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Who Dey
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 posted Aug-08-2007 01:18 PM
  
I've been trying to mix in a little faster paced running, my goal for the 11 mile run was to run 8 at a constant pace at MAF or below, 2 at a quicker pace, then 1 as cool down. Pace for the first 8 miles was about 10:28-10:30. HR was below MAF for only the first 2 miles, then over MAF the next 6 by 5-7 bpm. My MAF is 133. The 2 miles at faster pace were run at 8:24 and 8:20 pace. HR was 156 and 167. For the 20M run, I again tried to maintain a pace of 10:30. (A previous 20M I was able to run no problem at 10:15.) My HR was under MAF until mile 12 ... then it kept increasing to MAF+20 for the last two miles. On the previous 20M, I didn't hit MAF until mile 15 and only hit MAF+20 when I increase the pace from 10:15 to approx. 8:30. Maybe the heat is having more of an effect on me than I realized or accounted for. I never felt nauseous before on a run ... what can cause it? Heat alone ... lack of water ... lack of electrolytes ... lack of calories? I wish I had taken a gel with me for insurance. I think I'll do that next time and use it if I hit a rough patch.
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Who Dey
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posted Aug-08-2007 01:24 PM
I've been trying to mix in a little faster paced running, my goal for the 11 mile run was to run 8 at a constant pace at MAF or below, 2 at a quicker pace, then 1 as cool down. Pace for the first 8 miles was about 10:28-10:30. HR was below MAF for only the first 2 miles, then over MAF the next 6 by 5-7 bpm. My MAF is 133. The 2 miles at faster pace were run at 8:24 and 8:20 pace. HR was 156 and 167. For the 20M run, I again tried to maintain a pace of 10:30. (A previous 20M I was able to run no problem at 10:15.) My HR was under MAF until mile 12 ... then it kept increasing to MAF+20 for the last two miles. On the previous 20M, I didn't hit MAF until mile 15 and only hit MAF+20 when I increase the pace from 10:15 to approx. 8:30. Maybe the heat is having more of an effect on me than I realized or accounted for. I never felt nauseous before on a run ... what can cause it? Heat alone ... lack of water ... lack of electrolytes ... lack of calories? I wish I had taken a gel with me for insurance. I think I'll do that next time and use it if I hit a rough patch. Aharmer ... you and Docster are probably right ... I did sweat a lot more than usually during the 20M. The kind of run where your clothing, even shoes, get drenched. After a time, the thought of drinking was distasteful. Is that normal?
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Docster
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posted Aug-08-2007 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by aharmer:
docster,I had the same question regarding his HR during the run. If anybody is interested in a sweat rate calculator shoot me an email from my profile and I'll email it over. I've learned a lot about my sweat rates this summer and how different variables such as temp and humidity effect that rate. Depending on the intensity of the run, I sweat upwards of 75+oz per hour in those conditions and I don't consider myself a heavy sweater by any means. Drinking 20oz per hour in those conditions most likely puts you in a severe deficit, which is okay for runs of an hour or even two. Beyond that, depending on your actual sweat rate, you can easily surpass the 3% dehydration rate which is where many feel that your performance begins to suffer dramatically.
I'm with you, Adam. I'm just over 73 inches tall, and weigh about 189...so I know I'm a bit bigger than many runners, and will sweat more as a result. I don't consider myself a profuse sweater though. Even my 125 lb. wife drinks about 40 ounces an hour in hot weather, and definitely isn't drinking too much based on the weight loss test. I'll shoot you an email as I would be interested in your spread sheet.
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Docster
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posted Aug-08-2007 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by Who Dey:
I've been trying to mix in a little faster paced running, my goal for the 11 mile run was to run 8 at a constant pace at MAF or below, 2 at a quicker pace, then 1 as cool down. Pace for the first 8 miles was about 10:28-10:30. HR was below MAF for only the first 2 miles, then over MAF the next 6 by 5-7 bpm. My MAF is 133. The 2 miles at faster pace were run at 8:24 and 8:20 pace. HR was 156 and 167. For the 20M run, I again tried to maintain a pace of 10:30. (A previous 20M I was able to run no problem at 10:15.) My HR was under MAF until mile 12 ... then it kept increasing to MAF+20 for the last two miles. On the previous 20M, I didn't hit MAF until mile 15 and only hit MAF+20 when I increase the pace from 10:15 to approx. 8:30. Maybe the heat is having more of an effect on me than I realized or accounted for. I never felt nauseous before on a run ... what can cause it? Heat alone ... lack of water ... lack of electrolytes ... lack of calories? I wish I had taken a gel with me for insurance. I think I'll do that next time and use it if I hit a rough patch. Aharmer ... you and Docster are probably right ... I did sweat a lot more than usually during the 20M. The kind of run where your clothing, even shoes, get drenched. After a time, the thought of drinking was distasteful. Is that normal?
I drink way more than I feel like. Certainly, the "drink when thirsty" test is total bunk for me. I have to force myself to drink usually. I like tart/sour drinks in general, that's why I bring the gatorade (not bottled....powder mix) with me on most runs. It's not a lot, but I'll drink 4 ounces of it, and then follow that up with 4 ounces of water. Not all the time, but definitely on long runs on the weekend when I have more time to prep.  As for nausea, I think you'll get lots of different answers as to what can cause that. Luckily I haven't ever really had to battle that yet. Heat is definitely one of them though. The hotter it is, the more blood has to be diverted to the skin to help keep it cool, which means there is less blood to help with digestion. As for your last 20 miler....MAF +20 at the same pace is a pretty big jump given the same pace. I'm not sure it's completely unreasonable though....hard to say without more testing in regards to hydration, acclimatization, etc.
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leitnerj
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posted Aug-08-2007 08:16 PM
If I drank when thirsty in my 89 miles at the Vermont 100 last year,
I would be dead, unless I would have passed out at an opportune
moment. I went through 9 gallons of fluids in 89 miles/21 hrs.
Temps were mostly in the mid-80s, peaking out around 90.
I was 4 lbs down when all was said and done. I was drinking
way more than I wanted and I couldn't stand drinking, but I kept
it up. 9 gallons is around 70 lbs or so (my starting weight before
the race was 175). Fortunately, I didn't have any issues with
dehydration, hyponatremia, or anything similar. I know very well
that "drink when thirsty" doesn't work for me, particularly in really
hot weather.
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Nosy
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posted Aug-08-2007 10:15 PM
I've been trying this training for the last 5 weeks and have seen some progress in the last week. My standard route (about 10.5km I think) was taking me 65 mins at an avg HR of 155 prior to starting. Then it would take 90 mins at an avg HR of 128. This last week I've had 3 runs where it only took 80 mins but still at HR 128, and I've noticed now when I look at my monitor I can often speed up a bit instead of slowing down! Minor progress I know but if this trend continues I'll be very happy. Thanks for all the advice in this thread.Regarding hydration, since I switched to nose breathing just over a year ago I don't drink anywhere near as much as before, and I deal with the heat much better. Would be interesting to compare how much moisture is lost through sweating versus breathing.
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Who Dey
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posted Aug-09-2007 07:18 AM
Everyone ... thanks for the input regarding hydration. I think that was probably my problem. For the record, I know not to wait until thirsty to drink. I usually drink "x" number of sips per mile on a regular basis. In fact, I have been drinking more this summer than I have in the past. While I knew to not wait until thirsty to drink, I wasn't sure what to do when the thought of drinking was a big turnoff. Next time I'll make it a point to drink more in the days leading up to a big effort and more during the run itself. Thanks again!
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bluelake
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posted Aug-09-2007 07:33 AM
This heat and humidity is spanking my a$$. I've started running later in the evening, but it is still miserable. Heat index 105. It is all I can do to stay below MAF walking downhill in the shade. I hope I'm not losing ground. Will periods like this affect aerobic gains?------------------
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Docster
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posted Aug-09-2007 07:51 AM
Heat, heat, heat. Hottest day of the year for us. Heat index of 108 or something. (is anyone not over 100 in the States right now? ) Well, I couldn't run in the morning due to an early appointment. 12 miles scheduled. You see where this is going. I start my run at 6:15 p.m. with my wife. 4 miles at 11:16 pace. 124 AHR. Not bad considering how hot it was. MAF is 144. I ran the next 8 miles solo, and the splits went like this: 9:00/137
9:02/146
7:52/158
7:53/165
7:49/174
7:43/175
7:38/177
9:00/167 I ran 5 miles at "marathon pace intensity". Given the heat, I didn't actually try to run marathon pace. I was shooting for 7:50 to 7:55 miles, but well...it was getting late and I felt solid. One mile "cool down" if you could call it that. On the positive side, I felt like I could have maintained that pace for another 30 minutes without too much trouble. My goal marathon pace is 7:30. I believe I'm on target (assuming the race on Oct. 7th in the Twin Cities is 50 degrees cooler...) but sure wish we could get a few 60 degree days to really test out the HR and some marathon paced miles....
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Gregolowe
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posted Aug-09-2007 02:37 PM
Wanted to post another thing I've learned when MAFing. A week or two ago I posted that I noticed when nose breathing that my MAF corresponded to the place where I felt the need to switch to mouth breathing and that this was a reliable source of biofeedback I could use when I didn't have my HR monitor. I've since ditched the HR monitor on a few runs and run using that and I felt even more refreshed after my run. During the last week I've noticed something else. Right at the point where I cross over MAF, I can feel my heart pounding in my chest. I mean, I can feel it with the nerves in my chest. I suddenly become aware of my heart beating hard on the inside of my chest cavity. It's much like if I tell you to shift your attention to your butt on your chair. Suddenly you can feel the chair through your legs and bottom, using the nerves in that area. When my HR crosses MAF, I can feel my heart beating in my chest. I've noticed it before on the hills when my HR would jump above MAF. I would stop and breathe heavily through my nose trying to bring it back down and my heart would be thumping along quickly. At MAF, I would suddenly be unable to feel it anymore. If I go over MAF again, there it is, thumpin away. Interesting. So now I have two sources of biofeedback for noticing where my MAF is. I also noticed that at a HR of 130, my breathing returns to completely normal and running seems effortless. 131-141 has an increasning sense of labor as I approach my MAF of 142. At 142, I suddenly feel the need to breath through my mouth and usually do a large exhalation through my nose, my system trying to keep up with the mounting CO2 levels. When that happens I'll walk. With practice, I'm finding I can almost pinpoint my HR just by feel pretty accurately. I think my new goal is to be able to run at 130 bpm for as long as possible. I still have to walk to keep HR below MAF of 142 now. For what it's worth.
Edit: I wanted to add that I can also hear my heartbeat in my ears when it's above MAF. I think I hear the blood rushing/pumping in my carotid's but I can definitley hear it. As it crosses over to below MAF, it goes away.So I guess I have three sources of biofeedback. I like the nose breathing one best because it allows me to stop, slow down BEFORE I cross over MAF. This is so much fun. I'm really tuning in to my body. Mittleman is right though. At the lower end of my 131-141, I don't even notice myself. I'm preoccupied with the beauty around me. As my HR creeps up, my attention more and more turns inward and to the effort of the task at hand. 130 bpm is so pleasureable. I would love to run faster at that rate and just cruise there. I wonder how fast I can get at that rate? I would be happy with an 8-9 minute mile ther, VERY happy. I feel like I could run forever at that pace. [This message has been edited by Gregolowe (edited Aug-09-2007).]
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jjwaverly42
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posted Aug-10-2007 02:01 PM
Greg,It looks like you are on the path to full body consciousness. When you become aware of the hammer to the anvil to the stirrup cascading vibratory cochlear overload when exceeding MAF, you will be half way there. When I exceed MAF, I also noticed my intestinal villi start to behave like arachnoid villi and my bowels start to have a mind of their own. Keep going until you can reverse your peristalsis and be able to entertain your running/beer drinking friends with the "reverse cheeky chug"! --Jimmy @@@@
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leitnerj
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posted Aug-10-2007 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by bluelake:
This heat and humidity is spanking my a$$. I've started running later in the evening, but it is still miserable. Heat index 105. It is all I can do to stay below MAF walking downhill in the shade. I hope I'm not losing ground. Will periods like this affect aerobic gains?
It won't affect aerobic gains, but if you're only going really slowly
all the time for a long period of time, it may hurt your run economy. If you have the option, squeeze in a treadmill run
or two each week to get some faster turnover stuff.
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catwoman73
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posted Aug-12-2007 09:54 PM
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Originally posted by bluelake:
This heat and humidity is spanking my a$$. I've started running later in the evening, but it is still miserable. Heat index 105. It is all I can do to stay below MAF walking downhill in the shade. I hope I'm not losing ground. Will periods like this affect aerobic gains?
I can relate, blue! Did 5.5 miles this morning, in the time that it once took me to run 8 miles. I must have walked at least one third of the whole distance, and I wanted to pitch my HRM and its annoying little alarm out the window! I was really frustrated and pi$$ed off. I have similar concerns about losing my aerobic gains. The weather is supposed to be a little more moderate around here for the next couple of days, and I'd like to do a MAF test to see if I've made any progress, but I'm almost afraid to. I've been under a lot of stress lately, and I'm terrified I might find that my splits are worse than they were a month ago. Even if I could entirely blame the weather, it would still be a huge disappointment to me psychologically. I kinda need some good news right now! Anyway- hang in there, blue! Fall is fast approaching! Pam ------------------
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dfcameron
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posted Aug-12-2007 10:29 PM
OK... just got back from a week in Utah - and had a great time. Learned a bit more about running; despite my 29 years of it - I'm always learning something new. I'll pass along what's relevant based on the threads... realizing that I'm just a sample of one.First, for those struggling in the heat and humidity; everyone acclimates/adjusts differently. I have friends who can maintain a similar pace at a given heart rate up to 90 degrees with no problem. Me? I run 8:45 min/mi pace at MAF in 70 degrees; and 10:00 min/mi pace at MAF in 90 degrees - when out for an hour or so. I get the same aerobic benefit, but do need to do some leg speed work. Second, I live at 750' above sea level. When I got to Utah, I stayed at 6500'. On day 2, I ran 11:42 min/mi pace at an average heart rate of 123 (MAF for me is 144 or 145, which I hit several times on uphills, but was closer to 100 on the downhills). On day 8 (last day) I ran 9:39 min/mi pace at an average heart rate of 115 - and it felt very easy. I figure the altitude acclimation was kicking in. Third, for one of the days in Utah, I ran 13 miles at between 9100' and 10,100' above sea level... it was a similar effort to keep at MAF as running in 90 degree weather with 80% humidity. Fourth, I too can usually tell when I exceed MAF. My body will often "tell me". I've been building an aerobic base for the past 10 weeks (since my last big race) - nearly all runs below MAF - only about 5% above. Yet... in extreme heat (or altitude), my internal compass is thrown a bit, and I can't tell as easily. For those going on feel, you might want to be careful here. Finally, I believe once a deep aerobic base is established, doing mile intervals or something once/week at the anaerobic threshold or a little slower will add speed w/o detriment to the base - but not until the base is built! Hopefully this'll work for my next goal....
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dfcameron
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posted Aug-12-2007 10:38 PM
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Originally posted by Docster:
Heat, heat, heat. Hottest day of the year for us. Heat index of 108 or something. (is anyone not over 100 in the States right now? ) Well, I couldn't run in the morning due to an early appointment. 12 miles scheduled. You see where this is going. I start my run at 6:15 p.m. with my wife. 4 miles at 11:16 pace. 124 AHR. Not bad considering how hot it was. MAF is 144. I ran the next 8 miles solo, and the splits went like this: 9:00/137
9:02/146
7:52/158
7:53/165
7:49/174
7:43/175
7:38/177
9:00/167 I ran 5 miles at "marathon pace intensity". Given the heat, I didn't actually try to run marathon pace. I was shooting for 7:50 to 7:55 miles, but well...it was getting late and I felt solid. One mile "cool down" if you could call it that. On the positive side, I felt like I could have maintained that pace for another 30 minutes without too much trouble. My goal marathon pace is 7:30. I believe I'm on target (assuming the race on Oct. 7th in the Twin Cities is 50 degrees cooler...) but sure wish we could get a few 60 degree days to really test out the HR and some marathon paced miles....
Docster - good observations. Never despair though. My goal is sub 3:30 in Detroit on Oct 21. I've been running 10:00 min/mi pace at MAF or a little below of late in the 90 degree weather. I went to Utah for a week (see above post). By the 8th day, despite being at 6500', I ran a 7 mile run on the last day at 9:39 min/mi pace at an average HR of 29 beats below MAF. My point is that the heat and humidity takes a lot more strain on the body; and for me (at least) once that's gone - my speed/MAF threshold comes back quickly.
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dfcameron
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posted Aug-12-2007 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by Nosy:
I've been trying this training for the last 5 weeks and have seen some progress in the last week. My standard route (about 10.5km I think) was taking me 65 mins at an avg HR of 155 prior to starting. Then it would take 90 mins at an avg HR of 128. This last week I've had 3 runs where it only took 80 mins but still at HR 128, and I've noticed now when I look at my monitor I can often speed up a bit instead of slowing down! Minor progress I know but if this trend continues I'll be very happy. Thanks for all the advice in this thread.Regarding hydration, since I switched to nose breathing just over a year ago I don't drink anywhere near as much as before, and I deal with the heat much better. Would be interesting to compare how much moisture is lost through sweating versus breathing.
10 minutes faster on a base of 90 minutes? Sounds like more than "minor progress". I'd take this as a great sign that your approach is working great and to stick with it!
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dfcameron
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posted Aug-12-2007 10:44 PM
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Originally posted by Gregolowe:
I'm really tuning in to my body. Mittleman is right though. At the lower end of my 131-141, I don't even notice myself. I'm preoccupied with the beauty around me. As my HR creeps up, my attention more and more turns inward and to the effort of the task at hand. 130 bpm is so pleasureable. I would love to run faster at that rate and just cruise there. I wonder how fast I can get at that rate? I would be happy with an 8-9 minute mile ther, VERY happy. I feel like I could run forever at that pace. [This message has been edited by Gregolowe (edited Aug-09-2007).]
Agreed.... I do most of my runs at an average heart rate of 130. (My MAF is probably 144 or 145) If I'm going for a deep aerobic base and building up mileage this is ideal, and I just enjoy what's going on. At 140-144 pace, I can go a long time, but I need to focus as well. So, I too agree with Mittleman. One thing I've found, in years of doing this, is that at least for me (sample of one) that I make faster progress running at 140-144 than at 130 - its just not quite as fun.
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Gregolowe
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posted Aug-13-2007 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by dfcameron:
Agreed.... I do most of my runs at an average heart rate of 130. (My MAF is probably 144 or 145) If I'm going for a deep aerobic base and building up mileage this is ideal, and I just enjoy what's going on. At 140-144 pace, I can go a long time, but I need to focus as well. So, I too agree with Mittleman. One thing I've found, in years of doing this, is that at least for me (sample of one) that I make faster progress running at 140-144 than at 130 - its just not quite as fun.
That's good to know. I was wondering if I would make better progress staying at 130 if I was able to as opposed to running at the higher end of the range. I know that Jesse and others here shoot to stay MAF-10. For me that's 132. I just can't do that now and be able to run at all. So I run and let it go up to 139 or so till I walk. My HR then keeps going up to about 141 or 142 before turning around and coming back down at which point I let it fall to 135 or so till I start running again. It'll continue down to 130 or so then turn back upwards again. This is how I run all of my runs now. My MAF tests are different though as I do them on a treadmill and just slow the pace to keep my HR at the right spot while I keep running.
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DavidD
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posted Aug-13-2007 12:16 PM
I like running at or just below my MAF. Having done this training for many years, I'm able to run right at MAF most of the time. Sometimes my mind wanders which usually slows me down just a bit. I also do some hilly courses at time because I enjoy the rapid leg turnover on the downhills without going over MAF.The big question is, what do you want? If it's more aerobic speed, then you need to train closer to MAF. If it's just getting heatlhy and enjoying the runs (and not being competitive), go at the most fun pace (at or below MAF).
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Gregolowe
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posted Aug-13-2007 04:37 PM
I want to build my aerobic base currently to be better able to run ultras. I then plan on throwing in hill work and weights to build more power and speed. We'll see where that takes me as far as placeings go. If I'm in the top 20% or so, then I'll try and be competetive. Right now though, it's just so much fun to run at the lower heart rates. My overall goal is fitness but I'm really just enjoying myself running slowly.
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catwoman73
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posted Aug-14-2007 08:17 AM
I just finished my second MAF test, and could really use some help figuring out if I actually improved or not. My first one was done prior to starting low HR training, and I have been faithfully staying below MAF for the last month. Both tests were done on the same outdoor track, with the same warm-up. My times are significantly better, but I'm wondering if the improvement was simply because of the great weather conditions this morning. Here's the data:MAF test #1- July 17
Temp: 63
Dew Point: 55
Rel. Humidity: 69%
Winds: Calm Mile 1: 9:38
Mile 2: 10:01
Mile 3: 10:15
Mile 4: 10:32
Mile 5: 10:59 MAF Test #2- Aug. 14
Temp: 52
Dew Point: 48
Rel. Humidity: 87%
Winds: N 2.5MPH Mile 1: 9:26
Mile 2: 9:43
Mile 3: 9:51
Mile 4: 9:53
Mile 5: 10:02 So, what do you think? A couple of questions: If the improvement looks like it probably is weather related, WHAT GIVES?!?! I have been faithfully staying at or under MAF, my diet is good and I stay well hydrated. And what do I do next? If it looks like there's been some real, legitimate improvement, I think I'll ditch my race plans for the fall, and keep this up for a while. I was planning a couple of HMs for the fall, but my real goal races are next spring, so I really want to optimize my conditioning for those races. I feel great, my mileage has been slowly but steadily increasing, and all my little aches and pains are disappearing. My energy level is better as well. Thank you, everyone, for all your advice. I really appreciate all the great information on this thread. You've all been a huge inspiration to me! Pam ------------------
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aharmer
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posted Aug-14-2007 09:33 AM
Hi Pam,The improvement is definitely due to improved aerobic fitness. The first test was warmer, but not to the point where it starts to make a dramatic impact on your HR. 7-8F makes a big difference when you're up in the high temps, but not when the two temps are in the "normal" range. It was also more humid for your second test, which I've found to impact HR as much as temps. If I had to guess without knowing your history I'd bet you've been able to run more mileage than ever before this last month. I bet you've improved your fitness and your economy has improved. The pace improvement is due to the hard work and discipline you've put in over the last month, keep it up! ------------------
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gregw
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posted Aug-14-2007 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by catwoman73:
So, what do you think? A couple of questions: If the improvement looks like it probably is weather related, WHAT GIVES?!?! I have been faithfully staying at or under MAF, my diet is good and I stay well hydrated. And what do I do next?If it looks like there's been some real, legitimate improvement, I think I'll ditch my race plans for the fall, and keep this up for a while. I was planning a couple of HMs for the fall, but my real goal races are next spring, so I really want to optimize my conditioning for those races. I feel great, my mileage has been slowly but steadily increasing, and all my little aches and pains are disappearing. My energy level is better as well. Thank you, everyone, for all your advice. I really appreciate all the great information on this thread. You've all been a huge inspiration to me! Pam
You're definitely improving. You improved the last mile by over 10%. That's too much for going from 60 to 50 degrees to account for. In fact, calculators like this one don't even make an adjustment for 60 degrees or less. Doing a couple of half marathons isn't going to hurt your conditioning (my opinion) if you want to do them. They might even help.
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aharmer
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posted Aug-14-2007 10:00 AM
I agree with Greg. What hurts people is when they try low HR training for a couple months and then think it's "over", and go back to running every day at marathon pace or faster. The low HR stuff should always be a majority of your training (my opinion only). If this is the case, mixing in small segments of faster work or an occasional race shouldn't hurt your aerobic base. With that said, I still believe that initially people benefit greatly from an extended period at low HR only.------------------
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catwoman73
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posted Aug-14-2007 02:36 PM
Thanks, guys. I appreciate the quick reply. And I am THRILLED that this seems to be real progress. I was cautiously optomistic, but its nice to hear from people who actually know what they are talking about!!! I am still a newbie runner- only running one year now. I did my first HM in May. During my training, my HR averaged 152ish for all of my runs, with it peaking at >170 towards the end. I did this day in, day out. I was always sore, and felt like I was on the edge of being injured all the time. And the actual race nearly killed me! I distinctly remember thinking as I crossed the finish line, "I'll never be able to finish a marathon!" Well, I'm changing my tune now that I've started Mafing. I have surpassed my previous peak weekly mileage without any problems at all. I am planning a 30k race in March, followed by (hopefully) a marathon in May. I'm sure that I can do it now! Having said that, while it may not hurt me to do my HMs this fall, I think I'm still going to pass on them. I take my health very seriously, and I think, given how good I've been feeling, the smartest thing for me to do is stick with low HR training for at least the rest of the year. And I'd really like to see what I'm capable of with a long basebuilding period! Thanks for all the advice, everyone! ------------------
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