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melonella
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posted May-04-2007 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for melonella   Click Here to Email melonella     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by HarryLime:
That's def not a bad way to get used to putting socks and shoes on wet/dirty feet. I'll have to give it a try and see if I too can perplex my neighbors.

Also consider whether you plan to put a shirt on in T1 or wear one under your wetsuit. If you're planning to put one on, definitely practice this -- putting a shirt on a wet torso with possibly tired arms is not a slam dunk.

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HarryLime
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posted May-04-2007 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HarryLime     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by melonella:
Also consider whether you plan to put a shirt on in T1 or wear one under your wetsuit. If you're planning to put one on, definitely practice this -- putting a shirt on a wet torso with possibly tired arms is not a slam dunk.

Hmmm.....well the tri I'm planning on doing is in central IL in August in a medium-sized lake so I was figuring (and hoping) the water would be warm enough so I wouldn't need a wetsuit. If I don't use one then I'll probably swim shirtless which means I should practice throwing on my bike jersey while wet.

I know all people are different, but, generally speaking, at what water temp do people start wearing a wetsuit? Also, I know there's trishorts but are there tri-shirts that I could wear during the swim that would give me a little warmth (and then I wouldn't have to throw on a shirt at T1)?

Thanks.

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posted May-04-2007 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TriBob   Click Here to Email TriBob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by HarryLime:
TriBob, how do you go about doing one of these 90 degree turns? Seems like it would come in real handy in a sticky situation.


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Move your weight back, lock up the front brake, pull up on the pedals and the back wheel will come off the ground, use your hips to swing the bike 90 degrees, start pedaling when you make contact with the back wheel. Not a high speed maneuver; but, if you get cut off it can get you out of a head on collision.

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DawnT
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posted May-04-2007 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DawnT   Click Here to Email DawnT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by HarryLime:
I know all people are different, but, generally speaking, at what water temp do people start wearing a wetsuit? Also, I know there's trishorts but are there tri-shirts that I could wear during the swim that would give me a little warmth (and then I wouldn't have to throw on a shirt at T1)?

I'm not a very good swimmer, so the wetsuit helps me get into a better swim position and therefore have a better swim split. So, as long as it's wetsuit-legal, then I'm wearing a wetsuit. That's for 750 meters and longer swims. Anything shorter and I'd have to figure out if the time required to get the thing off is worth the reduced swim time. I'm doing Triple T at the end of this month. The first of the four races is 250 meter swim and I won't be wearing a wetsuit unless the water is frigid (< 62). I would say that water between 62 and 68 is iffy - definitely more comfortable with a wetsuit, but not really necessary. Above 68 and the water temp is easy to handle.

There are tri-shirts, but they are essentially no-sleeved cycling jerseys. I doubt they'll give you any warmth in the swim. Putting on a jersey in T1 is tricky, but not impossible.

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HarryLime
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posted May-04-2007 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HarryLime     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DawnT:
I'm not a very good swimmer, so the wetsuit helps me get into a better swim position and therefore have a better swim split. So, as long as it's wetsuit-legal, then I'm wearing a wetsuit. That's for 750 meters and longer swims. Anything shorter and I'd have to figure out if the time required to get the thing off is worth the reduced swim time. I'm doing Triple T at the end of this month. The first of the four races is 250 meter swim and I won't be wearing a wetsuit unless the water is frigid (< 62). I would say that water between 62 and 68 is iffy - definitely more comfortable with a wetsuit, but not really necessary. Above 68 and the water temp is easy to handle.


Well the swim is only a quarter mile so I don't think I would have that much to gain by wearing a wetsuit. Unless, of course, the water is real cold but I doubt that'll be the case in August. Thanks again Dawn for the always helpful advice. I'm sure they'll be a few more questions to come.

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thirdtimeisacharm
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posted May-04-2007 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirdtimeisacharm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taper Question- At what intensity should I do my remaining workouts with the race 1 week away? I have a one hour run and a 40 mile ride scheduled for this weekend and I'm not sure how much to push, if at all...

Swim start question- Is there a preferred method for getting through the breaking waves without drowning or wasting too much energy?

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TriBob
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posted May-04-2007 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TriBob   Click Here to Email TriBob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by thirdtimeisacharm:
Taper Question- At what intensity should I do my remaining workouts with the race 1 week away? I have a one hour run and a 40 mile ride scheduled for this weekend and I'm not sure how much to push, if at all...

Swim start question- Is there a preferred method for getting through the breaking waves without drowning or wasting too much energy?

Thanks,

Hal


Aerobic intensity. Add some 30 second run accelerations to keep the fast twitch muscles firing. This is not enough to be a hard work out. Save it for race day.

Dive thru the waves.

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picchk
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posted May-05-2007 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for picchk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's an extremely newbie question....

I'm running (or at least trying to run!) my 1st 5K tomorrow. I can sign up when I get there. How do I attach my number to my shirt? Will they supply pins or do I need to bring something?

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pcsronbo
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posted May-05-2007 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pcsronbo   Click Here to Email pcsronbo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by picchk:
Here's an extremely newbie question....

I'm running (or at least trying to run!) my 1st 5K tomorrow. I can sign up when I get there. How do I attach my number to my shirt? Will they supply pins or do I need to bring something?


they will give you safety pins. Remember, pins go in the shirt, not in the skin. Very important also, for running the number goes on the FRONT (bike it is back or side)

put it somewhere others can see it. it's part for the race vols but also for the race PICTURES if they have them. And remember to smile for the camera!

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picchk
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posted May-05-2007 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for picchk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pcsronbo:
Remember, pins go in the shirt, not in the skin. Very important


Thanks.....I'll do my absolute best not to injure myself before the run!

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Kymber
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posted May-06-2007 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kymber     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok... one more stupid newbie question:

When I am going up a really big hill... when i am in a very low gear and I go to stand up, it's like there isn't enough resistance or something? Does that mean that I am in too low a gear? That I am a weakling? maybe a little of both? Am I doing something wrong? I think maybe I could get up the hill if I could figure out how to stand and swing my arse (and bike) back and forth to get a little momentum.

I KNOW I have quad strength issues. It's starting to get better... but how exactly should I be doing big hills? Is there a trick? LIke downshift into the lowest gear before you hit the hill? or as you are going up? And before you tell me to just go practice on little hills first... understand that I live on a BIG hill and Im getting pretty embarrassed pushing my bike up to the top.

Help!

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triandstopme
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posted May-06-2007 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for triandstopme   Click Here to Email triandstopme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How you attack a hill will depend on your fitness and how long and/or steep the hill is. Check out this thread for more insight on this.

As for not having enough resistance when you stand up, just before you stand, shift up a couple of gears, so that when you stand, you have enough resistance to take advantage of the additional power you can generate while standing.

Likewise, you may need to shift back down when you sit back down (if you haven't already crested the hill), but if you get enough momentum going, you may not have to shift all the way back down immediately.

As for when to shift down, yes, it's good to anticipate just a bit and shift down so you can keep your cadence in the 90 rpm range if you're staying seated.

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melistic
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posted May-06-2007 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for melistic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
one more ?...
you know the military mud runs they show on t.v. w/ the obstacle courses and the jarheads yelling. I've seen one's where they let the public play.... I've googled every key word I can think of but can't find a local listing.
I know somebody here knows
I want to play!

[This message has been edited by melistic (edited May-06-2007).]

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TriBob
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posted May-06-2007 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TriBob   Click Here to Email TriBob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by melistic:
one more ?...
you know the military mud runs they show on t.v. w/ the obstacle courses and the jarheads yelling. I've seen one's where they let the public play.... I've googled every key word I can think of but can't find a local listing.
I know somebody here knows
I want to play!

[This message has been edited by melistic (edited May-06-2007).]


http://www.muddybuddy.com/

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mbannon
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posted May-06-2007 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mbannon   Click Here to Email mbannon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by melistic:
one more ?...
you know the military mud runs they show on t.v. w/ the obstacle courses and the jarheads yelling. I've seen one's where they let the public play.... I've googled every key word I can think of but can't find a local listing.
I know somebody here knows
I want to play!

[This message has been edited by melistic (edited May-06-2007).]


Here in the Northwest those are usually called Scrambles or Adventure Races. I'm thinking I might try one next year. We'll see. They sure look fun.

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melistic
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posted May-06-2007 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for melistic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks Bannon. I'll ckeck those too.

TriBob I think I'm in love...

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runnerparris
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posted May-06-2007 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for runnerparris     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's the ones we have here in So. Cal. I do it every year. They sell out super fast.

http://www.camppendletonraces.com/hcrs_overview.html

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jroden
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posted May-06-2007 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jroden   Click Here to Email jroden     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kymber:
Ok... one more stupid newbie question:

When I am going up a really big hill... when i am in a very low gear and I go to stand up, it's like there isn't enough resistance or something?


When you stand up, your RPM's will drop. Now, if you are standing because your rpm's are already too low to continue to ride seated, just stand up and keep on going. If you are standing up for some other reason, click down into one cog HARDER (i.e. smaller sprocker in teh rear) gear as you are standing up.

Remember that it's OK to rock the bike a bit as long as you are maintaining a straight path when out of the saddle.

If you are unsure, try doing 10 kicks in the saddle and 10 out up a long gradual hill so you get the feel for shifting gears and changing your position. When standing, adjust your weight so you are centered with the body weight over the pedals, you should have little weight on your hands. Changing your hip andgle can use different muscles, so play with that also. Practice riding on the white line out of the saddle without weaving, every time the front tire scrubs on the road from weaking, the bike slows down.

Finally, when you go to sit down, toss the bike forward so the seat rolls up the road to meet your butt, rather than plopping down on the bike. Every time you do this, it advances your bike another foot forward.

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LookiLoo
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posted May-08-2007 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LookiLoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just keeping this thread afloat: Any tricks for not losing count of my laps when swimming? I don't know if I am losing my mind or what, but I just can't seem to remember past 3 or 4....was that 6 or 8? 8 or 10? I try to do an easy 400 warm-up, but it never fails, after the first 50 or 100, I have to just keep swimming until I'm feeling warmed up Tips anyone?

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mbannon
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posted May-08-2007 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mbannon   Click Here to Email mbannon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LookiLoo:
Just keeping this thread afloat: Any tricks for not losing count of my laps when swimming? I don't know if I am losing my mind or what, but I just can't seem to remember past 3 or 4....was that 6 or 8? 8 or 10? I try to do an easy 400 warm-up, but it never fails, after the first 50 or 100, I have to just keep swimming until I'm feeling warmed up Tips anyone?

There have been almost as many threads on this topic as there are posts in this thread. Pretty much everyone seems to have this problem, and pretty much everyone has their own solution. Some use the rings on the lane line (move them for each 5 laps or whatever), others use a stack of pennies, others wear a small lap counter on their finger. Me, I use the alphabet. I pick a theme for the day, then think of words for each letter. So it's the Apple lap, then the Banana lap, and so on. Much easier to keep track of than by using numbers for some reason.

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jkv135
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posted May-08-2007 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jkv135   Click Here to Email jkv135     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I use a slate and literally check off the laps as I do 'em. I can't count worth a darn after 4, must be the musician in me.
You can pick up a slate at a dive shop. They are made for writing underwater so the side of the pool is EZ.

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4boysmom
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posted May-08-2007 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4boysmom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't lap swim, but used to ahve a terrible time keeping track of laps on the track. Now, I start with rubber bands on my left wrist, then move them to the right as I finish a lap. Not sure if that would work for swimming...

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LookiLoo
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posted May-08-2007 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LookiLoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks - it's good to know I might not be losing my mind...yet

Next question....

I have yet to sign up for my first tri as I'm still not entirely sure of which one I would like to do. I am signed up for a clinic in the first part of June, but that's about it . There is a tri in October that is Olympic distance and it looks like a lot of fun, but I'm wondering if I may be shooting a little too high? I can easily run the 10K, the bike and swim I feel pretty comfortable I could handle, I'm just not sure I can put all 3 together

Even if I do decide to bite the bullet and sign up, I'm thinking it would be a good idea to do some of the local sprints (there are plenty in this area in July and August) just to make sure I have some clue as to what I'm doing before I tackle that distance. But I'm still wondering if I have time to sufficiently train for something that distance as a newbie?

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LeftRightRepeat
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posted May-08-2007 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeftRightRepeat   Click Here to Email LeftRightRepeat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by picchk:
I'm running (or at least trying to run!) my 1st 5K tomorrow. I can sign up when I get there. How do I attach my number to my shirt? Will they supply pins or do I need to bring something?

You may find this thread useful.

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posted May-08-2007 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeftRightRepeat   Click Here to Email LeftRightRepeat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LookiLoo:
Any tricks for not losing count of my laps when swimming?

I just use my watch. I hit the plsit button after each lap. Not only does it give me a lap count - but, later, I get time and splits to boot!!!


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