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spinach
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 posted Sep-08-2007 01:23 PM
  
I don't feel that I am in the shape that I wanted to be in for the marathon and so i may have to adjust my goals somewhat for the race. Tomroow I will get an indication of how I am going when I run the City of Lakes 25k. Is anyone else running that one? ------------------
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hermosaboy
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posted Sep-08-2007 06:00 PM
I will be there...
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spinach
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posted Sep-09-2007 04:29 PM
Well, the City of Lakes 25k went a lot better than I expected, so I may need to readjust my goals for the Twin Cities again. It seems I didn't lose as much speed as I feared I did from the down time after getting hurt in Fargo. I hit the half marathon mark in the race today right at 1:25 and although I was slowed a lot the last two miles by a terrible side stitch (where did that come from?) I managed to finish the race in just under 1:42, a new PR about a minute better than my time last year in this race. Maybe I will try to give three hours a shot at the TCM after all. ------------------
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PacerChris
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posted Sep-09-2007 07:43 PM
Anyone planning on running in the 3:10 group - I'll be your fearless leader. I'm really looking forward to it - I've heard nothing but great things about Twin Cities (except a few late hills!) I had originally been scheduled for St. George but got switched to TC.------------------
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hermosaboy
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posted Sep-09-2007 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by PacerChris:
Anyone planning on running in the 3:10 group - I'll be your fearless leader. I'm really looking forward to it - I've heard nothing but great things about Twin Cities (except a few late hills!) I had originally been scheduled for St. George but got switched to TC.
I will cheer for you as you come by -- just running the 10 miler this year. Those late hills are really a pain to me!!! Don't try to bank time though. Although the hills are nothing major, the are persistent and will definitely drag you down. Last year, I was on pace for 2:54 (and trained to run that) until I hit the hill leading to Saint Thomas. Gave back 5 minutes over the last few miles...
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steverino
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posted Sep-10-2007 08:17 AM
I've been on the fence about whether to start with the 3:10 group or not. I'm not entirely confident I have it in me, but I've been running well lately, especially at the temps and dewpoints have fallen in the last few days. I'll have to see how my 20 mile race goes this weekend. But, if I do decide to go out with the 3:10 crowd, I'll know we'll be in good hands.
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Docster
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posted Sep-10-2007 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by PacerChris:
Anyone planning on running in the 3:10 group - I'll be your fearless leader. I'm really looking forward to it - I've heard nothing but great things about Twin Cities (except a few late hills!) I had originally been scheduled for St. George but got switched to TC.
Man...now *this* is tempting. I ran a 1:31:55 HM in Viriginia Beach a week ago Sunday. I believe I could have gone sub 1:31 if I had paced myself to do so. However, your half split would be around 1:34, right PacerChris? My main goal is a sub 3:16 for my BQ, but I feel like with a good taper I could get close to 3:10. Probably not worth going out too fast and blowing up, however. 
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runninlaw
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posted Sep-10-2007 04:49 PM
I wish I was planning to run 3:10! Nope, I am hoping for 3:25 so I am on my own. What is your plan for pacing Chris? How do you think you are going to attack the hills? I have been trying to figure out my race plan. They look pretty bad - especially the 2 mile uphill at 20.5ish....
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spinach
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posted Sep-10-2007 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by runninlaw:
I wish I was planning to run 3:10! Nope, I am hoping for 3:25 so I am on my own. What is your plan for pacing Chris? How do you think you are going to attack the hills? I have been trying to figure out my race plan. They look pretty bad - especially the 2 mile uphill at 20.5ish....
The marathon's web site has suggestions for pacing for the course. http://www.mtcmarathon.org/Marathon/PaceCharts.cfm
To get an idea for a pace to handle the hill up to St. Thomas (that one is short but tough) and then the hill up Summit Ave for 3:25 try to take the average of the 3:20 pace chart and the 3:30 pace chart. Notice they suggest that you build in a cushion for over the first 20 miles so that you can slow down a bit going up the hill. Good luck. ------------------
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PacerChris
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posted Sep-10-2007 07:38 PM
That is also going to be my plan of attack - a few easy miles to wrm up, then try build up to 60 seconds (maybe a little more - nee some perspective from the pacers who have done TC before) by mile 20. I certainly will not attack the hills - if we can get 60-80 seconds in the bank, we could give back 20-30 seconds each of the 2 miles and still have a little cushion to pay with (plus the 59 seconds the BAA gives you - don't forget that!)------------------
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Docster
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posted Sep-11-2007 10:41 AM
Generally speaking, attacking hills is definitely not the way to go. (not talking about elites and their surge strategies, etc) It's better to maintain intensity of effort, which means slowing down some uphill, and speeding up downhill. Of course, that's easier said that done at times....
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PacerChris
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posted Sep-11-2007 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by Docster:
Generally speaking, attacking hills is definitely not the way to go. (not talking about elites and their surge strategies, etc) It's better to maintain intensity of effort, which means slowing down some uphill, and speeding up downhill. Of course, that's easier said that done at times....
I could shred the entire group by attacking on the hills! Boy, wouldn't our team coordinator get some interesting emails then - "We were running a steady pace of 7:15 and the first uphill climb he dropped down to 6:10!!"
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Docster
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posted Sep-13-2007 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by PacerChris:
I could shred the entire group by attacking on the hills! Boy, wouldn't our team coordinator get some interesting emails then - "We were running a steady pace of 7:15 and the first uphill climb he dropped down to 6:10!!"
Haha, yeah. Drop the hammer at mile 21 at this race and see how many go with you. 
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joplus
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posted Sep-13-2007 07:04 PM
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Originally posted by PacerChris:
Anyone planning on running in the 3:10 group - I'll be your fearless leader. I'm really looking forward to it - I've heard nothing but great things about Twin Cities (except a few late hills!) I had originally been scheduled for St. George but got switched to TC.
I'll be there, going for 3:10. I'll be the masters lady in the running outfit.
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hermosaboy
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posted Sep-14-2007 09:19 PM
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Originally posted by joplus:
I'll be there, going for 3:10. I'll be the masters lady in the running outfit.
That narrows it down...
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runninlaw
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posted Sep-14-2007 09:30 PM
Yeah, she'll be the one kickin all the master's ladies @sses. You won't miss her!
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joplus
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posted Sep-15-2007 05:50 AM
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Yeah, she'll be the one kickin all the master's ladies @sses. You won't miss her!
umm, according to the press release, Susan Loken is hoping to better her PR of 2:41. So there's at least one @ss I won't be kickin' I'll be happy if I can finish 30min behind her.
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runninlaw
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posted Sep-16-2007 02:00 PM
Yeah, well get technical on me! I think twin cities is actually the masters championships isn't it?
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joplus
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posted Sep-16-2007 06:57 PM
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Yeah, well get technical on me! I think twin cities is actually the masters championships isn't it?
Yes indeed it is. There will be a lot of very fast masters there.
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hermosaboy
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posted Sep-16-2007 08:49 PM
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Yes indeed it is. There will be a lot of very fast masters there.
Sweet -- FAST experienced women!!! I love it!!!
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Tuffonfeet
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posted Sep-18-2007 06:41 PM
come one boys, keep it clean! Good Luck to the TCMers! Wish I was going to be there, OK not really! After 3 years in a row I'm looking forward to a different one.
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hermosaboy
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posted Sep-18-2007 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by Tuffonfeet:
come one boys, keep it clean! Good Luck to the TCMers! Wish I was going to be there, OK not really! After 3 years in a row I'm looking forward to a different one.
Where you going Scott???
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fiatsrcool
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posted Sep-19-2007 04:49 PM
Here is the course change for the TC10. They will be putting us back on the parkway right before the big hill.http://www.mapmyrun.com/run/united-states/mn/minneapolis/86061636 Joseph ------------------
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Tuffonfeet
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posted Sep-19-2007 09:01 PM
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Where you going Scott???
I'm hoping about 15 minutes behind you!
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hermosaboy
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posted Sep-19-2007 09:34 PM
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I'm hoping about 15 minutes behind you!
I think you will be closer than that! This course isn't like Lumberjack. It's more uphill than downhill... You'd think with the course change that they would try to even that out, but no!
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