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rootsrunner
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posted Oct-11-2007 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rootsrunner   Click Here to Email rootsrunner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steamtown Marathon
Scranton, PA
October 7, 2007

Executive summary:

Steamtown was steamy, but nothing like Chicago or Twin Cities. 62F (90% humidity) at the start and 75F at the 3 hour mark.

A well organized mid-size race. Very similar in course and feel to Boston. A countryside point-to-point course with many town residents out to hand out water bottles and cheer from their front yards. The downhill course is scary fast and if not careful the race can get away from you in a hurry. It's easy to see that the Scranton area residents take pride in the event with ample course and crowd support.

Goal one: 3:03
Goal two: 3:08 (PR)
Goal three: To finish with a smile and learn something. No matter the outcome, try not to be a self-absorbed grumpy-grump.

Results: 3:16:27 (135 of 1582 finishers)
1st half: 1:31:40
2nd half: 1:44:47

Training: After the Mohican 100 in June, I joined my local marathon training group for a 16 week program designed for this race. The plan was an adaptation of a Daniels Marathon Plan A with one quality mid-week workout a weekend long run. Averaged 49 mpw running and 45 mpw cycling for the 14 weeks leading up the race. Early season, my VDOT measured 52. Raced infrequently this summer, but the one 10 mile race (6 weeks ago) gave me the confidence to increase my quality training to VDOT 54. In the last phase of training, the emphasis were long tempo sessions using “cruise intervals.” Ran the weekly 40-50 minutes of tempo consistently at 6:20-6:25 pace; the easy and long runs at 8:00-8:30.

This season was a bit light on mileage. Yet I stayed healthy and managed to hit all the quality workouts and long runs, each week, through the taper and into the final week. My confidence was high and everything seemed to fall into place this training cycle. I felt ready to run miles in the range of 6:50-7:05 for the race. The downhill course provided an additional mental boost.

The story of my marathon, however, was the fever and cold that crept up on me with less than 72 hours to the race. On Friday, I developed a scratchy throat that turned to a fever on Saturday. I would never shake the cold. I spent Saturday worrying about it, hydrating and eating the best I could. The ailment took me out of my game plan, as I had no appetite on race morning and I failed to have a bowel movement before the race start. Of course, I started the race. I told myself to run 10 miles and see how it goes.

The race:
The Steamtown race experience reminded of a small version of the Boston marathon with a shuttle to the start and the wait at the high school. We got to the start with plenty of time to use the restroom, stretch, and check-in a bag before the 8am start. My cold and fever took away my pre-race game face and all I was concerned with was hydrating and trying for BM. No luck.

The race started next to the high school in Forest City, PA heading north-to-south towards Scranton. Although the course is generally downhill for the first 16 miles, the most significant elevation loss comes within the first six miles. I started off with my general marathon plan to go easy in the first two miles similarly to a weekend long run. My idea is if I jog the first two miles that I effectively turn my 26 mile marathon into a 24 mile marathon.

After goodbyes to my buds, I line up in the first third of the field and away we go into the foggy air. I remained optimistic that temps in the 60s would have minimal effect, but the lack of wind took its toll immediately. It took only a mile to become drenched in sweat. Normally, an easy first mile is 7:45-8:00 but Steamtown's initial mile offers 150’ loss by the three-quarter and I arrive at easily at M1 (7:10). I still have my reservations about my day but my goal at this point is to just get to mile 5 and go from there.

While I’ve placed high expectations for myself in this race, this is the first time I’ve raced the marathon as already qualified for the Boston Marathon. I felt less pressure than normal and with my condition I briefly entertained the DNF. Why not, I thought? After all, Columbus is two weeks away.

I settle in and hit M2 (7:14) and notice that I’m already drenched. I’m pleased the miles are coming easy, staying a bit above goal pace, and after M3 (7:16) we leave the township and head along a scenic country road. Looking ahead I couldn’t believe my eyes – at least several hundred runners lie ahead. Even though I held back, I expected to be closer to the front. The course sucked in anyone who wanted to run fast. Sheesh. I thought I was going fast!

Well aware that next mile offers the steepest pitch on the course, I loosened-up and was not surprised when I arrive at M4 (6:33). That’s just the beginning. The course continues on a steady decent, losing another 200’ in the next two miles. I take the first S-cap at 30 minutes and arrive at M5 (6:46) exactly at 35:00 flat and perfectly on pace. Not bad, I thought to myself.

In hindsight and with knowledge of the humidity, I should have backed off the goal pace by 5-10 seconds. But not knowing the course I had no clue how it was to unfold so I just went with it M6 (6:52) continuing on and telling myself to now make it to 10 miles and evaluate from there. I was somewhat shocked that I was steadily passing runners up to this point, but it was a steady flow.

M7 (7:06) approaches the township of Carbondale as we cruise along the main thoroughfare which continues one for a good long stretch with some more downhill before arriving at M8 (6:53). To our benefit, the locals seemed to embrace this race as there were many “unofficial” water stops; residents in front of their homes with a table handing out water bottles. On this day I took advantage of all the liquids I could. Chilled water felt like heaven.

Before M9 (6:58 ), I caught up to a woman wearing a bandana around her neck and asked the casual question, “run ultras?” She replied and we struck up a conversation. Hearing she ran Hellgate 100k, I asked her her goal. She said sub-3 but has backed off due to the heat. M10 (6:53) came quickly, passing in 1:09:41 and I was feeling great and thought I could possibly do something on this day. Oh, how easily the competitive mind blocks out negative thoughts. In this case, the hot and humid weather.

Hungry a little sooner than normal, I take the first of three gels at 75 minutes.

Kerry, the speedy ultrarunner from Connecticut, and I traded miles M11 (7:04) and M12 (7:06) before eventually just running and working together. We took turns leading and the random conversation, including her husband's aspiration to do the Grand Slam of Ultrarunning, passed the time. The course flattened out through the town of Archbald M13 (7:05) before hitting the half in 1:31:40. Pace was perfect sevens and I couldn’t complain, considering the humid day. Before the race my guess was that this course was 2-3 minutes slower in the second half. My dreams of a PR began to materialize.

I took S-cap number two at 90 minutes and continued the mission for max hydration, taking fluid at each chance. At M14 (7:00) the pace wasn’t slowing, but I felt the heat and the effort rising. I tried to ignore my temperature but each time I poured water on my head I could feel it turn warm right away. Not good.

Right before M15 (6:56) we turn off the road and on to a dirt towpath style trail along a scenic river. Kerry was immediately turned on by the dirt trail and she led the next mile (still downhill) M16 (6:52) as this race was shaping up great for her. She was feeding off the female competition and ready to reel them in. I pleaded for some patience, surprisingly she heeded, yet still our pace easily picked off runners ahead.

Gel number two at 120 minutes.

We continued working together as we left the dirt trail near M17 (6:57). At this point came my “where’s the porto-john” moment and knew I had to stop. No john in sight as I ran on gingerly. Kerry was ready to roll, looking back not ready to leave me, and I told her to go on. I survive the next 5 minutes until entering the park passing M18 (7:11) and finally a pit stop. During the stop I simultaneously shivered and overheated. Reality hit me and I knew my day was somewhat done. Details being details, 2+ hours of humid running and toilet paper don’t go well together. The deed takes a little over two minutes and after the restart I continued to push ahead arriving M19 (9:46) entertaining a good finish but with much less spirit. Arriving M20 (7:36) in 2hrs 23min+, I still had thoughts of a 45 minute final 10km and a possible PR. But in my heart I knew that this was not to be my day. I know what “good” feels like at mile twenty, and this wasn’t it.

It helped to have a similar race experience. Athens ’05 was a similarly hot day where I backed off after 18 miles, finishing intact and returning to race three weeks later.

I trudged on, passing the lonely miles M21 (7:43) and took S-cap number three at 2.5 hours into the race. By M22 (7:49) I was no longer passing others and simply holding on to some semblance of a pace. While I was definitely jogging at this point and not running, I did notice a higher than normal amount of walking dead in this race. I guess the cause was one of two reasons: 1) downhill pounding, or 2) the faster-than-normal pace depleted runners' glycogen stores more quickly.

My moment came again. The next porto-john could not come soon enough and this time I was in no rush to do my duty. My head was spinning and I just tried to compose myself. I cleaned myself off, laughed, and started walking on. With the chance to break 3:10 slipping away I thought to wait for one of my training buddies and just before M23 (12:28 ), I turn around and see Mark about 100 meters behind. I wave and wait for him until I realize that he's running well and could likely blow on past me. I run on.

We both know that three hills loom in the final three miles of the race. Mark chases me up the first one and catches me with about 2.5 to go. He’s laboring, but still gamely. My fleeting energy returned to become pacer for a friend. In my head, I’m thinking we can still break 3:20 when Mark utters, “I can still PR.” (Which is 3:15.) I didn’t argue with him and kept pushing.

By this point we’ve arrived in the city of Scranton and crowds became more frequent and louder. The nastiest of the three hills came next, a 100’ ascent to M24 (8:25), which Mark and I ran evenly throughout. I expected worse. The reward was a downhill M25 (7:34) that kick started our drive to the finish. The final turn comes and the last 3/4 mile is a straight shot to the finish line. The small final hill lied between us and the finish. I drag Mark along to finish M26 (7:43 + 1:29). If not for my friend, I’d likely finished minutes later.

What a run. Mark ran well and missed his PR by 1 minute. Kerry finished in 3:04 and 6th overall woman. One other training partner missed a PR by 2 minutes. It's frustrating that we can only imagine and never know our outcome under better conditions.

I gave it a go, but the story of the day was the humidity and the fast course. I consumed only half of my normal pre-race breakfast, so I imagine that I was not topped off prior to the start. Since I slowed down in the race, I don't exactly how well my glycogen stores worked. Nutrition-wise, I stuck the plan that has worked for me: Within-race, I avoid gatorade and consume water only.

Nutrition
Carried: 4 gels, 5 S!caps, a few cough drops
Consumed: 3 gels, 3 caps, 1 otter pop, and water only. It’s normal for me to pass on the gatorade.

If marathoning was only about the training and running, we'd all have fabulous race results, every time. Unfortunately, it isn't. Part of the allure of the sport is the unpredictability of the conditions and the on-the-fly decisions that are needed within the race. We’ll never know in advance how the body will react to the stress of marathon pace under the conditions of the day.

I am remiss not to mention that I recently launched a fundraising project for the Fisher House Foundation. Please visit my Firstgiving site to learn more about me and my endeavor to raise funds for an organization that help families of injured servicemen and women. Thanks to all that contributed -- I'm off to a great start toward my goal.

As I write this on Wednesday, I have 30 cycling miles and an easy 5 mile run under my belt since the race. The fever is gone and I feel better. I avoided a complete thrashing of the legs and I imagine that a marathon re-run is on the horizon in the next 3-4 weeks.

[This message has been edited by rootsrunner (edited Oct-11-2007).]

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crunningman
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posted Oct-11-2007 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crunningman   Click Here to Email crunningman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great recap Lloyd! I enjoyed it. You really had some nice splits going there, but we both know that can be short lived if something goes wrong.

There is no doubt in my mind that you will pull off a 3:00 hour race in the near future. Your training and race progression over the last few years dictates it for sure. I know you will work to put it together. Don't give up on reaching that goal.

The best to you! Craig
Besides a little recovery, what is next for you?

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zoomharp
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posted Oct-11-2007 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zoomharp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for a great RR. I was particularly interested in hearing about how the health issues affected you, and how you were able to run in spite of having a bug. I've always wondered what I would do in that situation. It was also gratifying to hear your philosophical take on race preparation and the whims of fate -- I used to run marathons much closer together (and much slower!) and now that I take so much more time to prepare it can be hard to accept that I may get a reward at the end, or not. Enjoy your recovery. zh

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loopy
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posted Oct-11-2007 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for loopy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Roots, great job under tough circumstances. So sorry you had the double whammy of heat + illness on race day -- but as you said, it is the unpredictable stuff that keeps racing interesting...

Thanks for the detailed report -- Steamtown is definitely on my "to do list" so it was good to get all the inside info -- although I probably didn't need to know about the port-a-johns in quite so much detail!

Again, great job!

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PacerChris
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posted Oct-11-2007 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PacerChris   Click Here to Email PacerChris     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lloyd - nicely done, given the conditions. Sounds like Steamtown needs to be on my "Must Do" list - super fast, well organized, good fast field but not crowded. Did the downhills beat you up pretty bad during the race? I paced at St. George and the downhills were steep in places, but my legs felt fine during the race...the next day however was rough (made worse by my going out on the course for another 4 miles plus hiking that afternoon!) I've heard both sides - Steamtown is TOO downhill and your legs get shot early, and I've heard that it's perfect. My training buddies and I beat up our quads pretty good with some downhill repeats before Boston and I wasn't sore at all so maybe that would be the thing to do if I were shooting for a fast time @ Steamtown.

It is kind of nice to already have a BQ under your belt, isn't it? You can have a rip at a ridonkulous PR and if it doesn't happen, that's OK.

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bowulf
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posted Oct-11-2007 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bowulf   Click Here to Email bowulf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very nice race report - having race buddies doing the race with you that you can pace is very nice. Between the illness and the GI distress, you still had a good race. It did great.

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MrPHinNJ
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posted Oct-11-2007 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrPHinNJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's see. Warm day, illness, two bathroom breaks, and still only 8 minutes off of your PR. I would think that goal three was achieved, in that you learned something -- a PR is inevitable. Nice running.

I was there and have to agree, this is a nice race. Well organized, just the right number of runners, and plenty of crowd support. The colorful emails from the race director were pretty good, too.

Good luck in getting that PR.

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rootsrunner
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posted Oct-12-2007 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rootsrunner   Click Here to Email rootsrunner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by crunningman:
Great recap Lloyd! I enjoyed it. You really had some nice splits going there, but we both know that can be short lived if something goes wrong.

There is no doubt in my mind that you will pull off a 3:00 hour race in the near future. Your training and race progression over the last few years dictates it for sure. I know you will work to put it together. Don't give up on reaching that goal.

The best to you! Craig
Besides a little recovery, what is next for you?


Thanks Craig. Similar to two years ago, when I first met you at the Pig, I just signed up for a rematch in three weeks in Grand Rapids. No guarantees that I'll have similar success, but I'm going to give it a go. Otherwise, I'm going to be in California later this year and CIM is another choice.

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rootsrunner
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posted Oct-12-2007 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rootsrunner   Click Here to Email rootsrunner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MrPHinNJ, bowulf, zoomharp, loopy: Thanks!

quote:
Originally posted by PacerChris:
Lloyd - nicely done, given the conditions. Sounds like Steamtown needs to be on my "Must Do" list - super fast, well organized, good fast field but not crowded. Did the downhills beat you up pretty bad during the race? I paced at St. George and the downhills were steep in places, but my legs felt fine during the race...the next day however was rough (made worse by my going out on the course for another 4 miles plus hiking that afternoon!) I've heard both sides - Steamtown is TOO downhill and your legs get shot early, and I've heard that it's perfect. My training buddies and I beat up our quads pretty good with some downhill repeats before Boston and I wasn't sore at all so maybe that would be the thing to do if I were shooting for a fast time @ Steamtown.

It is kind of nice to already have a BQ under your belt, isn't it? You can have a rip at a ridonkulous PR and if it doesn't happen, that's OK.


Chris- Just imagine, though, if you raced St. George. I imagine you'd be a bit more sore than your pacer pace.

I think you'd do very well here. For all the reasons you say. Just enough competition to keep you engaged, small enough field that you line up (and sign up) at the last minute, and of course, a race course for you to redline it. I don't think the course is as drastic as St. George.

Thanks for following along. Perhaps I have to enter another race with PacerChris in the mix.

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danerunsalot
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posted Oct-12-2007 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for danerunsalot   Click Here to Email danerunsalot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lloyd,

So sorry I forgot you were going to be there! Way to go.

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crunningman
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posted Oct-12-2007 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crunningman   Click Here to Email crunningman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rootsrunner:
Thanks Craig. Similar to two years ago, when I first met you at the Pig, I just signed up for a rematch in three weeks in Grand Rapids. No guarantees that I'll have similar success, but I'm going to give it a go. Otherwise, I'm going to be in California later this year and CIM is another choice.

Good luck to you! I am considering Grand Rapids as well. Albeit as a training run.

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runninlaw
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posted Oct-12-2007 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for runninlaw     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congratulations! Sounds like the end was a bit tough, but you were still oh so close. You sound like you have a great attitude about it all too - I think that is one of the most important aspects of this game.

So you are thinking of doing another in 3-4 weeks - that is interesting. I have contemplated doing that, but am too concerned about injuries.

Recover well and thanks for the detailed race report!

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fenway75
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posted Oct-12-2007 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fenway75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for such a detailed report. It's very interesting to a beginner to marathoning like me. (Steamtown was my first- I ran 3:25:35 good for a BQ). What an awful time to get sick. That must be most everyones worst fear. You really battled through it.

You said:
"If marathoning was only about the training and running, we'd all have fabulous race results, every time. Unfortunately, it isn't. Part of the allure of the sport is the unpredictability of the conditions and the on-the-fly decisions that are needed within the race. We’ll never know in advance how the body will react to the stress of marathon pace under the conditions of the day".

That's a great quote. I made sure I enjoyed the training and journey to race day, and tried not to make the end result the only measurement of the experience.

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Johnny J
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posted Oct-13-2007 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny J     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great report! That's more than a perfect trifecta-- fever/chills/illness, humidity, heat, and GI distress. A quadfrecta?

That is so hard once you break rhythm (the porta-a-potty stop). That far into a race I don't know how anyone gets back into a good pace and rhythm. That is the big fear I have is having a "GI issue" during a marathon. I've had it on long runs and you cannot tough it out or run through it. And once I stop or slow down, that's it for me in a marathon.

Sounds like you had the fitness for a huge PR but several things conspired against you. You ran hard even after all the problems.

Nice work. Another marathon in 3-4 weeks? Wow! Now that is nuts. But I guess it goes along with the whole ultra thing, different breed I suppose.

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rootsrunner
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posted Oct-15-2007 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rootsrunner   Click Here to Email rootsrunner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fenway75:
Thanks for such a detailed report. It's very interesting to a beginner to marathoning like me. (Steamtown was my first- I ran 3:25:35 good for a BQ). What an awful time to get sick. That must be most everyones worst fear. You really battled through it.

You said:
"If marathoning was only about the training and running, we'd all have fabulous race results, every time. Unfortunately, it isn't. Part of the allure of the sport is the unpredictability of the conditions and the on-the-fly decisions that are needed within the race. We’ll never know in advance how the body will react to the stress of marathon pace under the conditions of the day".

That's a great quote. I made sure I enjoyed the training and journey to race day, and tried not to make the end result the only measurement of the experience.



Thank you.

The more I run these, the better I get at seeing a silver lining. Unfortunately, I've had a fair share of off-days to know.

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posted Oct-16-2007 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrailBitten   Click Here to Email TrailBitten     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lloyd, thanks for sharing your day with us. I am amazed by how you can step outside of the effort, time and time again. Your recall is incredible! Your time will come!

I will miss you at Erie Endurance. You kept my spirits up when my feet were calling it quits.

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bhearn
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posted Oct-16-2007 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bhearn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lloyd, great report. Looks like you ran a smart race, not getting sucked into a too-fast first half, and shutting it down when the situation called for it.

Sorry your immune system and the weather did not cooperate. Look at it this way: with either one not optimal, you were not going to have an optimal race anyway; from that perspective, maybe you were lucky the effects combined so that you backed off around 18, leaving you better positioned to try again soon.

Good luck at Grand Rapids.

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