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TrailOBite
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posted Jun-27-2006 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrailOBite   Click Here to Email TrailOBite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
RunMonkey, owning a home is like having more than one
period a month, in many ways. Something always needs to
be replaced. We bought an unfinished cabin shell in 1990,in
a homeowner assn setting, on a 38 acre lake. No gas, cable
or road service. We heated only with wood for 13 years!
It's been a trip. We jacked it up and put a basement under it.
(That sucked).
We paid it off 2 years ago.It is still completely unfinished,and
that confounds the rest of mankind to no end,but it is ours.

I envisioned a more private setting,and at least one finished
bathroom, but I learned I need less than I think I do and have
more than I realize.

Saw a great heron, a flicker, a hummingbird,and 2 bluebirds
last night in my yard! I felt rich.
(Hopefully this won't all split up).

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randymar
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posted Jun-27-2006 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for randymar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For 75 Years, It Was a Sight to Steer By in Newark
By JONATHAN MILLER - NYTimes

NEWARK, June 26 — For many who gathered here on Monday, the day marked the passing of yet one more piece of New Jersey lore, an urban monument for drivers on the Garden State Parkway. It had been the subject of a popular song and even had a role in a recent episode of "The Sopranos."

It was the toast of a town whose bustling industrial past was awash in breweries, from Ballantine and Krueger to Hensler and Feigenspan.

It was the 60-foot-tall Pabst beer bottle, which had loomed 185 feet above Newark for 75 years, serving as a guidepost for countless weary drivers.

But on Monday, after a lengthy struggle, the rusted bottle — which was actually a 55,000-gallon water tank — came down piece by piece over seven hours. For now it is five enormous pieces of steel and copper plate three-eighths of an inch thick, and its fate is far from settled.

Ted Fiore, whose company has been demolishing the 10-acre site of the former Pabst brewery for two years, said he planned to restore the bottle at his warehouse in Newark and then give it a new home.

So far, Mr. Fiore said, "several alcoholic-beverage companies" have expressed interest. It might end up in Newark, he said, or perhaps along the Jersey Shore in Dover Township, where a nightclub could take it.

The tank was built for Hoffman Pale Dry Ginger Ale in the early 1930's, and when Pabst bought the plant in 1945, it changed the label and painted the bottle blue. Later it turned reddish, either from paint or rust.

When the plans to demolish the plant and bottle were announced in 2004, local preservation groups tried to have the bottle designated a landmark, but removing the bottle from its original site would have made it ineligible for landmark status, according to state law, and so they dropped their effort.

"It's kind of a sad day," said Matthew Gosser, an adjunct professor of architecture at New Jersey Institute of Technology in Newark, one of the many lilliputians who filmed and photographed the dismantling of the hulk during a grim, rain-splattered day.

Mr. Gosser said he had grown so attached to the bottle that he had climbed halfway up the side last year before the police intervened. He had wandered among several of the abandoned buildings on the complex and salvaged remains for an art show, he said.

A few weeks ago, when word got out that the bottle would finally be removed, he downed some sangria, headed for the vacant brewery on a chilly Friday night and camped on the roof.

"I thought I would spend one last quiet moment with the bottle," Mr. Gosser said. "One night."

For less sentimental residents, memories come cheap.

"Nostalgia's one thing," said Earl Hardy, the owner of Papa Earl's Deli on nearby Avon Avenue and a man with graying temples. "Reality's another. You want nostalgia? Take pictures."

That is exactly what he did, snapping photos with a disposable camera as he stood on South Orange Avenue. Some drivers fumbled with cameras as they passed by, and others pulled to the side to gawk.

For those who had watched the neighborhood deteriorate even before the brewery was closed in 1986, Monday was a reason to celebrate. "Yay! Woo!" exclaimed Mamie Bridgeforth, the councilwoman for the West Ward, which includes the complex.

"This is terrific," Ms. Bridgeforth said, sounding giddy. "I want to sit on that bottle and have my picture taken like Marilyn Monroe."

With that, she strode up and posed beside the bottle with construction workers, and then she stood inside it, flashing a hearty thumbs-up.

The old bottle had a hard time letting go, standing atop a four-story pile of concrete chunks and rebar wire that resembled the spilled guts of an industrial monster.

Crews from the T. Fiore Demolition Company of Newark had expected to take the bottle down well before this; an attempt failed last year, as did another this month that was attended by Mayor Sharpe James. At 25 tons, the bottle was far too heavy for the cranes, so a few weeks ago the company ordered reinforcing cable, and the bottle was cut into sections with acetylene torches, placed on flatbed trucks and carted to the company's warehouse in the Ironbound district.

The rest of the site is expected to be bulldozed by the end of the year, and then New West Developers of Newark says it will begin construction of a 130,000-square-foot shopping complex. The developers hope to have the first business in the building by 2007.

Rashid Pharms, cochairman of the Neighborhood Square Block Association, said he was glad to see the rusted bottle go, since the defunct brewery had been attracting the homeless and criminals. And he had little patience for those who lamented its passing.

"That's all wonderful when you drive past, 'Oh, it's a bottle!' " Mr. Pharms said. "But when you're down here at ground zero, we're the ones holding the front lines. This bottle had its place and time."

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Life is Short ... Make Fun of It.

400 Beers

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TrailOBite
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posted Jun-27-2006 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrailOBite   Click Here to Email TrailOBite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for that, Randymar. Nobody appreciates folk art until
it is gone. Cool story.

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randymar
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posted Jun-27-2006 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for randymar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The word on the street is that Beer Advocate has been named best beer website by Details magazine.

Is that the metrosexual one???

We haven't bashed them in quite a while.

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randymar
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posted Jun-27-2006 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for randymar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RunMonkey:
Whelp. Here I be, checking out whether my user name still works. I almost hope it doesn't, I'm sick of it.


"It's not a question ... Of your personality or style"

David Byrne

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randymar
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posted Jun-27-2006 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randymar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Smuttynose was chosen as the Best Beer of New Hampshire, by and for the people of New Hampshire.

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randymar
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posted Jun-27-2006 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randymar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
July 21-22 – Friday and Saturday
Vermont Brewers Festival

For those who LoVermont - and we know who you are

http://www.vermontbrewers.com/festival.html

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randymar
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posted Jun-27-2006 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randymar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
July 29: HopHead ThrowDown at the Publick House*, Brookline, Mass.

Minimum 70 IBUs (that's hoppy) with fiery food and BeerAdvocate (oh, well)
Noon-5 pm.






* I've heard of that place!!!

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MikeMills
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posted Jun-27-2006 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MikeMills   Click Here to Email MikeMills     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love Vermont!

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randymar
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posted Jun-27-2006 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randymar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought it was Maine???

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MikeMills
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posted Jun-27-2006 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MikeMills   Click Here to Email MikeMills     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maine's my second home. But Vermont is where we honeymooned (partly). Plus we get Ben & Jerry's, Phish, and Magic Hat from there. But you don't need me to tell you that...

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randymar
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posted Jun-27-2006 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randymar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trey's from Princeton.

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La Tortuga
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posted Jun-27-2006 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for La Tortuga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by randymar:
[b]July 21-22 – Friday and Saturday
Vermont Brewers Festival

For those who LoVermont - and we know who you are

http://www.vermontbrewers.com/festival.html[/B]



Yes!!! I love Vermont too - I need to go to this.

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randymar
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posted Jun-27-2006 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randymar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's why I share ... to keep you - and all my friends - informed of things they NEED to know about.

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La Tortuga
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posted Jun-27-2006 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for La Tortuga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's an event that I have been told I cannot sign up for

http://www.baevents.net/bigmanrun/

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randymar
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posted Jun-27-2006 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randymar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Lady Volunteers Needed"

That calls to mind a FZ quote ... which I cannot share here.

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La Tortuga
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posted Jun-27-2006 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for La Tortuga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by randymar:
[b]July 29: HopHead ThrowDown at the Publick House*, Brookline, Mass.

Minimum 70 IBUs (that's hoppy) with fiery food and BeerAdvocate (oh, well)
Noon-5 pm.






* I've heard of that place!!![/B]


Funny - I was there on Sunday. I have been meaning to write something us as we had A Bast and some Belgians. Maybe next week...it is really a great place.

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La Tortuga
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posted Jun-27-2006 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for La Tortuga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by randymar:
"Lady Volunteers Needed"

That calls to mind a FZ quote ... which I cannot share here.


Ladies indeed - I want to run through the streets with a hot dog in one hand, a cold beer in the other and the sun on my back with the rest of the pack.

In the photo on the web site, you will notice some of the racers are looking at their watches - are they really worried about their time?

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randymar
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posted Jun-27-2006 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randymar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the photo, it looks like the white haired guy is slapping the little guy's hand away ... I can imagine that his elbow is going to follow through into his chin.

As for #223 ... dunno.

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webfoot
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posted Jun-28-2006 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for webfoot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Runmonkey,
Before you change your name, highly recomend this;

http://www.victorybeer.com/golden_monkey.html

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randymar
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posted Jun-28-2006 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randymar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mike been trying to steer us to Golden Monkey for nearly a year now

quote:
Originally posted by MikeMills (June 26, 2005):
Right now I'm drinking the Golden Monkey. Anybody else had this? It's powerful stuff! 9.5% alcohol (am I slurrring my wordss?) and dangerously smooth, especially with some warming. I can't find anything that says they put honey in this, so I'll believe them - but that's what I'm tasting, with some really nice, herbal, not-quite-balancing hops. For all the sweetness that hangs on the tip of the tongue, it somehow finishes dry in the back of the throat with that lingering, heady alcohol warmth. It's almost a... err... sexual experience. Is that wrong?

The discussion continued here, page 31

Frankly, the boy worries me.

[This message has been edited by randymar (edited Jun-28-2006).]

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MikeMills
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posted Jun-28-2006 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MikeMills   Click Here to Email MikeMills     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
webfoot - just let it go...

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MikeMills
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posted Jun-28-2006 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MikeMills   Click Here to Email MikeMills     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by randymar:
Trey's from Princeton.

Yeah, but Phish is from Burlington...

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webfoot
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posted Jun-28-2006 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for webfoot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
let what go??????

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MikeMills
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posted Jun-28-2006 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MikeMills   Click Here to Email MikeMills     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pushing Golden Monkey on these guys. It was meant as sort of a hushed, dig-in-the-ribs, tongue-in-cheek, warning type of thing. I see now that I was a bit vague - sorry.
But it still stands - they really don't want to try it.

[This message has been edited by MikeMills (edited Jun-28-2006).]

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