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HarryLime
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 posted May-02-2007 08:38 PM
  
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Originally posted by jwcrew99:
Ever see a NASCAR wreck at Tallegega?Not pretty
I understand now why they can't ride aero but I haven't seen a wreck at Talladega. Although I did see the movie Talladega Nights w/ Will Ferrell. All I really remember from it was Will Ferrell dancing around in his underwear on the race track and the Bill Lumbergh playing his father. It was kinda disappointing.
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jwcrew99
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posted May-02-2007 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by HarryLime:
I understand now why they can't ride aero but I haven't seen a wreck at Talladega.
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Try this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6BRP6vWbqA In relation to putting your bike in your car, I put the frame of my bike in my car's trunk, a Subaru Legacy. I take the wheels off, turn the bars 1/4 of the way, and lay it in the trunk with the bottom bracket toward the seat and my aero bars pointing up. I put a blanket over the frame then lay the wheels on top so I don't scratch the frame or decals off. This way the bike is safe and secure, I do not get the interior of the car dirty with grease/road grime, and I do not adversely impact my cars MPGs as I would with a roof rack. Helmet and other gear goes on back seat. Jon
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HarryLime
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posted May-02-2007 09:20 PM
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Originally posted by jwcrew99:
Try this linkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6BRP6vWbqA In relation to putting your bike in your car, I put the frame of my bike in my car's trunk, a Subaru Legacy. I take the wheels off, turn the bars 1/4 of the way, and lay it in the trunk with the bottom bracket toward the seat and my aero bars pointing up. I put a blanket over the frame then lay the wheels on top so I don't scratch the frame or decals off. This way the bike is safe and secure, I do not get the interior of the car dirty with grease/road grime, and I do not adversely impact my cars MPGs as I would with a roof rack. Helmet and other gear goes on back seat. Jon
That's a pretty nasty crash. I'm not sure how those guys have the nerve to do that for a living. Anyways, that's not a bad way to transport your bike. I'm already taking off my front wheel and it would probably just be quicker to have to also put the back wheel back on rather than reinstalling aero bars. I'll give it a try soon.
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DawnT
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posted May-02-2007 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by HarryLime:
Is the professional bike fit geared more towards making sure your seat, handlebars, and stem are adjusted to the aerobars, or is the setting of the aerobars themselves what's important?
The fit is in regards to the entire position of each part of your body on the bike. The idea is get as aero as possible while still being reaonsably comfortable (or else you won't stay down in your bars). You want a 90 degree angle (or as close as possible) between your upper body and your legs. You also want a 90 degree angle to your elbows on the aerobars (or else you'll be too stretched out). I'm simplifying things here, but that's the essence of a good fit IMO. Tom Demerley has some good stuff about this on his website: http://www.bikesportmichigan.com/bikes/karma.shtml Not everyone can give you a good, professional fitting. Most bike shops will say they can, but be wary. If at all possible, look for someone who is FIST certified. This is a fit program developed by Dan Empfield (founder of Quintana Roo and Slowtwitch). The only problem is that then you have to say that you were "fisted". I went to a FIST certified place, but I have trouble saying that!!  If you need to take your aerobars off from time to time, you just need to mark the position with tape and you'll be all set. You can also loosen the bars so they move around to a position that will fit in your car without actually removing them.
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4boysmom
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posted May-02-2007 09:50 PM
Bike fit question--as far as being FISTed (man is that hard to say!!!)... Do they recognize the difference between men's and women's fit? As in women aren't just small men?Hell's about to freeze over. I talked to my husband about getting a new Terry. He thinks it's too expensive, but said to give him a few days to think it over. Generally, I do get what I want...
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DawnT
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posted May-02-2007 09:56 PM
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Originally posted by 4boysmom:
Bike fit question--as far as being FISTed (man is that hard to say!!!)... Do they recognize the difference between men's and women's fit? As in women aren't just small men?
I'm not sure exactly, but the process takes into account the differences I believe. When I was fitted, they measured almost every possible part of my body - inseam, arm length, shoulder to elbow and I'm sure there were others, but I forget now. Those measurements gave them a starting point for where to position the seat, pedals and bars. Then, I got on the bike and it was tweaked from there. It took about 1.5 hours and quite a few changes were made during that time with me pedaling and trying out each change. I *love* my position now.
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HarryLime
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posted May-02-2007 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by DawnT:
I'm not sure exactly, but the process takes into account the differences I believe. When I was fitted, they measured almost every possible part of my body - inseam, arm length, shoulder to elbow and I'm sure there were others, but I forget now. Those measurements gave them a starting point for where to position the seat, pedals and bars. Then, I got on the bike and it was tweaked from there. It took about 1.5 hours and quite a few changes were made during that time with me pedaling and trying out each change. I *love* my position now.
Do the adjustments they make while getting fisted throw off your comfortability for normal riding either on the drops or the hoods?
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DawnT
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posted May-02-2007 10:09 PM
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Originally posted by HarryLime:
Do the adjustments they make while getting fisted throw off your comfortability for normal riding either on the drops or the hoods?
I don't ride on my drops (never have - my diaphragm gets compressed and I can't breathe), but I can sit up just fine and be comfortable. It's just that I'm more comfortable in the bars, so I stay down most of the time.
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melistic
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posted May-02-2007 10:13 PM
TriBob,
I thoroughly enjoyed this thread. If you don't mind
you said:
"Muscles can only store a limited amount of glycogen. It needs to be replaced for longer events during the event itself. If not, you enter a catabolic state."in 60- 90 min? what happens to me in a catabolic state?
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4boysmom
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posted May-02-2007 10:18 PM
That sounds like what I had done for my custom bike. It was called the "Fit Kit". Perhaps it's the same thing? I've always been very comfortable on the bike--even riding 32weeks pregnant!What's the going price for a good fitting? Should that be part of the price of a new bike?
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wyrillco
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posted May-02-2007 10:58 PM
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Originally posted by mbannon:
At 11 min/mile you won't come in last.
True. I run slower than that and, while I've certainly come in last, it doesn't happen at decent sized races. That's the key 
Don't let it bother you. You'll do great!!! There are a lot of people out there slower than you, like me!
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pcsronbo
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posted May-03-2007 06:36 AM
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Originally posted by wyrillco:
True. I run slower than that and, while I've certainly come in last, it doesn't happen at decent sized races. That's the key Don't let it bother you. You'll do great!!! There are a lot of people out there slower than you, like me!
Oh god, I WISH I could average 11min miles! I've been doing this 3 yrs now and my first races I avg'd 17min miles and I STILL wasn't last. I think the last people were in the 22-23min/mile and they got more applause than the winners.
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pcsronbo
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posted May-03-2007 06:40 AM
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Originally posted by melistic:
TriBob,
I thoroughly enjoyed this thread. If you don't mind
you said:
"Muscles can only store a limited amount of glycogen. It needs to be replaced for longer events during the event itself. If not, you enter a catabolic state."in 60- 90 min? what happens to me in a catabolic state?
Serious:
Your body starts eating muscle for fuel to keep you going. You need to avoid this state as it is SO easy to burn up the muscle and so hard to gain it.
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TriBob
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posted May-03-2007 07:37 AM
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Originally posted by pcsronbo:
Serious:
Your body starts eating muscle for fuel to keep you going. You need to avoid this state as it is SO easy to burn up the muscle and so hard to gain it.
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LookiLoo
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posted May-03-2007 07:53 AM
This is a great thread - a lot of random questions I would never have thought to ask!Ok, pool question - last night I went to the pool to do my workout, and it was packed - unfortunately it was an 'open swim/lap swim' combo with only 2 lanes set aside for lap swimmers. So as you can imagine, there were at least 3 or 4 people at any given time taking up the lanes - we were circle swimming, but I feel like I was barely able to get a workout! It just so happened that a couple people in my lanes were dawdling along making it hard to keep any kind of rhythm. Aside from the obvious of going to the pool at less busy times, are there any tricks to getting in a good workout when you're packed in like sardines? I tried passing a few times which just seem to confuse the other swimmers, but I'm not even sure what the proper etiquette is in these situations. Thoughts?
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tithers
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posted May-03-2007 07:56 AM
I was told to touch their feet before passing.
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purple hayes
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posted May-03-2007 08:24 AM
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Originally posted by pcsronbo:
You need to avoid this state as it is SO easy to burn up the muscle and so hard to gain it.
See now, that's where you're wrong. 34 lbs. of muscle in 4 weeks with only 4 hrs. TOTAL in the gym. http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/04/29/from-geek-to-freak-how-i-gained-34-lbs-of-muscle-in-4-weeks/
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purple hayes
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posted May-03-2007 08:27 AM
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Originally posted by tithers:
I was told to touch their feet before passing.
I'd head butt you on the next lap if you did that to me.
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tithers
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posted May-03-2007 08:37 AM
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Originally posted by purple hayes:
I'd head butt you on the next lap if you did that to me.
Ummmm...if ya wore your new spidey mask that might crack my head open...then they'd have to clear the pool. You sure you wanna do that?
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LookiLoo
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posted May-03-2007 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by tithers:
I was told to touch their feet before passing.
I'm guessing this would confuse them even more
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DawnT
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posted May-03-2007 08:49 AM
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Originally posted by 4boysmom:
That sounds like what I had done for my custom bike. It was called the "Fit Kit". Perhaps it's the same thing? I've always been very comfortable on the bike--even riding 32weeks pregnant!What's the going price for a good fitting? Should that be part of the price of a new bike?
Yep, that sounds like the same thing. I would say the going price is between $50 and $100. The local tri shop here includes the fit in the price of a new bike, but I think you have to be careful. For every shop that knows how to do this, there are 2 or 3 others that just wing it. Ask other triathletes in your area to see where they got their fit done and if they're happy with it. I also want to add that I wasn't doing anything at 32 weeks pregnant, let alone riding a bike! Good for you!!
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DawnT
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posted May-03-2007 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by melistic:
TriBob,
I thoroughly enjoyed this thread. If you don't mind
you said:
"Muscles can only store a limited amount of glycogen. It needs to be replaced for longer events during the event itself. If not, you enter a catabolic state."in 60- 90 min? what happens to me in a catabolic state?
Here's my simplistic understanding of the process - someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Once you have used up the glycogen in your muscles you will bonk if your body can't make more. Your body has fat stores that can supply energy, but it needs carbohydrates in order to use those fat stores. I like the phrase "fat burns in a carbohydrate fire". If you take in carbs (ie. energy drinks, etc) then your body can convert the fat in your body for energy. The other reason to use an energy drink with workouts over 1 hour is to replace electrolytes lost while sweating.
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DawnT
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posted May-03-2007 08:58 AM
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Originally posted by LookiLoo:
Aside from the obvious of going to the pool at less busy times, are there any tricks to getting in a good workout when you're packed in like sardines? I tried passing a few times which just seem to confuse the other swimmers, but I'm not even sure what the proper etiquette is in these situations. Thoughts?
If I'm in a lane with slower swimmers (doesn't happen very often, but it does sometimes), then I usually wait until they are almost back to the starting point before taking off. That usually gives me a lot of room to catch up before having to worry about passing. If I'm in a lane with faster swimmers, then I take off immediately after they do so it's a long time for them to catch up to me. Most slower swimmers will let you pass when you get to either wall. Similarly, if a faster swimmer is behind me, then I'll let them pass at the wall. Lastly, I change lanes depending on what I'm doing. If I'm using a pull buoy or just kicking, then I move to a slower lane.
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4boysmom
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posted May-03-2007 10:09 AM
Looks like I might be getting a brand spankin' new Terry afterall... Hubby wants me to look at other bikes, too. Looks like 10 speed is standard now??? What happened to triples? And 6-7 on the rear? Or was more gears a status thing?If I do opt for the custom paint, any suggestions? I want to get comments as people go flying by me.
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jwcrew99
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posted May-03-2007 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by tithers:
I was told to touch their feet before passing.
First touch means, hey pick ip the pace I'm behind you Second touch means, hey I'm still here, at the next turn pause in the right corner and allow me to swim through.
It's really hard to pass in a lane while circle swimming due to swimming into the people coming in the opposite direction.
It also helps to get into a lane with people doing a similar workout and similar ability. Jon ------------------
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