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goindownsouth
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posted Jul-24-2006 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goindownsouth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by randymar:
Manhattan, for me please, sweetie.

Or, as I learned to make it: "Bourbon Martini"

We were drinking Mint Juleps downnashore last weekend ... just because.


Love me some Mint Julep...

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goindownsouth
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posted Jul-24-2006 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goindownsouth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by randymar:
Manhattan, for me please, sweetie.

Or, as I learned to make it: "Bourbon Martini"

We were drinking Mint Juleps downnashore last weekend ... just because.


Love me some Mint Julep...

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La Tortuga
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posted Jul-24-2006 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for La Tortuga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by randymar:
First of all, some of the bugs are bigger than you are, so they may be scared of YOU.

Secondly, two Nicholas Cages, in ANY movie, are way scarier than alligators.


Coming from NJ, you are well seasoned to Creepy Crawlies - no?

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randymar
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posted Jul-24-2006 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randymar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Creepy Crawlies???

Why, yes, thanks for asking.

Ladies and gentleman, La Tortuga!!! The best publishing goddess a guy could possibly want!!!

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RunMonkey
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posted Jul-25-2006 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunMonkey   Click Here to Email RunMonkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First -- I like bourbon a lot, especially in the fall, especially Knob Creek. I didn't like Maker's Mark as much, but that might have something to do with their kind of GQ quality, I think they're over-marketed and I get this feeling that they're specifically targeted at men, 25-35, and I am neither. Maybe I'll get me a bottle sometime soon, although we have all of this booze in this one cupboard that we never drink, because we're a beer and wine household primarily.

So, hi, everyone. I was in Buffalo all weekend, and as TOB (I think) pointed out earlier, those people really are obsessive about that Yueng Ling (I don't know how to spell that). It's everywhere. I've never even heard of it before, and I didn't try it because it's ubiquitousness suggests that it's crapola. Mom and Dad are drinking Stella Artois these days, which is an upgrade, but I made a pact with myself to do my time there 100% sober in an effort towards personal growth, so I barely drank anything.

The effort toward personal growth can be stated thusly: "I will not use any substances to distract me from how disturbing it is that my mother and I seem not to be related genetically on a familial level, and only barely seem to belong to the same species." Or, "Beer is not a substitute for insight." Although, in truth, beer can sometimes bring insight and there's something wonderfully adventurous about drinking with someone with whom you'd previously thought you'd had nothing in common.

Anyway, I have no beer reviews.

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JamesV
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posted Jul-25-2006 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JamesV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by webfoot:
James, slow down and work on your techniche (and I'll work on my spelling), Victory pours just fine.

as far as my ficklre humble and often just plain wrong opinion; the prima is fine, just to much money for that particular pils..no character, way to clean. And I'm a BIG Victory fan.


I don't think pouring technique was the cause as I'd only get about 2 oz. of beer in a pint glass, the rest would be foam. At first I thought just the specific batch the case came from that was the problem. A friend of mine also reported the same thing.

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randymar
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posted Jul-25-2006 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for randymar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, I'm not the expert, but this is what I do ...

I'll pour the "super-fizzy" beer - Prima Pils, Whirlwind, even CircusBoy can fizz up - then, while I'm waiting for the head to subside, I drink a cold HopDevil or DFH :60.

By the time I'm done with that, the foam has calmed down and I can safely pour - and enjoy - the rest of the bottle that I opened first.

This kind of falls in line with MikeMills's "open and rest" technique, without the wait for refreshment.

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La Tortuga
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posted Jul-25-2006 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for La Tortuga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I seem to remeber a pre-pour step or two, but not the details. I am sure he will enlighten us soon.

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webfoot
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posted Jul-25-2006 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for webfoot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yuengling is a pennsy beer that has been around for a while. For the price, it is actually excellent lawn mower beer. Their porter ain't half bad either. It's my "go-to" beer when I'm traveling and the local liquor store has squat to pick from.

So in a nutshell; ain't bad for the $

Runmonkey; congrats on sobriety. It ain't all its cracked up to be is it?

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goindownsouth
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posted Jul-25-2006 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for goindownsouth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It takes seven - that's right, I said SEVEN - minutes to pur a proper pilsner...

Patience, and you will be rewarded.

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randymar
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posted Jul-25-2006 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for randymar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Yuengling: America's Oldest Brewery."

When I was in college (this was before the micro revolution of the 90's) Yuengling was a hurtin' company. I went on a tour of the brewery for - get this - a business management class. They were real close to folding up but then pulled a Harley Davidson; they repositioned themselves as a niche beer, stopped competing against Bud and Miller, and revitalized themselves. I think I helped in no small way

That being said, I refer to Yuengling Lager as "Yuengling Lacquer."

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goindownsouth
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posted Jul-25-2006 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for goindownsouth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yuengling sucks. Next subject.

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RunMonkey
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posted Jul-25-2006 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunMonkey   Click Here to Email RunMonkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by webfoot:

Runmonkey; congrats on sobriety. It ain't all its cracked up to be is it?

Yeah--personal growth: meh.

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randymar
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posted Jul-25-2006 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for randymar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
“The problem with self-improvement is knowing when to quit.”
David Lee Roth

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La Tortuga
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posted Jul-25-2006 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for La Tortuga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
RunMonkey - so glad that you have not changed your name!

Earlier in this thread I too was "specifically targeted at men, 25-35". It was fine by me - a disguise? Then they read the part about knitting and well other assumptions were made. I alos prefer Knob Creek, plus it can be a tongue twister ordering a Maker's Mark Manhattan.

Buffalo - my in-laws are in NF and Grand Island - they stick to the Canadians. Molson Golden, Labatts Blue and may branch out to G. Cream Ale. Best to stay sober out there as a few beers make the river look oh so pretty and the real estate prices a life improvement. Glad to hear that you made it out!

Perhaps a run would help.

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webfoot
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posted Jul-25-2006 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for webfoot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by La Tortuga:
RunMonkey - so glad that you have not changed your name!

Earlier in this thread I too was "specifically targeted at men, 25-35".


I don't think there is a dude on this thread younger then 40......

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webfoot
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posted Jul-25-2006 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for webfoot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by goindownsouth:
Yuengling sucks. Next subject.

Theres only one beer on this planet that merits the suffix "sucks"; Rolling Rock. Actually, maybe two, Killians red is pretty crappy too (could be it gave me one of the worst hangovers in my life.....).

I dunno, maybe its my trailer park side comming out, but its kinda nice to swill beer that don't cost >$8 a six-pack.

Therefore Sir, I respectfully disagree with your assessment.

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goindownsouth
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posted Jul-25-2006 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goindownsouth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by webfoot:
Theres only one beer on this planet that merits the suffix "sucks"; Rolling Rock. Actually, maybe two, Killians red is pretty crappy too (could be it gave me one of the worst hangovers in my life.....).

I dunno, maybe its my trailer park side comming out, but its kinda nice to swill beer that don't cost >$8 a six-pack.

Therefore Sir, I respectfully disagree with your assessment.


Don't get me wrong, as a life-long Pennsylvanian, I grew up on it. But there are much better, fresher, and again BETTER options out there for just a few pennies more. No one ever said good beer had to cost more than $8 for a sixer.

But, it's cool to disagree. Drink what you like and like what you drink.

[This message has been edited by goindownsouth (edited Jul-25-2006).]

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randymar
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posted Jul-25-2006 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randymar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The ones in that 25-35 age group, usually come on, say how wasted they are, then leave.

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La Tortuga
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posted Jul-25-2006 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for La Tortuga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hopefully each of us has a cheap "fall-back" beer. One that can be found at any wedding, outside patio or in-laws home. Availability often has an influence on what this beer might end up being. For example, choosing G Cream Ale limits me to ginger ale at most of the above events. Therefore I have happily switched to Bud. No problem - although I do draw the line at Bud-light.

This being said, I also hope that we all don't chose the same "fall-back" beer - what fun would there be in that?

$$$ - always a good limit setting. Some days a simple grilled hot dog (decorated with yellow mustard) and washed down with a cold tall-neck is about as good as it gets!

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La Tortuga
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posted Jul-25-2006 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for La Tortuga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by goindownsouth:
No one ever said good beer had to cost more than $8 for a sixer.[This message has been edited by goindownsouth (edited Jul-25-2006).]

Wait!!! Hold on there!!!

is it possible that you are scoring Victory at a lower price being closer to the source?

How big - exactly - are the bugs out there?

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goindownsouth
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posted Jul-25-2006 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goindownsouth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by La Tortuga:
Wait!!! Hold on there!!!

is it possible that you are scoring Victory at a lower price being closer to the source?

How big - exactly - are the bugs out there?


I can get a case of most Victory brews for under $30. Storm King, St. Victorious and some others, obviously, are higher. Down the road, you can get a case of Sly Fox Pils or Pale Ale cans for $22, I believe... Amazing stuff... And their Royal Weisse will be in cans starting next spring.

Dig THAT!

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randymar
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posted Jul-25-2006 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randymar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by goindownsouth:
Don't get me wrong, as a life-long Pennsylvanian, I grew up on it. But there are much better, fresher, and again BETTER options out there for just a few pennies more. No one ever said good beer had to cost more than $8 for a sixer.

I wrote something back in the earlier days of the thread ...

quote:
Maybe tonight, some gal, who only knows of NASCAR Beer, will have her first Guinness. Maybe it's a special tonight, maybe someone buys her one, maybe her friend orders one and doesn't like it, but she's not afraid. The flavor and color will pleasantly catch her by surprise, a creamy smile will cross her lips and she'll know a journey has begun ... she'll join The Tribe.

Now granted, Yuengling ain't Guinness by any stretch; but if a person (much like myself, once did) ventures outside the NASCAR Brew-niverse and tastes Yeungling Porter and likes it, and then begins a quest for other porters and then other varieties and styles, it has served its purpose.

No one has every in the course of human history, ever had Yuengling and said "This is the best beer ever, and is all I shall drink until the end of my days."

More likely would be, "Hey, this isn't bad. It has flavor. I wonder if there other beers like this."

Sure, some people DO look at the price point and say "Why bother?" (as I am guilty of concerning Golden Monkey). This could be economical Beer-winism, that keep the riff from swiping up all the Dogfish Head, I don't know, but it works for me.

And sometimes, it hits close to home.

My brother came over Saturday, to help on a project of ours. After our task was completed, I offered him a DFH :60, in a glass. He looked at it and without even a taste, he said, "No, thanks; I'm a wimp. I'm sorry."

Good, one more for me.

I gave him a Pilsner Urquell instead. It was the closest I had to Coors Light.

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RunMonkey
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posted Jul-25-2006 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunMonkey   Click Here to Email RunMonkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, I only meant the advertising for Maker's Mark is targeted at men that age. Its image has a status symbol quality to it.

And I am always on the look out for beer that costs less than $8 for a six pack. But I've been forking over the big bucks because the only thing I can find for less than $8 (that's at all appealing) is Blue Moon, and I'm not nuts about it. I don't mind hockey beer, though. It just feels weird to drink it outside of Buffalo.

And I WISH I could run LT, but in my hyper-enthusiasm to get my mileage up to 35 mpw, I hurt my calf muscle and now I'm taking the week off. Grrr.

The positive thing is, though, is that I've now paid my dues to my parents by paying a visit and can stay home for another six months, defiantly rejecting all personal growth. YAY!

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JamesV
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posted Jul-25-2006 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JamesV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IMO, Yuengling is far better than any of the Coors, Miller, A-B brands. Its the beer I'll serve at a party when I know most of the folks aren't more adventuresome. It has one of the better brewery tours I've experienced. I'm still on the fence with Lord Chesterfield ale, though.

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