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La Tortuga
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posted Jan-16-2006 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for La Tortuga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MikeMills:
I guess some words are non-un-able and others are un-non-able.


Oh like Church Brew Non-Denominator Doppel Bock couldn't really be Church Brew Un-Denominator Doppel Bock

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randymar
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posted Jan-16-2006 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randymar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by La Tortuga:
Or should it be non-? What was that rule again?


Not really a rule, but here are the guidelines (from Page 40 - Beer 2005)

quote:
Originally posted by MikeMills:
Nah. Some days I just feel really... un-American.

quote:
Originally posted by randymar:
See ... here is a example of the prefix "un-" being used instead of a more proper "non-"

Mike is not (to my knowledge, anyway) ...

UN-American: Considered contrary to the institutions or principles of the United States.

He's merely ...

NON- Amercian: where the prefix NOT infers: not, other than

My favorite misuse occurs on the news every couple of days:

In a three car accident on the Schullykill Expressway, all drivers escaped UNINJURED ... I would say they were NON-INJURED. In my mind, you are UN-injured after you have been injured and then fixed / healed.

A door that has been stuck, and then fixed is ... UNSTUCK.
A blouse that was done and then made to be more appealing has been UNDONE.
A girl who was wearing a dress and now is not has been UNDRESSED.
A beer bottle that has not yet achieved is destiny is UNOPENED - well that should actually go with the NON-OPENED option.


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randymar
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posted Jan-17-2006 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for randymar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good news for you mike ... A Terry Pratchett movie

quote:
From Variety:
Raimi books a 'Free' ride

'Spider-Man' helmer scores Sony 'Wee' pic

By MICHAEL FLEMING


Sam Raimi will direct "The Wee Free Men," an adaptation of Terry Pratchett's bestselling young-adult novel.
Sony Pictures Entertainment has acquired the book and set Pamela Pettler to write the script.

Raimi and Josh Donen will produce through their Sony-based company, along with Created By's Vince Gerardis and Ralph Vicinanza. Studio is aiming to develop an event-sized live-action family film that Raimi could possibly direct as the follow-up to his third "Spider-Man" installment, which begins production this month.

Published in 2003, "Wee Free Men" has kid empowerment and otherworldly themes with an edgy, irreverent tone. A 9-year-old farm girl heads off to a parallel world to retrieve a brother who has been grabbed by a nasty fairy queen. She battles the monsters of Fairyland with the help of 6-inch-tall blue-faced rowdies who wear kilts, speak in thick Scottish brogues, steal sheep and drink heavily.

The novel is part of the British author's Disc World series, whose volumes are big sellers around the world. Project came together after Pettler read the book and persuaded Gerardis and Vicinanza, who controlled the rights for the author, to come aboard. Raimi and Donen sparked to their pitch.

Columbia exec Sam Dickerman will supervise.

Pettler most recently co-penned "Tim Burton's Corpse Bride" and co-wrote for Sony the Robert Zemeckis-directed CGI pic "Monster House." She's writing "9," a CGI fantasy for Focus Features that Burton is producing and Shane Acker is directing, and is rewriting "Nick Tungsten, Nightmare Hunter" for director Doug Liman at Paramount and Nickelodeon. Pettler is also set to adapt Roald Dahl novel "The Twits" for Disney and Vanguard.


Cheers!!!

Did you see "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy?" Thoughts?

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La Tortuga
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posted Jan-17-2006 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for La Tortuga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love the D Adams books and really appreciate a set of four books that are referred to as a trilogy. I did rent the movie and what I saw of it I liked - but then I fell asleep. This was more likely a reflection of my energy level and not the movie. I should rent it again and watch it all the way through.

You?

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MikeMills
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posted Jan-17-2006 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MikeMills   Click Here to Email MikeMills     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by randymar:
Good news for you mike ... A Terry Pratchett movie

Cheers!!!

Did you see "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy?" Thoughts?


Holy hell! I read Pratchett books between my big "serious" books. In fact, I met him when he came to Austin (just for a nano-second. I had a photo of my friend's newborn son for him to sign. He paused, smiled, looked up, asked "is this your boy?", to which I said "no", so he drew a small speech bubble coming out of the baby's mouth saying "Bugrit"). I can't believe they're finally making a movie from one of his books. I haven't even read that one, and it's from his teenagers Discworld series...

Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy was fantastic to me. It's easy to see how a lot of it would pass over a lot of people's heads, but I thought it was a loving and faithful adaptation of the books. I'm only sad because it seems like they may not make a sequel.

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La Tortuga
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posted Jan-17-2006 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for La Tortuga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MikeMills:
It's easy to see how a lot of it would pass over a lot of people's heads...

No comments against short people from the peanut gallery please.

[This message has been edited by La Tortuga (edited Jan-17-2006).]

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La Tortuga
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posted Jan-17-2006 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for La Tortuga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Back to beer and food combinations.

Last evening El Señor and decided to eat out. I do as I usually do and ordered what I am incapable (or non-capable as the case may be) of making. In other words, the pork roast with asparagus and potatoes. (and MM thought I was a vegetarian) My Ipswich IPA did not go well with my dinner. Why is that? What would you have chosen – a Porter perhaps?

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therealman
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posted Jan-17-2006 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for therealman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I think the problem was the asparagus.

A couple nights ago I went for Bar-B-Que and washed it down with a long neck Lone Star.

I bottled and sampled my Christmas Cheer (a little late I know). It's not as good as the batch I made a couple years ago. The recipe calls for orange and lemon zest which adds a nice soar bite to the beer but I used to much and it over powered some of the other flavors, namely Maple Syrup and Honey. O.G. 1.065 and F.G. 1.011.

5.7% by weight
7.1% by volume

I also bottled my ChocoBock. I need to wait a couple weeks to sample it but the impression I got from what was in the hydrometer tube is that it will be pretty good. I made this once before but could not find the recipe. I was afraid that this time I used too much chocolate but after tasting the stuff in the tube I think I am okay.

1.080 O.G.
1.024 F.G.
5.88% by weight
7.35% by volume

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La Tortuga
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posted Jan-17-2006 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for La Tortuga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by therealman:
I bottled and sampled my Christmas Cheer (a little late I know). It's not as good as the batch I made a couple years ago. The recipe calls for orange and lemon zest which adds a nice soar bite to the beer but I used to much and it over powered some of the other flavors, namely Maple Syrup and Honey.


Fruit can have that affect on beer you know

I am back pedalling on the Cherry Stout at the moment - the recipe calls for something like 7 pounds of cherries.

How were your holidays?

Oh yes - and as long as you stopped by - what book are you currently reading?

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randymar
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posted Jan-17-2006 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randymar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by therealman:
I think the problem was the asparagus.

I find that the only thing I could imagine to drink with asparagus, would be Clorox.

Sorry ... not a fan.

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MikeMills
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posted Jan-18-2006 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MikeMills   Click Here to Email MikeMills     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by La Tortuga:
Oh yes - and as long as you stopped by - what book are you currently reading?

True story: I spoke to my sister on the phone last night for the first time in a while, and as usual we got talking about books and movies. She suddenly starts describing a book she just read as one of the most amazing, beautifully-written, sleep-deprivingly un-put-downable ever - Shadow of the Wind by Carlos Ruiz Zafon! Frickin weird - but when you consider the reputation he's building on this book, not surprising. You must read this book.

That's all.

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MikeMills
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posted Jan-18-2006 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MikeMills   Click Here to Email MikeMills     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by therealman:
A couple nights ago I went for Bar-B-Que and washed it down with a long neck Lone Star.

What's up, daddio? Man, Lone Star?! I love their new bottle labels - they've gone back to the old school brand. But the beer stinks. Literally. Although I guess if you're eating barbeque it can't hurt...

quote:
I bottled and sampled my Christmas Cheer (a little late I know). It's not as good as the batch I made a couple years ago. The recipe calls for orange and lemon zest which adds a nice soar bite to the beer but I used to much and it over powered some of the other flavors, namely Maple Syrup and Honey. O.G. 1.065 and F.G. 1.011.

5.7% by weight
7.1% by volume

I also bottled my ChocoBock. I need to wait a couple weeks to sample it but the impression I got from what was in the hydrometer tube is that it will be pretty good. I made this once before but could not find the recipe. I was afraid that this time I used too much chocolate but after tasting the stuff in the tube I think I am okay.

1.080 O.G.
1.024 F.G.
5.88% by weight
7.35% by volume


I love both those beers. When does Apple Brown come out?

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La Tortuga
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posted Jan-18-2006 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for La Tortuga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by therealman:
A couple nights ago I went for Bar-B-Que and washed it down with a long neck Lone Star.
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeMills:
What's up, daddio? Man, Lone Star?! I love their new bottle labels - they've gone back to the old school brand. But the beer stinks. Literally. Although I guess if you're eating barbeque it can't hurt...

That is the MM I remember from 2002. When did you last try Lone Star? TRM does brew afterall.

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MikeMills
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posted Jan-18-2006 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MikeMills   Click Here to Email MikeMills     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by La Tortuga:
That is the MM I remember from 2002.

Wow - we've been at this a long time, eh?
I had Lone Star last week. There is nothing good you can say about it. But like I said, practically anything cold and wet stands up to barbeque...

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randymar
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posted Jan-18-2006 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randymar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MikeMills:
... practically anything cold and wet stands up to barbeque...

You can't imagine how difficult it is for me NOT to post a wet T-shirt photo here ...

... With some nce low-riders and a cowboy hat.

... right about sunset.

... 1955 Ford F-100 in the background, rusting out nicely.

Mike, you know what I mean. There's probably one down the street, if not in your backyard.

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MikeMills
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posted Jan-18-2006 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MikeMills   Click Here to Email MikeMills     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by randymar:
You can't imagine how difficult it is for me NOT to post a wet T-shirt photo here ...

... With some nce low-riders and a cowboy hat.

... right about sunset.

... 1955 Ford F-100 in the background, rusting out nicely.

Mike, you know what I mean. There's probably one down the street, if not in your backyard.


Yeah, but the person wearing the hat, wet t-shirt and lowriders is a dude named Gene, and he has a scary twinkle in his eye...

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randymar
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posted Jan-19-2006 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for randymar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MikeMills:
Yeah, but the person wearing the hat, wet t-shirt and lowriders is a dude named Gene, and he has a scary twinkle in his eye...

EEEK!!!

If he invites you over for a beer, find ANY excuse to decline.

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La Tortuga
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posted Jan-19-2006 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for La Tortuga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MikeMills:
Yeah, but the person wearing the hat, wet t-shirt and lowriders is a dude named Gene, and he has a scary twinkle in his eye...

Move over babe - that twinkle isn't directed at you. Really - how many versions of "Long Black Veil" do you have in your music collection?

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MikeMills
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posted Jan-19-2006 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MikeMills   Click Here to Email MikeMills     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by La Tortuga:
Move over babe - that twinkle isn't directed at you. Really - how many versions of "Long Black Veil" do you have in your music collection?


Not enough apparently - what that is?

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randymar
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posted Jan-19-2006 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for randymar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by La Tortuga:
Move over babe - that twinkle isn't directed at you. Really - how many versions of "Long Black Veil" do you have in your music collection?


quote:
Originally posted by MikeMills:
Not enough apparently - what that is?

The Long Black Veil
By: M. Wilkens & D. Dill
Originally recorded by J.R. Cash: 12/17/64
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Ten years ago, on a cold dark night
Someone was killed, 'neath the town hall light
There were few at the scene, but they all agreed
That the slayer who ran, looked a lot like me

The judge said son, what is your alibi
If you were somewhere else, then you won't have to die
I spoke not a word, thou it meant my life
For I'd been in the arms of my best friend's wife

Chorus
She walks these hills in a long black veil
She visits my grave when the night winds wail
Nobody knows, nobody sees
Nobody knows but me

Oh, the scaffold is high and eternity's near
She stood in the crowd and shed not a tear
But late at night, when the north wind blows
In a long black veil, she cries ov're my bones

Repeat Chorus

Again, I say... EEEK!!!

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MikeMills
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posted Jan-19-2006 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MikeMills   Click Here to Email MikeMills     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by randymar:
[b]The Long Black Veil
By: M. Wilkens & D. Dill
Originally recorded by J.R. Cash: 12/17/64[/B]

Ah, Johnny boy. I thought it rang a beil. I mean, bell.

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La Tortuga
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posted Jan-19-2006 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for La Tortuga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MikeMills:
Not enough apparently - what that is?

It was written by Nashville songwriters Danny Dill (composer of The Streets of Laredo) and Marijohn Wilkin (the writer of Jimmy Dean’s two hits, the JFK-mythologising P.T. Boat 109 and Big Bad John) in March 1959. The Long Black Veil (its full original title) was inspired by the real life murder of a New Jersey priest combined with newspaper accounts of a woman in a black veil who regularly visited Rudolph Valentino’s grave. Dill and Wilkin set out to make it sound like an old Appalachian ballad so as to hang onto the coat tails of the then burgeoning folk music revival. Within days of writing it, they got the then fast-fading country star Lefty Frizell to record the song in March 1959 (with a line-up that included Grady Martin and Harold Bradley on guitars and Marijohn Wilkin on piano). The result was released in May 1959 and the hit record revived Frizell’s career. Other artists have recorded the song, including Johnny Cash, Joan Baez and The Country Gentlemen, but The Band learned the song from Frizell’s original version. The song fits the mood of the album perfectly (it would have fit the next album too).

Edited to add that this really is my favorite country song. It is also performed by many "country cross-overs" - The The does a version as well as Mike Ness from Social Distortion (as if I needed to tell you that), Nick Cave and The Chieftains with Mick Jagger.

Thanks for posting the lyrics Randy - I think that says it all.

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La Tortuga
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posted Jan-19-2006 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for La Tortuga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Randy - do you remember when you didn't realize that there were 25 posts to a page?

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La Tortuga
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posted Jan-19-2006 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for La Tortuga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just a thought...

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randymar
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posted Jan-19-2006 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randymar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by La Tortuga:
Hey Randy - do you remember when you didn't realize that there were 25 posts to a page?

It's coming in handy now, though.

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