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Topic: Earphones |
NAB1984
Cool Runner |
 posted Sep-10-2006 08:27 PM
  
I was supposed to run my long run today. Why did it get cut short? CRAPPY EARPHONES! I have had a great pair for almost 8 years. They have threatened to die on me a few times now, but have always come back to life, amazingly. Each time I have attempted to buy new ear phones and they have been HORRIBLE. Now, however, they have finally decided to give out for good and so I had to go to the store to buy new ones... I bought new ones and once again they were AWFUL. Any recommendations? I shouldn't have to worry about earphones on a long run...
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LewJ
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posted Sep-10-2006 09:48 PM
Let me get this out of the way first:You could try running without music and just enjoy the pitter patter of your footfalls and the wheezing of your raspy breath.
Okay, now that we have the requisite "try running without headphones" comment in, we can move onto suggestions relevant to your question.
The best sport phones I've found so far are the Senneheiser PMX-70 headphones. Ugly-a$$ green you'll have to get over. They stay put, they're comfortable (takes a few min to get used to at first, give 'em a chance), and if you need to take 'em out of your ears during a run they sit on your neck comfortably. They have 'em at Crutchfield here
[This message has been edited by LewJ (edited Sep-10-2006).]
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Arrojo
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posted Sep-11-2006 05:29 PM
Let me get this straight. You bagged your long run because you had no music. Worse, you were already doing your long run and stopped. Not because you were injured or sick, but because you had no music.  How serious are you about your training? I agree with one thing you said: "I shouldn't have to worry about earphones on a long run... "
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NAB1984
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posted Sep-11-2006 11:16 PM
My question was not about my training - that is my own business and I didn't ask you to comment on it. Nor did you offer advice on the earphones... Thanks
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Stealth26
Cool Runner |
posted Sep-12-2006 02:37 AM
Best pair I have found for under 15.00 at walmart.I like them. Hope this helps http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4931419 ------------------
**DTFB**
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maryt
Cool Runner |
posted Sep-12-2006 05:55 AM
Good grief - cutting your long short just because your earphones wouldn't work? I couldn't believe what I was reading, either. Personally I think Arrojo offered wonderful advice about earphones. Leave them off!If you are trying to do long runs in preparation for a race, keep in mind that many races ban earphones, so trying a long run without them is excellent practice.
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LewJ
Cool Runner |
posted Sep-12-2006 08:51 AM
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Originally posted by Arrojo:
How serious are you about your training?
*sigh* Same old self-righteous elitist bullsh!t. Tell me, by what authority do you have to judge someone else’s training methods and priorities?
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muzicgrl
Cool Runner |
posted Sep-12-2006 12:14 PM
I have the Koss spark plug earphones and love them. I personally cant stand ear buds because they fall out and hurt my ears when they are in. These earphones were the perfect solution for me and they are only about $10.They do tend to block a lot of ambient noise though so I keep my ipod turned way down so I can hear whats going on around me.
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txdave13
Cool Runner |
posted Sep-12-2006 12:57 PM
These behind the neck headphones from Nike are great. I picked some up at Best Buy over a year ago and love 'em. http://www.keenzo.com/showproduct.asp?ID=319237&ref=FROG&mfg=PHILIPS
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Urquell
Cool Runner |
posted Sep-12-2006 02:05 PM
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Originally posted by LewJ:
*sigh*Same old self-righteous elitist bullsh!t. Tell me, by what authority do you have to judge someone else’s training methods and priorities?
Agreed. Get off your high horse people. The guy is looking for advice on headphones. He wasn't asking for your criticism on his training.
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Gallowalker In Maine
Cool Runner |
posted Sep-12-2006 02:16 PM
I wouldn't run across the street without earphones.
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Arrojo
Cool Runner |
posted Sep-12-2006 04:17 PM
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Originally posted by LewJ:
*sigh*Same old self-righteous elitist bullsh!t. Tell me, by what authority do you have to judge someone else’s training methods and priorities?
The authority of common sense. We can maintain a civil discourse about the pros and cons of running with earphones. But this isn't about that. It's about stopping in the middle of a long run because earphones broke. That's just lame. That's like storming out of a restaraunt in the middle of a meal (even though the food is fine) because they decided to turn the TV off. Or stopping after 5 holes in golf, because the color of the golf cart was all wrong.
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Grizzly
Cool Runner |
posted Sep-12-2006 04:33 PM
Bias up front: I don't like music on runs. That said, this isn't about my dislike of headphones. But I share Arrojo's "elitist" incredulity of having to bag a run because they broke? No injury? No fatigue? No illness? C'mon!!! By the way, neither of us really qualifies either as "elite" or "elitist". Let's keep the name calling out of this.
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Notey
Cool Runner |
posted Sep-12-2006 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by LewJ:
Same old self-righteous elitist bullsh!t.
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91Aggie
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posted Sep-12-2006 04:57 PM
Heh... I wear headphones when I do long training runs (not in races though), and I thought it was a bit silly to quit the run because the headphones broke.My batteries have died before in the middle of 15 milers, but I kept going... it is possible.  If you post something like this in a forum, you are going to get opinions/remarks you don't want to hear. Learning to ignore those dissenters goes a long way to making your life easier. I can't help you... I buy cheap $8 headphones at Target. They usually last about 6 months. I sweat so much that more expensive ones probably wouldn't last longer. And if this is a troll, it's a pretty good one.
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merigayle
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posted Sep-13-2006 06:17 AM
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Originally posted by 91Aggie:
Heh... I wear headphones when I do long training runs (not in races though), and I thought it was a bit silly to quit the run because the headphones broke.
I agree! My iPod ear buds have lasted for quite some time. try ebay, you can get a lot of great deals on new ear buds and headphones.
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LewJ
Cool Runner |
posted Sep-13-2006 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by Arrojo:
It's about stopping in the middle of a long run because earphones broke. That's just lame
Um, no. It was about someone asking for suggestions on headphones to use when running.
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Originally posted by Grizzly:
By the way, neither of us really qualifies either as "elite" or "elitist". Let's keep the name calling out of this.
I beg to differ. Everyone has his or her own reasons for running, each person’s motivations and priorities are likely to differ from one another. Incredulity that someone bagged his or her long run due to headphones not working implies that someone who would do so is inferior. Arrojo even calls it “lame” Who are you to judge the validity of someone’s reason for bagging a run? Especially when it has nothing to do with the original question. -- Lew PS: For the record, sometimes I run with earphones, sometimes I run without. Most of the time I might listen for the first little while then turn it off. My bias is against those who think they have some right to tell others how they should run their runs.
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DonkeyMan
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posted Sep-13-2006 10:38 AM
Hey Arrojo....I could beat you running backwards with headphones and a smoke hanging from my lip......I don't judge you....Don't be condescending....Nobody is impressed
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Grizzly
Cool Runner |
posted Sep-13-2006 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by LewJ:
I beg to differ. Everyone has his or her own reasons for running, each person’s motivations and priorities are likely to differ from one another.Incredulity that someone bagged his or her long run due to headphones not working implies that someone who would do so is inferior. Arrojo even calls it “lame” Who are you to judge the validity of someone’s reason for bagging a run? Especially when it has nothing to do with the original question. -- Lew PS: For the record, sometimes I run with earphones, sometimes I run without. Most of the time I might listen for the first little while then turn it off. My bias is against those who think they have some right to tell others how they should run their runs.
1) Calling something lame is calling an action lame, not a person, not implying anything about the person. At no point did Arrojo refer to the person as lame. There's a big difference. You on the other hand are labelling people. 2) You, sir, brought the whole subject up in your first comment in your first post. People with logs in their eyes? 3) It is called "running", not "extreme line dancing". And... you did suggest (tell perhaps) the person how to run didn't you? I am a musician. I'm not going to tell anyone NOT to enjoy music, but this is a RUNNING board. If people want to run with earphones, fine. I have a bias against that. I still think that bagging a run because an earphone isn't working is lame. Not that the person is lame, but it is a lame thing to do.
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Urquell
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posted Sep-13-2006 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by Grizzly:
I am a musician. I'm not going to tell anyone NOT to enjoy music, but this is a RUNNING board. If people want to run with earphones, fine. I have a bias against that. I still think that bagging a run because an earphone isn't working is lame. Not that the person is lame, but it is a lame thing to do.
I'm just curious and not trying to start a debate, but what activities do you consider permissable to use headphones? Can one only enjoy music under certain conditions?
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91Aggie
Cool Runner |
posted Sep-13-2006 11:47 AM
Let's not start the music during running debate... it's been covered ad nauseum.The people against arguments are:
1) It's not natural... you aren't a real runner, and/or
2) You will get run over by a car, and/or
3) You will get mugged/shot/kidnapped/raped, and/or
4) You won't hear them coming behind you to pass them and won't be able to move out of their way, and/or
5) You will do it in a race and cause someone to crash into you and ruin their race because you couldn't hear them and weren't paying attention. (Most big races ban them, but people still wear them). Essentially the people against them want to protect you from yourself and assume that anyone wearing them is going to be a hazard to everyone else. Just ignore them and do what you want. But bagging a run because your music stopped is always gonna be silly. That's an absolute.
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Grizzly
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posted Sep-13-2006 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by Urquell:
I'm just curious and not trying to start a debate, but what activities do you consider permissable to use headphones? Can one only enjoy music under certain conditions?
Look, I'm not turning this into a debate on the merits of using headphones. I'll say it again: If you want to use them FINE. I stated that I have a bias against them, but this isn't about the headphones, it's about bagging a run because they were broken.
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Urquell
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posted Sep-13-2006 11:59 AM
Ok - end of discussion! 
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Arrojo
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posted Sep-13-2006 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by DonkeyMan:
Hey Arrojo....I could beat you running backwards with headphones and a smoke hanging from my lip
Until the headphones broke....
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LewJ
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posted Sep-13-2006 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by Grizzly:
1) Calling something lame is calling an action lame, not a person, not implying anything about the person
LOL, what now, are we going to dispute the meaning of the word “is”? By the same logic, I never called any person in this thread an elitist. I called an attitude elitist, not a person. But really, when you comment on someone’s actions or statements, you are commenting on their persona by association. If those comments sting, then maybe it’s time for some self-evaluation. Maybe they have merit, maybe they don’t. I call it like I see it. If you don’t like the word elitist, don’t post judgments of someone’s reasons or motivations.
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2) You, sir, brought the whole subject up in your first comment in your first post. People with logs in their eyes?
You might check into the concepts of satire and sarcasm. I knew someone out there would jump in with some sort of unhelpful anti-headphone comment, so I jokingly thought to stem the tide. I figured it was pretty obvious sarcasm from the word-choices, guess not.
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[…]this is a RUNNING board. If people want to run with earphones, fine. I have a bias against that. […] I still think that bagging a run because an earphone isn't working […] is a lame thing to do.
Just for grins and giggles, let me toss out a couple questions… (a) Who gets to define “running”? Not the physical action but the avocation and the reasons for pursuing it. Is your style and motivation superior to mine? Or is mine superior? Who decides? (b) What is the definition of a “runner”? Is someone who runs ten minutes on a treadmill two days a week while watching TV a runner? Three days a week? Or do they have to run twenty minutes? Do they have to run outdoors? How many miles? What is the objective measure by which we can determine if someone is or is not a “runner”? (c) What is the universally accepted criteria making it okay to bag a run? Sore toe? Inclement weather? Too hot? Too cold? Garmin batteries run out? HRM quits working? Busted shoelace? Creepy guy in a car makes the third drive-by? Let me know when you come up with universally accepted criteria for these.
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