posted Jan-09-2007 07:19 AM               

Anyone, of course, is welcome to use it or submit races. These are the criteria:

1. CERTIFIED - This is a must. Please submit only races that you KNOW are certified. All-comers on track are okay.
2. FAST - No major hills, poor footing, or otherwise slow courses. Flat is preferred, but gently rolling or small hill is okay as long as the course has a reputation for being fast.

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STATE - CITY - DATE - RACE NAME - CONTACT INFO
CA Kentfield - May 28 - Marin Memorial Day 10k - at College of Marin - PAUSATF Series race
CA Sonoma - Jun 03 - Hit The Road Jack - http://www.hittheroadjack.org/
CA Pleasanton - Jun 17 - Rotary Sprit 10k - www.onyourmarkevents.com
CA San Francisco - Jun 17 - Presidio Relay - http://www.presidiorelay.com/
CA Palo Alto - Jun 30 - Masters Championships (Track) - http://www.pausatf.org/data/2007/mtfchamps07.html
CA San Francisco - Sep 16 - Banana Chase 5k/10k - http://upcoming.org/event/123839/
CA Paso Robels - Sep 23 - Heritage Oaks Bank - http://www.hobfunrun.com/race10kmasters.asp
GA Atlanta - Jul 04 - Peachtree - http://www.atlantatrackclub.org/at02000.htm
IA Ames - Jul 07 - Midnight Madness - http://www.iowagames.org/SummerGames/RoadRace.aspx
ME Portland - Aug 04 - Beach to Beacon - http://www.beach2beacon.org/beachtobeacon/index.html
MI Ann Arbor - Jun 03 - Ann Arbor Run - also has half marathon and 5k
NC Raleigh - Nov 11 - Old Reliable Run - http://www.unitedwaytriangle.org/run/race_info.asp
UT Salt Lake City - Jul 24 - Deseret News 10K - http://deseretnews.com/run/
WI Green Bay - Jun 09 - Bellin Run - http://www.bellinrun.com/ (2006 site all I could find)
WI Menasha - Aug 11 - Otto Grunski Runski - http://www.cityofmenasha-wi.gov/content/departments/parks_&_recreation/(2)recreation_programs/(20)otto_grunski_runski.php

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posted Jan-09-2007 08:57 AM            

If a flat and fast 10K is what you want and you're in CT on this day, then do the Simsbury River Run. I ran it last year and it's pretty darn flat and fast. (oh, and it's certified, of course-for a real PR it's a must)
April 30th, 2007--Simsbury River Run - 5K/10K - Noon - Simsbury - (860) 241-8646

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posted Jan-09-2007 09:37 AM               

http://www.rodescityrun.com/

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posted Jan-10-2007 07:45 AM               

NY Kingston - April 29 - Kingston Classic 10K - http://www.kingstonclassic.com/index.htm

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posted Jan-12-2007 12:29 AM            

Downhill, frequently downwind as well with the early morning winds out of the canyon. Haven't run it, but I hear lots of PR's run on that course.

Here's an example:

Results of 10k Olympic Trials 2004 Teren Jamison: 29:26
One week later Des. News 10k: Teren Jamison: 27:48 (there was a tailwind that year).

But you can see, it can be a very fast course even for the very fastest runners. Only downside is the altitude (around 4800' I think).

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posted Jan-12-2007 08:43 AM               

I think that's the 2006 date. I couldn't find anything for 2007. The 24th for this year would be on a Tuesday. Maybe they will update their site when the race gets closer. I know that there are several around here that you usually can't find anything on early in year, but they start posting stuff later on.

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posted Jan-12-2007 11:24 AM            

A close cousin in the Bellin 6/9/2007 in Green Bay WI (8,000-10,000 participants) Not completely flat, but very few turns and it makes up for itself with good competition.
http://www.bellinrun.com/

I ran in 2005
John Korir 28:51 Won against
Paul Koech 29:13
Vanderlei Lima 29:22

Male Winners
1977 Frank Shorter 30:32
1978 Bill Rodgers 29:38
1979 Garry Bjorklund 29:25
1980 Dan Buntman 31:15
1981 Kyle Heffner 30:00
1982 Tony Sandoval 29:35
1983 Dan Buntman 29:19
1984 Simeon Kigen 28:45
1985 Mark Anderson 29:28
1986 Mark Anderson 29:15
1987 Keith Hanson 29:39
1988 Bruce Bickford 28:36
1989 Max Harn 29:27
1990 Keith Hanson 29:33
1991 Ed Eyestone 29:24
1992 Ed Eyestone 29:12
1993 Ed Eyestone 29:49
1994 Ed Eyestone 29:11
1995 Ed Eyestone 29:03
1996 Dan Held 29:46
1997 Joseph Kimani 27:46
1998 Joseph Kimani 28:34
1999 Joseph Kimani 28:22
2000 Joseph Kimani 28:23
2001 James Koskei 28:01
2002 James Koskei 28:24
2003 Albert Chepkurui 28:56
2004 James Koskei 29:12
2005 John Korir 28:51
2006 John Korir 29:01

Here are past females winners
1977 Kim Merritt 34:44
1978 Kim Merritt 35:22
1979 Kim Merritt 35:30
1980 Patti Catalano 33:34
1981 Marybeth Spencer 35:27
1982 Anne Audain 32:47
1983 Anne Audain 33:02
1984 Kim Merritt 35:04
1985 Rosa Mota 33:04
1986 Joan Samuelson 31:59
1987 Lisa Weidenbach 34:28
1988 Joan Samuelson 33:15
1989 Lisa Weidenbach 32:35
1990 Lisa Weidenbach 32:59
1991 Joan Samuelson 33:22
1992 Joan Samuelson 33:37
1993 Cassie McWilliam 33:17
1994 Cathy O'Brien 33:21
1995 Uta Pippig 33:14
1996 Jenny Crain 34:29
1997 Elana Meyer 32:22
1998 Sally Barsosio 32:53
1999 Tegla Loroupe 31:48
2000 Elana Meyer 32:33
2001 Elana Meyer 32:31
2002 Elana Meyer 33:02
2003 Kathy Butler 32:47
2004 Elva Dryer 32:35
2005 Elva Dryer 33:32
2006 Kathy Butler 32:28

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posted Jan-12-2007 03:54 PM               

I just may run that race. I'm about 180 miles away. I'm running a 5K the week before. Shoot me an email: asgussow@aol.com

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posted Jan-12-2007 06:14 PM               

Quite a list of past winners for the Bellin Run. Wow...and to think I'd never heard of it until now.

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posted Jan-18-2007 05:56 PM               

http://www.usatf.org/events/courses/search/

I'd say the NYRR Race to Liberty can be pretty fast, since it's very flat with only a few turns. But it's very popular and can be pretty crowded.

The Newport 10,000 in Jersey City is probably the fastest certified 10K course in the NY metro area

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posted Jan-18-2007 09:50 PM               

What's my excuse for not breaking 40 min on it? This year might be the year!

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posted Jan-19-2007 07:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Jim24315:
Johnny

I think that's the 2006 date. I couldn't find anything for 2007. The 24th for this year would be on a Tuesday. Maybe they will update their site when the race gets closer. I know that there are several around here that you usually can't find anything on early in year, but they start posting stuff later on.

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Jim,

You're correct. They haven't posted this year's date yet. However, it is always on the 24th. July 24th is a holiday in Utah (Pioneer Day, celebrating the entrance of the Mormon Pioneers into Salt Lake Valley). Unless it falls on a Sunday in which case they usually celebrate it that Monday.

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posted Jan-20-2007 06:07 AM               

I put Deseret News on the list

James H

Thanks for link. That will take some study--it shows the courses but doesn't tell you if or when races will be held on those courses. I was able to find one clost to home though--will look at it some more later.

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posted Jan-20-2007 06:16 AM               

1. Should a solo on the track count? yes or no
2. How about with a pacer? yes or no

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posted Jan-22-2007 09:46 AM               

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Originally posted by Jim24315:
Sub-40 Poll:

1. Should a solo on the track count? yes or no
2. How about with a pacer? yes or no

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1. No. It has to be an official race.

2. Yes, if the pacer is properly registered for the race, and starts at the beginning (NOT like the relay system provided for Saint Lance).

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posted Jan-31-2007 09:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Tchuck:
I have run the Bellin for 15 straight years and live on the course and 1/2 mile from start and 1/4 mile from finish. Much of my running is done on the course. It's not a terribly hard course but a bit deceiving as first 2 miles are on a slight upgrade.

What's my excuse for not breaking 40 min on it? This year might be the year!

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I have the same problem. I can't do well on that course!!! Of course, my preference is an actually hills (my best Bellin is the year they added the extra one), rather than a steady uphill climb and I "like" turns. My goal is to win my age-group there. I think I had a good chance last year (I think the winning time was over 39:00), I just didn't think I was recovered from my marathon. I think the key is to take those first 2 miles quite easy, but it's difficult with that size at the start.

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posted Mar-20-2007 05:22 AM            

The date was changed and moved up one week to Sunday April 22nd. I know this is the correct date as I received the flyer via snail mail.

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Alas, I won't be running as I am on call that weekend at the hospital. Ironically, my call schedule was made so I could have the race weekend off...the next week.

I am still recovering from a quad tear. ~3 -4 weeks and counting. I have not really run since then so all race plans are in doubt.

Best to you all.
Dale

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posted Mar-20-2007 08:03 PM               

Sorry to hear that the quad tear is lingering. You will overcome it, though, I am sure, and many good years of racing are still ahead of you. All your contributions are greatly appreciated.

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posted May-20-2007 10:44 AM               

For any Californians or those who like to travel, I just added 2007 USATF Pacific Association Masters Outdoor Track & Field Championships.

They will be held on June 30 at 7 am in Palo Alto. A great opportunity for a fast 10k under same conditions that Olympics, World Cup and other big ones are run.

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posted May-21-2007 10:50 PM               

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Originally posted by norrin radd:
Thanks for the new CA suggestions. I can't make the first but the second is a possibility for me. That would make it three attempts in three weeks! But a 7am start? I'd love to run a race on a track though. Have you, or anyone, ever been to these championships before? Would it be embarrassing to be aiming for a sub-40 10k amidst a buch of track stars or is it a more eclectic mix. Some of the results from previous years make it look like it would be okay to compete. But a 7am start...

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You have to put aside your ego if you want to race on the track. I've had plenty of practice getting lapped over the years while running all-comers meets at Los Gatos. Usually there is a wide variety of ablities, though, and someone to try and match strides with. I tentatively plan on being there and sub-40 is looking like a long shot for me at this point.

Yes, 7 am is pretty earlier but better than noon under the sun. I'll confirm in later posts if I will be there. If you decide to run, let me know and we can chat a little before duking it out

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posted May-22-2007 01:42 AM            

Another possibility for your fast and certified 10k list is the June 17th Presidio relay at the San Francisco Presidio at the foot of the Golden Gate Bridge:
http://www.presidiorelay.com/
which features both 5k and 10k races as well as the various relays. I'd call the course fast, and it is certified.

This will be my first June attempt at a sub-40 10k.

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If you want to know how fast it is and was just look at these results.

1 1470 CHRIS SEATON M 25 RALEIGH NC 30:03 30:04 4:51
2 713 DEVIN SWANN M 24 RALEIGH NC 30:30 30:31 4:55
3 737 LEVENTE TIMAR M 26 RALEIGH NC 30:50 30:50 4:58
4 1375 MATT KERR M 28 WINSTON-SALEM NC 30:58 30:59 5:00
5 1399 BRIAN ST.ONGE M 27 RALEIGH NC 31:07 31:07 5:01
6 550 DAVID PATTERSON M 24 CARY NC 31:49 31:50 5:08
7 1478 PAUL JONES M 29 APEX NC 32:17 32:17 5:12
8 194 DEREK FENTON M 34 RALEIGH NC 32:20 32:21 5:13
9 259 CONRAD HALL M 33 DURHAM NC 33:25 33:26 5:23

http://www.runnc.com/Sites/7/results/orr10k.txt

Oh yea and the most incredible time! Remember this was the winner of the baby jogger division! He ran a 34:20 while pushing his 4 year old daughter!

1 1081 TRAVIS WALTER 34 APEX NC 34:20 5:32

I ran a 40:56 last year while pushing my 3 year old son in a stroller. That was a 2:00 minute PR for me. However, I finished second in the stroller division to a guy who was pushing 2 four year olds in a double jogger.

MALE BABYJOGGERS

Place Bib Name Ag City St Time Pace
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1 109 WILLIAM BURNS 37 CARY NC 40:50 6:35
2 1451 TRAVIS WILLS 30 CARY NC 40:56 6:36

http://www.active.com/results/viewresults_multiple.cfm?filename=1343368_20061121021822.txt

Old Reliable Fall - Fastest 10K in the area
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=525556

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