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mbannon
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posted May-08-2007 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mbannon   Click Here to Email mbannon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeftRightRepeat:
I just use my watch. I hit the plsit button after each lap. Not only does it give me a lap count - but, later, I get time and splits to boot!!!



Now that's a good idea. What kind of watch? Timex Ironman? I assume by your post that it displays your lap number continuously while you're in lap mode?

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LookiLoo
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posted May-08-2007 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LookiLoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeftRightRepeat:
I just use my watch. I hit the plsit button after each lap. Not only does it give me a lap count - but, later, I get time and splits to boot!!!



Doh, I can't believe I didn't think of this. For whatever reason (I think I received it as a gift somewhere along the way...) I have a timex ironman stuffed in the back of a drawer somewhere. I never saw any reason to use this as I have a watch I already use for running, but it looks like I have something that will count for me! Thank you! Now I'll just have to remember to use that split button....

Is there any end to the toys you can buy for this sport?

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mbannon
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posted May-08-2007 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mbannon   Click Here to Email mbannon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LookiLoo:

Is there any end to the toys you can buy for this sport?

No.

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jwcrew99
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posted May-08-2007 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwcrew99   Click Here to Email jwcrew99     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeftRightRepeat:
I just use my watch. I hit the plsit button after each lap. Not only does it give me a lap count - but, later, I get time and splits to boot!!!


Also washes the stank from running out of the nylon bands

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LeftRightRepeat
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posted May-08-2007 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeftRightRepeat   Click Here to Email LeftRightRepeat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LookiLoo:
Now I'll just have to remember to use that split button....

It's the "plsit" button.

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Ella
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posted May-08-2007 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ella     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeftRightRepeat:
It's the "plsit" button.



I'm taking my timex back - it didn't come with that button

Ella

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triandstopme
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posted May-09-2007 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for triandstopme   Click Here to Email triandstopme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just remember to hit the split (or plits) button while the watch is out of the water. The watch will survive much longer that way.

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LookiLoo
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posted May-09-2007 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LookiLoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeftRightRepeat:
It's the "plsit" button.


I wondered for a second what that was...some new special tri thing that everyone knows about except me

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jkv135
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posted May-09-2007 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jkv135   Click Here to Email jkv135     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you wear a chip in a race - why are there always 2 mats you have to cross? Never got that.

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DawnT
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posted May-09-2007 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DawnT   Click Here to Email DawnT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkv135:
When you wear a chip in a race - why are there always 2 mats you have to cross? Never got that.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by 2 mats. Do you mean 2 different places where you go over mats or 2 mats at the same time?

Most races that have chip timing will have a mat at the entrance/exit to the transition area as well as the finish. Some have them at the 1/2 way point of the bike and/or run. That way, you can get splits for each part of the race as well as your transition times.

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mbannon
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posted May-09-2007 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mbannon   Click Here to Email mbannon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by triandstopme:
Just remember to hit the split (or plits) button while the watch is out of the water. The watch will survive much longer that way.

You'd think the watch would be a bit more robust than that. Hm. I do flip turns, so...maybe I'll just stick with the alphabet system.

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LeftRightRepeat
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posted May-09-2007 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeftRightRepeat   Click Here to Email LeftRightRepeat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkv135:
When you wear a chip in a race - why are there always 2 mats you have to cross? Never got that.

There are not always two... But when there are, it's usually the first one that counts. The second one is backup in case of failure. Most popular failure causes are too much water (in a rainy race) and battery failure (particularly in cold weather). If the first mat fails, the operator will switch over to the second. But, since you never really know if they've switched over or not - make sure you go hard through the second mat. See also here.

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teacherjen05
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posted May-09-2007 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teacherjen05   Click Here to Email teacherjen05     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Using your Timex Ironman for swim splits can be a problem....I'm on my third one in a bit more than a year b/c of doing this. I finally read the directions, and it says your watch only stays water tight if you DO NOT push any buttons under water. My first two watches died of corrosion due to water getting in.

So now I use the alphabet thing too...

Looki-- One thing I do for my 400 or 500 m warm ups is to do each 4th length as a drill-- for some reason it's easier to remember what number I'm on. So each length of drill finishes up a 100.

-Jen

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LeftRightRepeat
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posted May-09-2007 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeftRightRepeat   Click Here to Email LeftRightRepeat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by teacherjen05:
Using your Timex Ironman for swim splits can be a problem....I'm on my third one in a bit more than a year b/c of doing this. I finally read the directions, and it says your watch only stays water tight if you DO NOT push any buttons under water. My first two watches died of corrosion due to water getting in.

Walmart will sell you a 50 lap watch for < $20. If you do more than 50 laps, ask the lifeguard to remind you that you're on your second 50. If the watch carps out after four months - buy another one. (I've been in the pool for about a year now with mine... No failure yet. They also say you void the water resistance warranty if you change your own battery - but I do that too. Then there's that other dubious rule about going blind if you don't stop... Oh, nevermind.)

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HarryLime
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posted May-09-2007 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HarryLime     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anyone recommend a solid bike maintenance book to me? Besides the basics (changing flat, cleaning bike, tightening loose crap) I'm pretty much clueless when it comes to the more complicated areas of the bike (chain, cogs, derailleur, etc.). Although this post is helpful, I think I need some longer, more basic explanations w/ pictures. Thanks.


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TriBob
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posted May-09-2007 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TriBob   Click Here to Email TriBob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HarryLime:
Can anyone recommend a solid bike maintenance book to me? Besides the basics (changing flat, cleaning bike, tightening loose crap) I'm pretty much clueless when it comes to the more complicated areas of the bike (chain, cogs, derailleur, etc.). Although this post is helpful, I think I need some longer, more basic explanations w/ pictures. Thanks.


Edited to fix broken hyperlink.


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Zinn and the Art of Road Bike Maintenance by Lennard Zinn

The Bicycling Guide to Complete Bicycle Maintenance and Repair: For Road and Mountain Bikes by Todd Downs

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HarryLime
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posted May-09-2007 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HarryLime     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TriBob:
Zinn and the Art of Road Bike Maintenance by Lennard Zinn

The Bicycling Guide to Complete Bicycle Maintenance and Repair: For Road and Mountain Bikes by Todd Downs



Wow - that was quick. Thanks TriBob. Time to head to Amazon now.


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imsoslow
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posted May-09-2007 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for imsoslow   Click Here to Email imsoslow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, I'll go...
In running races, number bib goes in front or slightly to the side. But on the bike, the bib is on the back. How does this work in a tri/duathlon? Are you given one bib and you switch it around? I can't imagine being nervous and fumbling with safety pins.

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purple hayes
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posted May-09-2007 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for purple hayes   Click Here to Email purple hayes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Number goes on the front so the finish line photographer knows who's in each picture.

They write your number on your left shoulder so the course marshal will know who you are if you are penalized.

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DawnT
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posted May-09-2007 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DawnT   Click Here to Email DawnT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, it's kind of a strange rule with the race bibs. The number is supposed to be in the back on the bike and the front on the run. Most people use a race belt so they can easily shift it around back to front when they start the run.

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TriBob
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posted May-09-2007 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TriBob   Click Here to Email TriBob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by imsoslow:
OK, I'll go...
In running races, number bib goes in front or slightly to the side. But on the bike, the bib is on the back. How does this work in a tri/duathlon? Are you given one bib and you switch it around? I can't imagine being nervous and fumbling with safety pins.

Pinning it to a race belt helps a lot. Just turn it around for the run. Extra tip, wrinkle it before you attach it. It stops the annoying flapping.

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mbannon
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posted May-09-2007 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mbannon   Click Here to Email mbannon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by imsoslow:
OK, I'll go...
In running races, number bib goes in front or slightly to the side. But on the bike, the bib is on the back. How does this work in a tri/duathlon? Are you given one bib and you switch it around? I can't imagine being nervous and fumbling with safety pins.

Get a race belt. Very handy. Bib number attaches to belt, belt goes on whichever way you want. Spin it around when you start running.

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nepbug
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posted May-09-2007 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nepbug     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, I've got one:

What the heck are those velcro bits that come with an Aerodrink used for?

I'm thinking of using them to help dampen the rattle out... or will buying the mounting bracket take care of that?

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thirdtimeisacharm
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posted May-09-2007 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirdtimeisacharm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Late entry for dumb newbie questions...

When does the swim time stop and T1 start? When you exit the water or actually enter the transition area? Same for T2 issues?

Hal

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melonella
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posted May-09-2007 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for melonella   Click Here to Email melonella     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by thirdtimeisacharm:
Late entry for dumb newbie questions...

When does the swim time stop and T1 start? When you exit the water or actually enter the transition area? Same for T2 issues?

Hal


It's whatever the timing company decides. There can be a fair amount of variation from race to race. Some only have 3 splits with T1/T2 factored into either swim, bike, or run. Some have all 5 splits (swim, t1, bike, t2, run) but have varying mat placement. I think the most common placement I've seen, though, has swim split being the time you spent from wave start until entry in T1 (which can sometimes include rather lengthy runs from the water to the transition area). If there's 5 splits, then T2 split isn't as much of an issue since the dismount line for the bike is usually pretty close to the T2 entrance -- so it's T2 entrance to T2 exit.

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