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CIM viewed from the middle of the pack

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Fortunate One
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posted Dec-05-2007 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fortunate One   Click Here to Email Fortunate One     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
California International Marathon, Sacramento
2 Dec. 2007
An epic tale with injury, enough mistakes to keep up the suspense, and ultimate triumph

For a view from the front of the pack, see Jim's excellent RR.

Just the facts:
3:43:41, PR (by 3 min, 45 s), BQ
1593/4743 OA
54/208 55-59 AG

When last we saw our Hero, he had just completed a marathon in mid-October in a little over 3:50. This finishing time qualified him for Boston in 2009, by which time he will have turned 60. Stubborn as he is, he wanted to try once more to qualify for Boston '08, which would require a 3:45:59 or better. After examining possible races, he settled on CIM, advertised as the "fastest course in the West." There is a 340' drop in elevation from the start in Folsom to the finish next to the Capitol. Moderate "rollers" along the way seemed much nicer than the huge hill he had climbed in October. Also, relatives in Sacramento could provide support.

In addition to picking a relatively flat course, I did several things that I thought would improve my chances of BQing. I couldn't do a 4-month training plan, of course, but I got in long runs of 16 and 20 miles, then a 3-week taper. I ate a protein-rich diet 4-6 days out and carbo loaded 1-3 days prior to race day. Little mileage during the last week, when "all you can do is hurt yourself." Checked out GU2O, the course hydration drink. Traveled on Thursday of the previous week, feasted at Bistro Jeanty (Yountville, in the Napa Valley) on Friday. In the race, GU at miles 0, 5, 10, 15, 18, and 22. ~8 oz. of liquid at 16 of the 18 aid stations (I estimate that I lost 11 lb. throught sweat and gained 8 through drinking).

I met Jim (soooo fast, and only 2 years older than I--how humbling) at the Expo and we enjoyed Dick Beardsley's talk (my brother took pictures but I haven't seen them yet). I met the 3:45 pacer and resolved to stick with him until mile 22, when I would surge ahead if I felt energetic. I spent time with my brother's family that day, eating and visiting the Train Museum in Old Sacramento (I walked the 10 blocks there, which could count as a mistake).

On race day, I awoke at 3 a.m., had coffee, a breakfast cookie, and oatmeal with brown sugar, then got a ride downtown to the line of buses (~5:30 a.m. departure). I was happy to see 45F on the car's thermometer; the clouds had moved in and it never got down to the predicted 38F. After a 40-minute ride to the start, I got in a short portajohn line, then got on one of the buses to stay warm. I had a nice chat with someone in my AG who was also trying to qualify (he did). With 25 minutes to go, I got in a long portajohn line, and got out just minutes before the gun. Sweats into the bag and tossed onto the truck, but no time to worm my way up to my pace group (almost 3,000 relay runners in additin to almost 5,000 marathoners). When the gun went off, I was well behind the 6:00 group. In the first couple of miles, I worked my way up to the 3:45 group, thereby going out faster than planned (~8:00 m/M on my Garmin) and taking almost 2 m longer to hit the start mat than they did. This could have been a mistake, but McMillan keeps telling me I can run a faster marathon than 3:45, so I wasn't too worried. After catching up with the group, I never left them for long (I walked through aid stations, so I fell a little behind at each one). At mile 20, I missed a second cup of water and, a few seconds later, took a cup (from a HH Harrier?) that looked like a water cup even after being told it was beer (I figured that any diuretic effect wouldn't hurt me during the race). At mile 22, my HR was right around 160, about 92% of max, and I did not feel like surging. I knew I had it in the bag if I could just keep the pacer in sight. In my previous three marathons, I have felt tired, sore, and slow (sound familiar?) in the last 4 miles, and this one was no exception. In those, my HR has been closer to 145-150. This day, I was able to keep it close to 160 for the remainder of the race and I came in not too far behind the pacer. Was it the lack of big hills, a bump from the previous marathon, all that GU, the constant hydration, the good crowd support over the last few miles? Who knows? I remember thinking, if I get this done, I'll never have to do a marathon this fast again.

Confident in my BQ (gun time was 3:46:31, I think), I tried to reassure my relatives that I had in fact achieved my goal. I grabbed a water bottle, tried unsuccessfully to unscrew the cap, then got help. Some time later, I had pain and swelling in my wrist, which must have happened when I tried to unscrew the cap. At least this mistake didn't cost me any time! I enjoyed a cup of hot lentil soup and half a banana (not the most lavish spread, but adequate). The last bit of drama was when I changed back into my sweats and needed help getting my shoes on--my calf muscles almost cramped up. The human body can be so fragile and yet is capable of so much.

Thanks for all the help and support along the way, CR Boomers. On to Boston

ETA: Helen Klein, 85, set a new world record in her AG by finishing in 5:48:59
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ptbrown
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posted Dec-05-2007 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ptbrown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Way To Go!

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Jim24315
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posted Dec-05-2007 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim24315   Click Here to Email Jim24315     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice race Fortunate One,

You had everything figured to a T. I checked the results and saw that you ran the 2nd half at almost exactly the same pace as the first. I don't know where those short portajohn lines that you found were. The one I got in was so long that I finally gave up.

That was a nice PR for you, especially considering that you are on far north end of your age group. You would have been in top 13% of 60-64. This was the last race in the PAUSATF Grand Prix series, in case you didn't know. They always draw a stronger crowd in the masters divisions than most races.

I didn't find the course so easy, despite the net elevation loss. I'd take a flat course any day of the week. My legs were trash by half way. I checked splits of some other runners I know and quite a few of them slowed a lot over the 2nd half, the same as I did. You ran a smart race.

Congratulations on a job well done. It was a pleasure meeting you at the expo.

Jim

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mcsolar99
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posted Dec-05-2007 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mcsolar99   Click Here to Email mcsolar99     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
great job fortunate one! sounds like a very successful race, and those "mistakes" of yours seem like non-issues. (although personally, i plant my a$$ on the couch most of the day before a race )

in a month, you'll be thinking about a faster marathon, i have no doubt about that.

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posted Dec-05-2007 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tagcaver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A BQ is a BQ. Congratulations!

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smpankowski
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posted Dec-06-2007 06:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for smpankowski   Click Here to Email smpankowski     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sweet!!!! I loved the way you started your recounting. Thanks for the RR. waiting for your Boston thread.

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Rich in NH
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posted Dec-06-2007 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rich in NH   Click Here to Email Rich in NH     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Fortunate One, you've obviously been working hard to get this done, congratulations on an awesome run and BQ!

Well done!!

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Twocat
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posted Dec-06-2007 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twocat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stubborn has its value! Excellent job on the race. Enjoy basking in the light of your new PR and BQ time.

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perchcreek
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posted Dec-06-2007 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for perchcreek   Click Here to Email perchcreek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fortunate One! You ARE Fortunate! I've been waiting on the edge of my chair for your report! What a thrill to see you smashed the 3:45... by a good margin! Congratulations!! See you in Boston!! It will be special with the Women's Olympic Trials on Sunday!

As I read your RR I beceme more and more confident you'd do it. The fueling (6 gels) and hydration were spot on. I was hoping you would not need e-caps and you had no cramping. You trained very smart for this and built upon your last training cycle... nice. Now enjoy, rest up with a conservative reverse taper.. then...Boston training!

Steve

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Spareribs
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posted Dec-06-2007 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spareribs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're a pretty determined guy to try to better your BQ, and then you went out and did it. Very nice job. Glad to hear you met the speedy Jim, one of my favorite runners in this forum. We heard Dick Beardsley speak at Omaha a couple of years ago. Quite a story he had to tell. Great report. Spareribs

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tselbs
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posted Dec-06-2007 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tselbs   Click Here to Email tselbs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great running, Fortunate. You were prepared and ran a consistent, solid, race. Congrats on the PR and BQ.

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huskydon
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posted Dec-06-2007 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for huskydon   Click Here to Email huskydon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congratulations, Fortunate One! another race, another BQ. You ran the race I hope to race someday, to qualify for Boston. You are a swift one, certainly. Nice report too, enjoy the writing style immensely.

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Ileneforward
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posted Dec-06-2007 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ileneforward     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The most exciting part for me is that you will be at Boston in '08!! Great job, perfect pacing, and you will get even faster too. Congratulations! Take care of that wrist; no more screw top bottles for a while.

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hollys4874
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posted Dec-06-2007 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hollys4874   Click Here to Email hollys4874     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fortunate One – Congratulations on your 2008 BQ and huge PR! I’m so glad that you got your 2008 BQ so I can get a chance to meet you. Maybe if we’re in the same corral, we could run a couple miles together, before you leave me in the dust.

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evanflein
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posted Dec-06-2007 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for evanflein     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And our hero prevails! Nice job, Fortunate One! You ran a very good race despite getting left at the start by your pacer group. They turned out to be a good target though, right? See you in Boston!

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Fortunate One
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posted Dec-06-2007 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fortunate One   Click Here to Email Fortunate One     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Boomers. I look forward to meeting Steve and the Boomer goddesses. Holly, I'll be running Boston for fun, so no worries about any dust. If I happen to get ahead of you, just look for me on the sidelines on the right side of the road when you get close to Wellesley College.

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RunsTheBitterroot
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posted Dec-06-2007 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunsTheBitterroot   Click Here to Email RunsTheBitterroot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Fortunate one! Great job on your marathon and congratulations on getting a pr and BQ. Larry

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posted Dec-07-2007 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hup   Click Here to Email hup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Man, great race. Sounds like you were IN charge.
You'll need to share your secret with me though .... I've run CIM 4 times and have never gotten close to an even split
Congrats
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evryday
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posted Dec-07-2007 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for evryday   Click Here to Email evryday     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very nice race....congratulations! I enjoyed the RR read.

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Elaine3112
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posted Dec-07-2007 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elaine3112   Click Here to Email Elaine3112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congratulations on getting your BQ fortunate one. Rest up and enjoy the recovery and think of Boston! Well done.

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Fortunate One
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posted Dec-07-2007 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fortunate One   Click Here to Email Fortunate One     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hup:
... You'll need to share your secret with me though .... I've run CIM 4 times and have never gotten close to an even split ...

Thanks, hup. Here's the secret. Run with a pacer and don't leave him/her. Take plenty of gels along the way and drink as much as your body can take in (~a quart an hour). It helps to have an iron stomach.

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charleygross
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posted Dec-08-2007 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charleygross   Click Here to Email charleygross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Way to BQ!! Enjoyed reading your report as well. Congratulations Fortunate!

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Jim24315
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posted Dec-08-2007 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim24315   Click Here to Email Jim24315     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fortunate One:
Thanks, hup. Here's the secret. Run with a pacer and don't leave him/her. Take plenty of gels along the way and drink as much as your body can take in (~a quart an hour). It helps to have an iron stomach.

You've got me thinking about this. Wish I would have stuck with a pacer. The 3:10 group passed me during last mile like I was standing still and ended up with something in 3:08's. I guess they will go a little faster than goal during the last couple miles as long is the group is holding together. I might experiment with some gels in coming months too, although I've got just the opposite of an "iron stomach".

"I remember thinking, if I get this done, I'll never have to do a marathon this fast again."

Don't stop trying to get faster just because you are moving up to the the REALLY old men's AG. Your running age counts more than chronological so far a potential improvement goes.

Good luck in your next one.

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Fortunate One
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posted Dec-08-2007 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fortunate One   Click Here to Email Fortunate One     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jim24315:
You've got me thinking about this. Wish I would have stuck with a pacer...

Pacers make mistake, too. Here is an example from last year's CIM. In hindsight, I should have been checking my pace in the last couple of miles, because my pacer had slowed (I only realized this when I saw the clock at the finish line). Good luck figuring this stuff out, Jim.

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