posted Sep-02-2006 10:40 AM            

UP THIS WEEKEND

Pocatello 9/2
Jtshad 2:45

Tupelo 9/3
Shadw ?
Kudzurunner 3:30

STILL TO COME

Adirondack Marathon 9/17

Dr Wu 3:45

Fox Cities 9/24
WI MTP 2:39

Quad Cities 9/24
kestrou 3:20

Akron 9/30
Joplus 3:10

Twin Cities 10/1
Baggio16 2:59
Bugs34 4:30

Loch Ness 10/1
PhilH 3:15

Portland 10/1
CliffD 3:30
pdxccs 3:45

St. George 10/7
Johnny J 2:50

Steamtown 10/8
AndyHass 2:22:00
Southern Man 3:15

Melbourne Marathon 10/8
TheSlowandtheFurious 3:05

Mohawk-Hudson 10/8
Runningag 3:19:59
Dr. Wu 3:34

Hartford 10/14
Jessika97128 4:00
jessicaeck 3:40
Yoginirunner 4:00
Twinmomrunner 4:00
Happycat1 3:20

Whistlestop 10/14
runinlaw 3:40

Columbus 10/15
phish44118 4:30
Sportigirl ???

Baystate 10/15
Skitzo 3:20
Dogberry 3:30

Long Beach 10/15
Pavman

Des Moines
Travis Hubbard 2:45

Chicago 10/22
JSM 2:28
MikeBro 3:15
Spkoest 3:20
Hubitron 3:00
Kestrou 3:20
92heelgrad 3:30
cbc673 2:50

Mystic Country 10/22
Beatfreq 3:20

Niagra Falls 10/22
Canuck Kid 3:59:59

Detroit 10/29
DHornbect 2:35
corland14 3:45
Fitz Dragonn ?
Rahara 3:40
jakey 3:15
jtv 3:15

Marine Corps 10/29
joeruns26 2:59
VeganPride 3:00
Lofcaudio 3:15
benlinkous 3:30

Dublin 10/30
Goo 3:30

Cognac (France) 11/4
Jojox 3:30

NYC 11/5
TD Runner 2:35
dcv2002 3:10
JamieT 3:20
Jpgarland 2:50
GreenMan 3:45

City of Trees 11/5
jtshad 2:45

Richmond 11/11
TonyJones237 3:20
NurseSarahB 5:00
A6Runner 3:30

OuterBanks 11/12
Jaysoffian 3:30
Swatkins 3:50

Philly 11/19
RTCRUNR 2:30
jdmom3 2:46
eager runner 3:10
Doctor Wu 3:29
Sistergoldenhair TBD

Atlanta 11/23
Robert Wildes <3:35

St. Jude Memphis 12/2
BNAGamecock 4:45

California International Marathon
GoDawgGo 3:00
S Agsten 3:05

Marathon of Palm Beaches 12/3
Nofret 3:30

Charlotte 12/9
Mainers 2:40
Bigdave10000 3:10

Vegas/Tucson 12/10
Jrescpa 3:20

Dallas White Rock 12/10
AML256 3:05

???
Noquickfix 3:25
Grizzly 3:30
Magritte 3:15

Southern Man

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posted Sep-03-2006 11:07 AM            

This week was a nice cut back week for me. I had a hard hills/speed session on Tuesday and a race on Saturday (10K), but the rest of my workouts were easy and relatively short. This morning I had a nice 14 miler (8:44). The quicker paces are starting to feel easier after all of this training and the fall temps are rolling in.

Weekly total: 37.65

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posted Sep-03-2006 11:52 AM            

1x4k + 3min Rest + 1x3.2k (all at T-pace, 6:41mpm) (2mi wu/cd).

43.0 Miles Total.

This week shooting for 60+. (Already ran 10.7 this AM, 19 miles tomorrow, plus my Tempo workout on Thurs of ~11.2 miles)

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posted Sep-03-2006 12:36 PM            

I've decided not to do the marathon due to overtraining & injury. You can take me off the list. Thanks.

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posted Sep-03-2006 01:38 PM               

looking forward to our first race reports.

another solid week of training for me

M- off (planned)
T- LT session- 2m w/u, 3 miles at 5.32 pace, 3 mins recovery, 1.5 miles at 5.35 pace, 90 seconds recovery, 1.5 miles at 5.30 pace
W- 5.5
T- 11.5
F- 6 am/4 pm
S- off (planned- saving legs for Sunday long run for once)
Su- 18 miles in 2 hrs 2 minutes (average 6.47)

Today was my longest run ever. the long runs are feeling more comfortable already, although I 'bonked' at about mile 15 today and had to push it hard to get home

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posted Sep-03-2006 02:04 PM               

---While my VO2max workouts are going mediocre and tempo workouts struggling a bit, all of my long, marathon-specific work has been going better than ever. I don't know if I should be confident because I'm training for a marathon and not a 10K so the longer stuff is more important, or worried because my LT and VO2max aren't up to snuff. This is kind of opposite of this spring, when the faster stuff was going great and I ran an awesome 10K but flat in the marathon.

I keep thinking of Geb, and how he was annihalating the half marathon WR and others leading into his last marathon, then bonked; or how Tergat did a similar thing a few years ago.

My Monday run was with a former mid-28 10K runner who didn't break 2:20 in the marathon until years after his 10K peak....he seemed to agree that it is very possible to train well for the 10K (or up to 25K he said), but miss the systems important to last thru the marathon.

Time will tell what the answer is...should be an interesting experiment anyways.

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posted Sep-03-2006 02:31 PM               

M: Off
T: 13.5k (5:38/k) Easy + 10x100m striders + fast last 1200 (~4/k)
W: 6.4k (6:10/k) Real Easy
R: Off
F: 16.8k (5:17/k) Steady + last 5K@MP
S: 8k (6:00/k) Treadmill, Easy, Weights
Su: 25k (5:53/k). ~15k trails. Last 4K@MP

Total: 69.6k

Felt good all week except for Friday. I picked up some new shoes and my right foot was bothering me after about 10k. No issues on Sat so I'm not too worried. Sunday felt good, not to tired afterwords. I started to feel tired or bored towards the end, so I pushed the pace up to MP and then I felt better. I'm hoping to add some weights and light cross training on the off or easy days over the next few weeks.

I'm planning on increasing volume the next two weeks, then I'll do a 30k race. I'm not sure how I'll run it yet. Right now I'm thinking first 5k easy (~5:30), then go for 20k @MP (~5:00) then either burn it up or cruise in, depending upon how I feel. Pfitz calls for a 17mi run with 12@MP that week, so the race fits in to my schedule pretty well. However the race is very hilly and those who run it say it equals a marathon in effort. I have been training on trails and hills for my longer runs, so hopefully MP on the course won't feel to hard.

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posted Sep-03-2006 02:35 PM               

total: 69.8 miles

This was truly the worst week all year, and with 4 weeks left until my race, I'm not feeling too confident. I hope this is as bad as it gets. I'd really hoped for a good, confidence-building 15K Saturday, but that was not to be. On the other hand, I did get to meet TD Runner at the race (good job, btw), so some good came out of it :-)

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posted Sep-03-2006 04:15 PM            

M: 11 total w/ 6x1000 at VO2Max (90 sec jog interval)...3:57 target. Ran 3:58, 3:45, 3:52, 3:54, 3:55, and 3:59. A pretty good set considering it was pouring rain on me.
T: 15.5 including ~6.5 w/ my normal Tuesday night running group. The group part was somewhere in the low 8s, with the rest being a little slower I think, but I didn't time any of it.
W: 10 recovery. Too lazy to get out of bed in the AM and run this as a double. Rain poured on me again.
R: 12.5 @8:03 pace
F: 5.5 in the rain and wind of Ernesto. Miserable. I kept thinking "I bet my competition isn't out here training today"
S: 17 w/ 14 at MP...actually ran 7:19s vs. MP of 7:26
SU: 6.2AM, 4.6 PM all at recovery pace.

Q for AndyHaas or anybody w/ experience on the Steamtown course--What is a good strategy for the first 7 miles (the steepest downhill part)? I am thinking about going out 10-15 sec/mile faster than marathon pace. Is that too agressive? Not aggressive enough?

Five weeks until Steamtown.

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posted Sep-03-2006 04:34 PM               

And a great 20 miler for you too Andy! Your 'nightmare' 10 mile race last week a distant memory I presume now!

Don't get too disheartened Joplus. Sounds like you were just unfortunate in the race. Better to have the stomach trouble hit you in this race rather than the marathon itself!

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posted Sep-03-2006 04:45 PM            

Twin Cities is just 27 days away. I have 60 mpw planned for next week and then it's taper. I don't know how I'll keep busy during the taper. I have a little tendonities in my ankle, but I know it's nothing serious. I tried doing hill repeats today. Why do the hills not get easier?

I'm really impressed by the miles everybody's putting in. Great Job to all.

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posted Sep-03-2006 05:10 PM            

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My long runs I'm just doing at a solid pace right now, trying to get used to being on my feet for more than two hours at a good pace. Soon I'll have to start hitting my MP during them which seems a bit daunting at the moment!

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mainers, I am following the Pfitz plan, so almost all of my long runs are run at a comfortable pace. He prescribed the first half at MP +20% (roughly a recovery pace) and the second half at MP +10% (sort of an everyday pace). He only has two MP runs, but of course multiple shorter tempo runs and some intervals and tune-up races. Sure does feel good to hit a good one like that. You'll get there.

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posted Sep-03-2006 08:41 PM               

Monday: Planned Day Off.
Tuesday: Planned 12, 12, 8 min. tempos but ankle hurt towards end of first, so stopped, at about 5:58 pace. Then ran 15 min. at 7:15 pace, without ankle issue, but with stomach still a bit off, probably from Saturdsy.
Wednesday: What a difference. Relaxed run and just cruised through about 9 miles, gradually picking up pace.
Thursday: Another relaxed run, about 7 miles, including a 1/4 mile, 120 foot-climb up which I ran in high school, which I think made me a good hill runner.
Friday: 5 mi am: off train early and then through Central Park.
6 mi pm: tired at first, but then relaxed.
Saturday: 20.5 miles in 2:20, on roads, in off-and-on drizzle. Pretty steady pace; about 10 secs quicker than trail time 2 weeks ago.
Sunday: Very tired, and struggled through a 6-miler.

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posted Sep-03-2006 09:23 PM               

NIce work everyone

I had my best week to date.

M - 6 treadmill
T - 10 outside
W - 6 treadmill
Th- 6 treadmill
PM strength training
F - more strength training
S - off
S - 18.34 (9:31/mile)

My long run today was my best ever. It was MP + 1min/mile. My heart rate during the 18th mile was 132 (very good for me). I feel confident enough to register for the race on 10/29.

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posted Sep-03-2006 09:47 PM               

Mo - AM - 6mi @ 9:42, PM - 4mi @ 8:18
Tu - VO2 max - 9mi inc. 5x600m - 2:16, 2:16, 2:13, 2:19, 2:19
We - AM - 15.4mi @ 8:26, PM - 5.1mi @ 9:07
Th - AM - 6mi with 10x100m strides - for the first time this workout felt comfortable. PM - 4mi @ 8:22
Fr - AM - 6mi @ 9:19 PM - 4mi @ 8:27
Sa - 12.9mi, inc. 3.7mi race @ 6:23
Su - AM - 6mi @ 8:39 PM - 4mi @ 8:27

total mileage - 82.4
avg weight - 187 down 1 lb from last week

Good Running, all!

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posted Sep-03-2006 09:57 PM               

Since we've all got lives, I'll cut to the chase:

Goal time: 3:30 (8:00 pace)
Actual time: 3:39:40 (8:23 pace)
Splits: 1:46 / 1:53:40 (8:05 pace / 8:41 pace)
More important splits: 20 miles in 2:42:41 (8:08 pace); last 6.2 in 57:00 (9:11).
Avg HR: 167 (84 %)

This was my first marathon since my PR (at 25) of 2:53:30 in 1983. Since I've run three half marathons at 7:00 - 7:05 pace during the past 18 months, McMillan put my MP at 7:25 or so. Since Mississippi has been brutal this summer, and since I wanted this test marathon to be a reasonably enjoyable experience, I put my MP at 8:00, called it submaximal, and assumed that I'd be able to hold it for 20 miles and then run the last 6.2 at half MP effort in 7:30s.

The weather this morning was great: best-case scenario. Low 60s at the 5 AM start and it was no more than 70 at the finish. That's awesome Labor Day weekend weather around here. No complaints.

I wore a HR monitor and swore I'd obey it, and did. My threshold is 177 or so. I never exceeded it for the duration of the race, until the final 200 yards. For much of the first 13 miles my HR hovered in the 165 range.

I paced myself very well. 8:23, 8:11, 7:57, 8:08, 7:52 (slight downhill), 8:04, 7:56, 7:59, 7:59. Hardly felt as though I were working. Water at every stop.

Every mile between 11 and 20 was betwee 8:03 and 8:16. Lots of rolling hills. Gatorade at every stop between 11 and 21.

The miles between 15 and 20 required a little effort, but here, too, I was very careful not to let HR rise past 174 or so, even on the uphills.

The only nutrition I took was two prunes at mile 10.

I guess I hit the wall slightly after the 21 mile point. Mile 21 was 8:16, effortful but tolerable. The next 1.36 miles--I was manually hitting my "log" button at the mile markers and lost it at this point--was 9:18 average. The remainder of mile 23 was 9:48 pace, but that's partly because I stopped for my first and only piss of the race, for about 30 seconds. The weird thing about hitting the wall--and I remember somebody writing about this here--is that it suddenly becomes all but impossible to run hard enough to raise your heartrate When I bonked on a hot-weather 20 miler this summer, it was a core-temperature-and-dehydration thing, and it sent my HR sky high at all the but the slowest jog. This wasn't like that. This was my pace slowing and my HR dropping from the low 170s into the low 160s. My plan was to be hitting 180 or so for the last 6.2, but I never went near that. Just couldn't do it.

So I'd followed my plan, I'd carb loaded like a mofo, I'd hydrated for two days before the race, I'd averaged 48+ miles for the past 12 weeks, I'd run two 20s, two 18s, and many 15s and 16, I'd put in many miles at MR (8:00) and a fair number of tempo runs at 7:30 and faster. Done my part of the bargain.

I realized somewhere around the 17 mile point that I just wasn't having as much fun as I always have at races. I was holding myself back, yet starting to hurt. I realized that it doesn't feel like racing to me if you're not pushing, and that most of the marathon--or at least this marathon--was about holding back. I'm willing to hold off if there's a payoff at the end, but in this case, it was a reverse payoff: I hit the wall shortly after 21 miles.

When I realized that I was hittting the wall, I also suddenly acknowledged to myself that the experiment had been made, that I'm a half marathoner at heart--I like the distance, the skimming speed, and the effort level--and that the marathon is not my event.

So I started looking around for a place to quit. My heart didn't exactly go out of the race; it's more as though I'd woken from a trance that I'd been in ever since I decided to try the marathon distance one more time. I realized that I would feel absolutely no shame in being a DNF. All I needed was the next water stop and somebody to drive me to the start, where my wife and 5-month old boy were waiting.

I stopped, took a long piss, and noticed a runner coming up behind me. He was hurting too. I looked at my watch and realized that I was at 22.7 miles. Another third of a mile and I'd have about a 5K left.

So I started jogging and fell in with him. "I hate this f-ing distance!" I shouted. "I've been trying to quit this m---f---ing race but I can't find a water stop."

"Hell, you've only got a 5K left!" he yelled.

The 23 mile water stop was up ahead.

Suddenly I decided that I really couldn't quit. Not because I was afraid of DNFing, but because my regular recovery run is two laps of a 1.4 mile course plus .2 miles, and because no matter HOW beat up I am, I'm always good for a three mile jog.

At 21 I wanted to quit and was going to quit, was TRYING to quit. Would have quit in a heartbeat.

At 23 I kept going. Ran 8:57, 9:23, and 9:32. Yelled at a few runners who were walking. (I never actually walked a step.)

Creaked into the parking lot, pushing a little on the final .2. "Hey honey!" my wife yelled, swiveling the video camera.

I missed my BQ by 8 or 9 minutes and that's just fine. I feel no sense of achievement, or failure. I feel as though an important question has been answered. I did swear to my wife, loudly, that I would never, ever, run another marathon. Later a runner laughed and told me that 90% of marathoners say this after they cross the line.

I will say that I've never run a race where I was determined to quit for two miles, looking around for somebody to help me quit, and then, failing to find any help, decided to finish. That is a new one. The fact that a marathon could present me with such a weird, unexpected scenario is what makes the marathon memorable.

Cheers, all. May the season begin.

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posted Sep-04-2006 01:32 AM            

Kudzu-- I feel I've found a kindred spirit. The marathon is a daunting experience-- the time/effort/mileage to prepare, then it's just so darn long! Well, you did finish. I echo a lot of your sentiments and have felt that way many times. But you've accomplished a lot this summer and got in great shape, and for a first marathon after so long away, that's not bad at all. I'm pretty sure in about 2.5 weeks we'll hear about your plan to follow up with your BQ attempt. Your marathon sounds much like the first several I did. The last two I feel like I finally turned the corner and didn't have that slow plod where you just can't push the pace the last 10k. I know it's multi-factorial, but I think two things stand out that may help if you don't abide by your swearing off the marathon said in the heat of the moment (done that many times too): 1) I think personally (everyone is different so take it with a grain of salt), the magic number is around 65-70 mpw avg. to guard against bonking-- don't know why, but did 50-55 three times, and that little extra bit made all the difference. (Obviously more is better if you can, but I just think 45-55, although a lot, is just shy of what is needed for most-- natural aerobic machine-like people are out there as exceptions I'll admit). 2) Fueling during the race. I used to try to get all my fuel with Gatorade, and gels made me sick and I thought I didn't need them. The two prunes only at mile 10 never gave you a chance. Seriously. I read your posts leading up to this about how back in the day no one did any gu's, gatorade, whatever. Heck, women used to have babied without epidurals-- and still do. WHY!!?? Believe it or not, I do think it makes a difference. For me the magic formula has become-- good breakfast 2.5 hours prior, evac. bowels before race, gel 15 min. before start, gatorade at every 2 mile water stop I'm not drinking a gel, water at others. Gels at 6, 12, 18, 22. Gels get opened 1 min. before stop, taking in small sips as I approach stop, finishing just before. Cup of water to wash down going through stop. It does make a difference-- especially mentally when it gets hard-- gotta keep that blood sugar up or the mind becomes very negative (or rational some may say).

Anyway, nice job, good training all summer and now you can enjoy a well deserved break! Secretly I have to agree with your sentiments about the marathon vs. the half or 10k's. But for some reason my life seems more full when I suffer more???

Andy and Southern Man-- nice long runs!

Joplus-- your training has been stellar and solid all summer. You were just due for an off week. It happens. You'll get back on track. Trust the work you've put in, finish the course and I think you'll do great.

Bugs-- tapering is great, getting to do shorter runs faster, feeling fresh. Then of course follows the neurosis the last week-- fretting about every detail and doubting your training/preparation, etc... Good luck.

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posted Sep-04-2006 01:51 AM            

M- 2.8 AM, easy, 9.8 PM, 88-90 degrees, slow-- running home from work-- car in shop

T-First VO2 of season. 9.7 total. 5 x 5 min. On (pace 5:56/mile), 3 min. off. On a jogging path along river-- to work, car still in shop. Felt good, probably should've pushed a bit more, times a bit slow.

W- 15.2-- 7:18 pace avg. Lots of 7:07-08 clicked off middle miles after easing in first 4-5. Finished strong, last couple miles working down into MP effort then half MP effort last 1 mile. Don't know exact pace last 3 miles as was on dirt portion of trail without mileage markers (total time/distance on google earth for avg. time-- middle miles marked on paved running path).

Th- AM- 9.1-- 7:10 pace with 3 x steep hill sprints in course. Last 400 at around mile pace-- felt really good, and just wanted to run.
PM- 3.8-- 8:02 pace, easy recovery
Transition to night shift for work (6PM-6AM Thurs-Sat. night-- wheels begin to fall off)

Fri-- 7.3 miles-- 45 degrees!!! Felt freezing this morning! Felt stiff first 4 miles. 6 x 100 sprints, 2 uphill. Avg pace slow 8:11

Sat-- 11.3--- Was supposed to do 17 with 12 at MP. Planned to do at 6 AM after work. Very busy night, no sleep, absolutely exhausted, went straight to bed. Got up after 5 hrs. sleep, tried to sleep more but couldn't in day, finally got out door at 2:30 in hot, bright sunny conditions-- only 78 degrees but for some reason felt much hotter. Ate half banana. 5 miles w/up, 1mile 6:33 then realized it just wasn't going to happen. Ran another 5.3 on treadmill inside, one more at MP, rest easy. Off work Mon. so will shoot to complete the MP long run then.

Total: 72.7

Mixed bag this week. Felt good early with first VO2 session and on Med long run mid-week and on strides-- feeling strong. Lack of sleep and work really messed up end of week and didn't get in quality Long run. So now I'm a bit behind schedule but I'll do Sat. w/out Mon. (have to get that one in) and just go from there.

Jeff, are you out there? How did Pocatello go?

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posted Sep-04-2006 09:00 AM            

Pocatello marathon...what a race. I got up early and got my friend Nephi (a strong sub-3 runner) and headed down for Pocatello. As we parked and got out to get on the buses, I saw a familiar face...Chuck Engle was here. So, during the ride to the start, sat by him to get an idea of this man and try to develop a strategy.

So, 6:30 sharp, the gun goes of at the start. This race starts at 6100 feet and drops down hill for the first 14 miles. After talking with Chuck, I decide one chance I have is to push him at altitude. So, I push the pace hard for the first 10 miles, leading the pack of Chuck, Nephi and myself. Thru 10 I have Chuck behind but he catches up and gets ahead at about 11 miles. By the half, he has about a 1 minute lead, but I catch him again at 15M. At this point, we are off the hill and into rolling terrain and I start feeling the results of our 1:18 split (but so does Chuck). I start struggling a bit and feeling tight, especially in my calves. At 20 miles, Chuck is up on me by about 2 minutes and the biggest uphill on the course looms. The hill, while short, was pretty good incline and killed me for a short while. As I hit the 23 mile mark, I could tell I couldn't catch Chuck even as I tried to pull my pace back down to a 6:20. So, I put down what hammer I had left and shot for the PR. As I came around to 25M, my calves started to tighten a little, but no cramp. At 26M the finish line was in sight and I just put my head down and power (so to speak) to a new PR.

So, overall, here are my results:

Time: 2:46:53
Place: 2nd overall

I would have had the win, but ran into a great runner, good job Chuck on the 20th win.

Pocatello is a good race, but a tough course that can beat you up. I got to meet lots a great people (Marathon Maniacs showed up in force at this one! Great group of people).

So, today my calves are still tight and I am walking like an old man, but feel great about the result.

Kudzu - great way to hang on and finish under the struggle!

Hope everyone's training goes well.

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posted Sep-04-2006 09:02 AM               

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posted Sep-04-2006 10:12 AM               

Southern Man - I'm debating what to do at Steamtown as well. I am thinking my goal will be revised to 2:24, but my goals are always soft for marathons and will vary with the weather, how I feel, and how the race unfolds (my 2:29 was a 2:32 goal race).

Right now, I'm thinking I'll go for around 5:20-5:25 during the downhill miles. This should still put the perceived effort at "easier than MP". If the "falling off the mountain" comment is an accurate description of the course, it should be an effort to keep it this slow. This should set me up well to maintain 5:30 or so until the uphills, giving a "small" cushion to help me through the hills on pace while maintaining effort level (ie 5:35s thru the hills).

There are two ways to use the hills - run them at effort and bank time for later, or run them at or just faster than goal pace at lower effort and save the effort for late in the race. I don't feel choice #1 is good because the downhills will also pound your quads some, and as you put the effort in you won't have it extra when the hills come. I like #2 because it makes the first third of the marathon even easier than normal, so the actual amount of time spent at marathon effort will be shorter. And, if you have a worse day than you expected, you'll have greater margin for error left.

Right now I'm still hoping to hear back on confirmation of my entry.

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posted Sep-04-2006 11:01 AM               

Joplus - Great meeting you. I'm ambivalent toward my effort and I'm going to race again next weekend. The humidity was bad but I question why I blew up at 7. I felt absurdly good through the 10K at 5:30 pace. I think it was more a fact of my mind not being race sharp. I'm very disappointed in that fact.

Bounce back over 100 this week and that will be it for this go around.

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posted Sep-04-2006 11:16 AM            

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So, overall, here are my results:

Time: 2:46:53
Place: 2nd overall

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Wow! Congratulations Jeff!!! You got second - that rocks!

Kudzu, I am glad you finished! You would have really regretted it if you quit at 23. And I agree with AndyHass, give it a couple days or weeks and you will probably change your mind. I think you ran a great race despite your mental challenges at the end. You almost quit and you were only a few minutes off your goal time!!! You worked hard this summer and it resulted in a pretty darn good race - great job.

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posted Sep-04-2006 11:53 AM            

jtshad - Nice run - Sounds like you raced to win and not to get your lowest possible time - I have never been there - It must have been cool - Nice PR. Sounds like with a more consistent pace you will be below 2:45 very soon.

Another week in the books - 115 miles - 84 in 7 morning runs and 31 in 6 afternoon runs.

Lowlight - Slept in and only did 10 instead of 20 on Wednesday.

Highlight - Ran a 20K Saturday - Plan was 10 @ MP with last 2.42 all out. Hit 5 in 31:15 - next 5 in 30:46 (10=62) last 2.42 in 14:19 (5:54 pace). We were staying in hotel and did not sleep much Friday PM - The 62 for 10 was perfect, but I wanted 5:40 pace the last 2.42.

Unless a miracle happens - My 2:39 goal will have to come at my 2nd fall marathon - Las Vegas. Right now I am in shape for a 2:42-2:44 - But my body and weather on race day will determine what happens.

Nice weeks everyone.

IP: Logged