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reboot
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 posted Aug-07-2006 08:23 AM
  
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Originally posted by teetime:
Reboot,Consider the following data concerning a 'general' brand PB versus a 'general' brand hummus (fitday): 1T PB: 95cal, 8g fat, 3g carb, 4g protein
1T Hummus: 26cal, 1g fat, 3g carb, 1g protein Note, note quite the same: 1/4c hummus on your sandwich leaves much more room in the diet for other foods than does 1/4c PB ; 2.6:1 fat to carb ratio is not quite the same as 1:3 ratio. Two additional things that are not the same follow: Sanctimonious = self-righteous, holier-than-thou, smug
Hypocritical = acting in contradiction previously stated beliefs or feelings I have no idea if you practice what you preach but you sure are smug (and what happened to those stellar google skills you've got?)
Comparing PB to humus and concluding PB is even less healthful does not make humus healthful. It is interesting however that you are so willing to acknowledge PB as a less than healthful food. The usual attitude in this forum is that PB is the nectar of the gods. My dictionary definition of Sanctimonious = hypocritically pious.
Regardless of the exact definition, it was used in its original context, and by you, as a personal insult unrelated to the qualities of hummus. As I said, a characteristic of very small people. ------------------
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reboot
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posted Aug-07-2006 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by kipK:
OMG how can you get in an argument about.....hummus???? this is too too funny!!!!
as others mentioned who kindly posted great recipes, it IS healthy depending on how much oil you put in....but even using a lot of olive oil is still better than anything partially hydrogenated or saturated...
So, you also conclude the standard product (which contains a significant amount of fats in general and saturated fats in particular) must be considered unhealthy. quote:
"healthy depending on how much oil"
Incidentally, the source of my information regarding the nutritional content of hummus is the USDA food database where they offer two breakdowns. One is for a commercial product and the second is for a homemade product. Both versions are nearly identical in both fat content and saturated fat content. The most significant difference is the commercial preparation had more (about 37% vs 24% of total fats) polyunsaturated fat. Despite this, you go on to compare it against an unknown product containing more or worse fats and therefore hummus must be healthful. ------------------
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Iontach
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posted Aug-07-2006 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by reboot:
My dictionary definition of Sanctimonious = hypocritically pious.Regardless of the exact definition, it was used in its original context, and by you, as a personal insult unrelated to the qualities of hummus. As I said, a characteristic of very small people.
Lord, try to keep track of who's being snarky to you. It wasn't teetime, it was me. My personal definition of sanctimony doesn't include hypocrisy. Yes, I am small - in fact, it is hard to see me with the naked eye. I get lost in the carpet pile. quote:
Originally posted by reboot:
The OP question was with reference to how hummus would score on a fictitious "healthful" scale. I suggested it would score near the bottom because of the high fat content. Others seem to feel it would score near the top because of the high fat content. I think they are wrong. As I indicated in my initial post, "Generally, healthful foods would be regarded as those low in fat." I have seen no arguments that any responsible authority thinks otherwise.
I'm struggling to see what you understand by "healthful". Low fat diets can be as unhealthy as any other. If you want to fixate on low fat to the exclusion of all else, no-one here is going to stop you, but don't expect us not to comment.
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reboot
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posted Aug-07-2006 09:13 AM
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Originally posted by Iontach:
I'm struggling to see what you understand by "healthful". Low fat diets can be as unhealthy as any other. If you want to fixate on low fat to the exclusion of all else, no-one here is going to stop you, but don't expect us not to comment.
And, I'm struggling to understand the irrational fault finding with my original post. Literally every post between the OP question and my first post was sufficiently concerned with the fat content of hummus and the health aspect of such a high fat content that they saw fit to specifically mention it. Now, suddenly everyone thinks all that fat is good? If you think a high fat foods are "healthful", I'm certainly not going to stop you, but don't expect me to not comment or alter my opinion. High fat diets have been shown to be unhealthy. ------------------
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decom
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posted Aug-07-2006 09:16 AM
when I first saw this thread, I thought you meant "humus".And I wondered: "why on earth would people eat that???" ------------------
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Iontach
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posted Aug-07-2006 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by reboot:
If you think a high fat foods are "healthful", I'm certainly not going to stop you, but don't expect me to not comment or alter my opinion. High fat diets have been shown to be unhealthy.
You've (inadvertently) put your finger on it. There is a difference between high-fat foods and high-fat diets. I think that a diet which includes hummus can be low(er) fat, just as I think that such a diet can include the odd avocado. I honestly don't think that the OP intended to make hummus her only source of nutrition - but maybe I'm not reading it right.
And I think that a diet that consists entirely of hard candy is not a good thing, in spite of having pretty much no fat at all.
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kellohaha
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posted Aug-07-2006 03:56 PM
personally, i find that my diet of deep fried oreos dipped in hot fudge and smothered on peanut butter mounds is quite healthful.... i tend to only eat things like hummus when i eat all the left over crumbs from between my rolls...------------------
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teetime
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posted Aug-07-2006 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by Iontach:
And I think that a diet that consists entirely of hard candy is not a good thing, in spite of having pretty much no fat at all.
Right-o. I sort of thought that the healthful-ness of a food was based on the food's core ingredients. Thus, a food made of lightly processed ingredients (e.g. chickpeas just cooked and mashed, sesame seeds crushed, olives pressed) would be considered quite healthful when compared to something like lucky charms which is no doubt a lower calorie food but in my opinion a much lower quality one. Reboot, I guess that your view of a healthful food is lost on me? What might that be? Lettuce is low fat but also low on other things including calories which fuel active muscles.
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randymar
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posted Aug-07-2006 05:17 PM
LT has an orange one, with white hybiscus on it. She hates it but I think it's ...
Huh??? Oh ...
I thought it said "mumu's"
Sorry. Carry on. ------------------
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LavenderGA
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posted Aug-07-2006 07:51 PM
There is a Whole Foods near my job. I really love the Hummus there; I think it's excellent. And it's also great at Eatiz's too. I think now I'll try some of the recipes I've seen posted.
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lauramarie36
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posted Aug-07-2006 10:17 PM
Great. Now I'm hungry for hummus. Gots to go have me sum ah dat.
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ljwoodw
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posted Aug-07-2006 10:48 PM
I like that reboot is at least questioning a notion that is often fairly carelessly tossed about. I've made similar comments about peanut butter before. Just because something is comprised of "good" fats, does not place it beyond reproach. If that were true, then we could guzzle entire bottles of olive oil with impunity. Hummus must be considered a high-fat food, since 48% of its calories come from fats. Not that fats are necessarily "bad", but most diets don't recommend more than 30% of calories from fat. That means that it must be offset by low-fat foods. In an otherwise balanced diet, hummus might tip the scale toward too much fat. Paired with a dearth of other vitamins and minerals, an argument could certainly made that it should be consumed carefully.It is also true that most of us don't need any more fat in our diets, even us vegetarian types. I doubt it's unusual for some vegetarians to eat more fat than the average omnivore, especially those of us who have been guilty of sticking our finger in the peanut butter jar from time to time...
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kxs
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posted Aug-08-2006 09:11 AM
but you can make it without the fat, at home I don't think anyone would make hummus with 48% fat???? and its still good...
how can humus start such an argument? what is the point? and I ended up thinking about this argument when eating it yesterday--not cool!
so now some happy hummus talk-I like red pepper hummus, olive hummus, plain old hummus, chili hummus, jalapeno hummus, garlic hummus and artichoke hummus. Avocado hummus sounded good, but just tastes like guacamole, which is good too. I like it on crackers, carrots, pasta, pita, and my finger.
MMMM
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lonesome dove
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posted Aug-08-2006 01:50 PM
I love hummus too. It is da bomb. I like it best with pignoli nuts, whole chick peas, and loads of olive oil on top.
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kellohaha
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posted Aug-08-2006 01:50 PM
i think the point is that 1 tbsp of hummus every once and a while can be part of a healthy livestyle but eating a tub of the stuff is bad... so what if theyre 'good' fats.. too much of anything is never 'good'... even drinking too much water can kill you!------------------
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Deb117
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posted Aug-08-2006 03:28 PM
mmm... hummus.Try using it instead of tomato sauce on a veggie pizza. It's good 
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vhm1
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posted Aug-09-2006 08:11 PM
Wow. The hummus thread remains on page 1 of the newbie forum. Must admit I've never before seen hummus referred to as "bad" or "a treat." Hummus is a staple of middle eastern, mediterranean, and north african diets. And I'll pre-empt any argument that quarter pounders are a staple of american diets by saying there is no nutritional or historical comparison between hummus and the quarter pounder. The primary ingredient in all hummus recipes and brands should be garbanzo beans (chick peas). I happen to have a can right here in front of me: a 1/2 cup serving contains 2 grams of fat, or 3% of a daily value and 9 grams of fiber, or 36% of a daily value. The sodium is high - 21% of your daily intake. This is why you should always drain and thoroughly rinse any type of bean before eating it. Add a small amount of kosher salt to a hummus recipe - remove the salt from the canned beans. I have ordered hummus in restaurants that is, admittedly, too oily. This hummus is usually very thin. Too much tahini may also be the culprit. Tahini is a smoothed sesame seeds that is rich in unsaturated fats Hummus should be thick like a paste. As Joan Benoit Samuelson says in her book Running for Women, "beans are a nutritional powerhouse, and those at the very top of the list include soybeans, pinto beans, chickpeas (garbanzos and ceci) and lentils." ------------------
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