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tithers
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 posted May-02-2007 02:39 PM
   
When going through a rolling water stop...IE you grab the bottles in the race...how fast are you biking at the grab?
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TriBob
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posted May-02-2007 02:50 PM
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Originally posted by tithers:
When going through a rolling water stop...IE you grab the bottles in the race...how fast are you biking at the grab?
17 mph. Just kidding, much slower probably 5-10. ------------------
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mbannon
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posted May-02-2007 02:55 PM
Huh? Who's handing out water bottles? Did I miss something important about long bike courses? What do you do with the bottle you started with? I always figured if you ran out of water you were either SOL or you had to stop to fill your bottle from a water cooler or something.------------------
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TriBob
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posted May-02-2007 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by mbannon:
Huh? Who's handing out water bottles? Did I miss something important about long bike courses? What do you do with the bottle you started with? I always figured if you ran out of water you were either SOL or you had to stop to fill your bottle from a water cooler or something.
Some oly's will have a bottle exchange, longer races will. You toss your old bottle and pick up a new one. There is usually water and a sports drink station. ------------------
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DawnT
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posted May-02-2007 03:03 PM
Most of the bigger races will have a bottle hand-off. Before you reach the aid station, you toss your empty bottle in a pile (you won't be getting it back). You indicate whether you want water or Gatorade (or whatever they're passing out on course). You slow down quite a bit - I slow down as much as possible while still going forward - put your hand out and grab the bottle that's being held by the volunteer. It's kind of fun, except when it doesn't work! Someone I know did the IM course in California that goes through the Camp Pendleton. He missed the bottle that was being passed to him and didn't want to stop, so just kept riding. The aide station was manned by a bunch of marines and some lowly private was the one who was passing the bottle. The sargent saw what happened and ordered the private (very loudly) to chase down the rider and get him the bottle. So, this marine had to sprint to catch up with the rider. He was in full fatigues and army boots. Apparently, the rider was quite surprised to see him catch up, but he was very happy to get the bottle.
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OonieBird
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posted May-02-2007 03:15 PM
picchk - You posted a question about being the slowest in a 5k at a bit over 11 minutes/mile. You got a response, but I imagine it didn't make you feel much better... You might be the slowest, you might be the last. There's also a good chance you'll be at the end of the midpack. See if you can find last year's times somewhere, that gives you a good idea of the field. But remember, when you race your pace picks up a bit, so I wouldn't assume you'll be on your regular pace. There is nothing wrong with being the last person to finish a race. There HAS to be a last person to finish a race. And if the group holding the race is at all dedicated to their sport they'll cheer you across the finish line and applaud your effort.
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mbannon
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posted May-02-2007 03:31 PM
At 11 min/mile you won't come in last.
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haley
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posted May-02-2007 03:52 PM
If I am capable, I would like to do a tri someday. I am a MAJOR newbie, as I am only in week 2 of the c25k plan and I just started biking as something to do on my rest days.
Is there a plan like the c25k for biking and swimming?
Of course I'm thinking of someday doing sprints, not the Ironman. Though the future is limitless.
LOL!!! I crack myself up...I can run for 90 whole seconds and yet I dream of completing a tri!
Advice and/or a point in the right direction is appreciated!------------------
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4boysmom
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posted May-02-2007 04:04 PM
haley--ya gotta start somewhere!As far as 11mm--my son did a 5mile race last month, and his pace was ~11mm. He was NOT last. There were runners behind him. Then, this month he 4mile race, and did an 8:24pace. I dunno, he's 14yo...
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IMgomie
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posted May-02-2007 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by haley:
If I am capable, I would like to do a tri someday. I am a MAJOR newbie, as I am only in week 2 of the c25k plan and I just started biking as something to do on my rest days.
Is there a plan like the c25k for biking and swimming?
Of course I'm thinking of someday doing sprints, not the Ironman. Though the future is limitless.
LOL!!! I crack myself up...I can run for 90 whole seconds and yet I dream of completing a tri!
Advice and/or a point in the right direction is appreciated!
psssssssst...we're having a CH party (aka a race and then lunch) in Palos Verdes next month and a lot of us are doing the 5K (others are doing the half marathon). You're more than welcome to join us and get your first 5K under your belt! 
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rockchalkchick
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posted May-02-2007 04:08 PM
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Originally posted by haley:
If I am capable, I would like to do a tri someday. I am a MAJOR newbie, as I am only in week 2 of the c25k plan and I just started biking as something to do on my rest days.
Is there a plan like the c25k for biking and swimming?
Of course I'm thinking of someday doing sprints, not the Ironman. Though the future is limitless.
LOL!!! I crack myself up...I can run for 90 whole seconds and yet I dream of completing a tri!
Advice and/or a point in the right direction is appreciated!
TriNewbies.com has a pretty good beginner "C25K" like guide, that should bring you to finishing a sprint-distance tri without collapsing. In theory, it could take you from no running all the way up to a sprint (though getting the running part down first is a good idea!). Here's the link.
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DawnT
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posted May-02-2007 04:08 PM
Haley - My advice is to finish the program you're on now. Once you can run for 30 minutes at a time, keep the running up and add in one day for biking and one day for swimming. Eventually, you'll want to add more, but that will get you started. If you're comfortable with that, then look around for try-a-tri's for sprint tris in your area. Sign up and commit yourself. You *can* do this. It really doesn't take that long to train for your first tri.
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HarryLime
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posted May-02-2007 05:55 PM
Aerobars Question:When I get back up to chicago for the summer, I will have access to a set of aerobars I had bought to put on my mountain bike back when I was in high school (yeah i know - i'm probably the only retard who would put these on an MTB). Anyways, I have 3 questions regarding going aero. First, if I'm only biking at about an average of 15-17 mph during a typical hour ride, would it make any difference to put these on my road bike? That is, if I average 15-17 mph now for an hour's ride, what improvement, if any, would I be looking at by going aero? Second, if I do decide to put them on my road bike, are they supposed to be parallel to the ground or are they supposed to be pointing slightly upwards? Also, do I have to move my seat either up or down, or forwards or backwards to accommodate the new position? Finally, how come when I watch the Tour de France on tv I see a lot of riders without aerobars? If using them is so aerodynamic and make you faster, why aren't many of these riders using them? Thanks.
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purple hayes
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posted May-02-2007 06:04 PM
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Finally, how come when I watch the Tour de France on tv I see a lot of riders without aerobars? If using them is so aerodynamic and make you faster, why aren't many of these riders using them?[/URL]
Aerobars aren't legal in the tour except for individual and team time trials.
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m843172
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posted May-02-2007 06:09 PM
I just completed my first tri this past Sun.
1:55 TT 450 swim, 15.5 bike, 5 mile runI felt good about it!!! I took Monday and Tuesday off to rest my legs etc. Wednesday 4 mile run. My legs are still sore and tight. Is this normal?? Should I have done something different after the race?? I am considering doing another in about 4 weeks so I want to try to figure this out. Thanks
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mbannon
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posted May-02-2007 06:14 PM
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Originally posted by m843172:
I just completed my first tri this past Sun.
1:55 TT 450 swim, 15.5 bike, 5 mile runI felt good about it!!! I took Monday and Tuesday off to rest my legs etc. Wednesday 4 mile run. My legs are still sore and tight. Is this normal?? Should I have done something different after the race?? I am considering doing another in about 4 weeks so I want to try to figure this out. Thanks
For my first workout after a race I usually do something light and easy like elliptical or a short, slow run just to get the kinks out. Yes it's normal for your legs to hurt after racing. If they don't, you didn't push hard enough. ------------------
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HarryLime
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posted May-02-2007 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by purple hayes:
Aerobars aren't legal in the tour except for individual and team time trials.
Interesting. That now explains why I rarely saw them used. Any reason behind this rule?
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tithers
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posted May-02-2007 06:29 PM
Heh....2 days after my century I ran 3 miles in the park...2 days AFTER it felt just like a BRICK! So-no, you're normal.
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DawnT
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posted May-02-2007 06:56 PM
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Any reason behind this rule?
It's not very safe to be drafting while on your aerobars.
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DawnT
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posted May-02-2007 07:02 PM
Aerobars Question:
First, if I'm only biking at about an average of 15-17 mph during a typical hour ride, would it make any difference to put these on my road bike?
You will get different answers to this question, but based on my own experience, you will definitely see a difference in your speed. I'm at about that average speed and it makes a huge difference when I'm down in my bars, especially on windy days.
That is, if I average 15-17 mph now for an hour's ride, what improvement, if any, would I be looking at by going aero?
I don't have any actual data for you because I'm just getting a bike computer put on my bike now, but I saw a John Cobb article once that said you'll get approximately a 1 mph improvement. That may not sound like much, but it's pretty much free speed.
Second, if I do decide to put them on my road bike, are they supposed to be parallel to the ground or are they supposed to be pointing slightly upwards? Also, do I have to move my seat either up or down, or forwards or backwards to accommodate the new position?
I'm not a fit expert. I got a professional fit done when I put on aerobars and it was really worth the money ($50). I feel so comfy and strong in my bars that I stay in them for most of my ride, even going uphill. My aerobars are parallel to the ground. When I got them put on, the fitter changed my stem and moved my seat forward. I really recommend getting a fit when you do this. It will save you lots of headaches.
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picchk
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posted May-02-2007 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by OonieBird:
See if you can find last year's times somewhere, that gives you a good idea of the field.
This race is actually held the 1st Sunday of every month in a local park and they advertise that it's good for newbies...I'm just nervous that I'll be the only newbie showing up Next question.... 2 of my toes have split open on the bottom side where my toes connect with my foot. I think I might have made it worse by running this weekend, but it seems like it's going to take forever to heal! Have you ever experienced this? What can you do to speed up the healing time? I really want to do the 5K this weekend, but also don't want to be out of workouts even longer....
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DawnT
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posted May-02-2007 07:48 PM
2 of my toes have split open on the bottom side where my toes connect with my foot. I think I might have made it worse by running this weekend, but it seems like it's going to take forever to heal! Have you ever experienced this? What can you do to speed up the healing time? My daughter has this problem on her 2nd toe on both feet. It seems to happen more in summer or whenever she's walking in bare feet alot. We found a moisturizer at the drug store that is specifically made for this. She puts it on at night and it seems to help. Look in the foot care aisle of any drug store.
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OonieBird
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posted May-02-2007 07:51 PM
I'd just pile on the neosporin, change socks regularly and run through unless it's unbearable. Things that aren't muscle/bone related usually don't keep me from running. I would try to figure out how it happened, because if it's related to your shoes/socks it'll just keep happening and that will suck.
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HarryLime
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posted May-02-2007 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by DawnT:
I'm not a fit expert. I got a professional fit done when I put on aerobars and it was really worth the money ($50). I feel so comfy and strong in my bars that I stay in them for most of my ride, even going uphill. My aerobars are parallel to the ground. When I got them put on, the fitter changed my stem and moved my seat forward. I really recommend getting a fit when you do this. It will save you lots of headaches.
Thanx again for the helpful advice Dawn. A follow-up though. Is the professional bike fit geared more towards making sure your seat, handlebars, and stem are adjusted to the aerobars, or is the setting of the aerobars themselves what's important? Reason I ask is that the way I put my bike into the backseat of my sedan would require me to take off the aerobars each time I transport the bike. I wanna make sure doing this wouldn't defeat the purpose of the professional fit.
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jwcrew99
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posted May-02-2007 08:28 PM
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Interesting. That now explains why I rarely saw them used. Any reason behind this rule?
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