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Seattle Marathon... and other stuff (long)


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evanflein
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posted Nov-26-2007 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for evanflein     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This was my 4th marathon this year, 4th in 4 months actually. As such, I wasn't really focusing on a time goal but I did have some ideas. But lately, these marathon outings for me have almost become more about the boomer get-togethers the night before than the actual race. Imagine that. This one was no disappointment in that regard.

I left at "oh-dark-ugly" as my DH calls the 7 am Saturday flight out of Fairbanks, but it was on time (early actually) and a direct to Seattle so was there with bag in hand by noon. Headed to the Westin to get my stuff, wandered around the Expo for awhile, bought stuff, ate stuff, sat down to look thru my stuff. Tet called a couple of times to check on me, and got me in touch with Mariposai to arrange our meeting spot. She and her DH swung by to grab me before we went to our hotel, checked in, dropped off her DH and we did a quick walk back to the Westin (what's this about staying off your feet before a marathon??). I love hanging out with this woman; she's so vibrant and full of positive energy.

We met up with divechief and arf (another gorgeous boomer goddess), got Mariposai's packet, breezed thru the Expo looking for shorts and such, and headed back to the hotel for a pre-dinner glass of wine... this wonderful stuff Mariposai found, it's lovely! Then off to dinner... a sort of Pink Door wannabe expedition (in the Pink Door tradition, but venue changed due to crowd logistics).

Walking in the door, we found most of our party was already there...but wait... who is that? "Is that Dark Horse??" asks Mariposai... well yes it is. I thought she was going to faint. It was like old friends reuniting.... The connection one builds over mate, I swear.

arf and econo weren't about to let go... Divechief had to sit on the end and watch.

Other attendees...
iapetus, enkephalin, mariposai and yours truly...

I don't seem to have pictures of rasmussenmp or his lovely wife, Dove and the DH... Nor Tet and his friend, but I think others got those (right Mariposai?). I did get to talk to DH for a bit, which was great. And don't let him fool you, he's very nice in person...

(that is rasmussenmp's DW in the corner trying to hide...) Love the walls at this place, with the wires strung all over and the crooked pictures. Oh well.

Race Day (sorry, no more pics)
We got up at 6 and I peeked out the window to see dry pavement... Yeah! We scrounged breakfast and debated staying a bit, asking for late checkout or just leaving. The last option was the winner (snarky front desk staff... late checkout really not an option, grrrr). Showers after the race would have to be decided later.

Fashion report: nothing exciting... black Brooks tights, dark grey/blue long-sleeved tech shirt, poly-pro Manzella gloves, Nordstrom running socks and Asics Nimbus 9's.

Tetsujin came by to get us and we jogged over to the start and clothing drop. Visited the "Honey Buckets" and went to line up. I decided to try running with the 3:45 pace group to start, but was concerned that was just a bit too ambitious for this course. I did get a nice shot of the Space Needle shrouded in light fog on my cell phone, but can't get the picture off it to post. After a better-than-usual rendition of the National Anthem, we were off and slowly made our way to the mat. The 3:45 pacer guys seemed to take off pretty quickly, I found it almost hard to keep up at first but that was partially due to various elbows and feet I kept running into. I think they went too fast (8:15) up that first hill after mile 1, and then seemed to slow down for the dowhill. Well, that was highly annoying so, remembering what Arf and I had talked about the night before (let gravity do your work!) I took off down the hill. All systems "Go" and everything felt greta so far. I just decided to run by feel for the most part, it was a gorgeous day in Seattle and I was soaking it all in.

My Garmin kept saying I was going "too fast" but I felt really strong, so kept at 8:15 to 8:25 most of the time. The big freeway ramp Enke talked about slowed everyone down a bit, but it felt pretty good. The tunnel was hot and stuffy, and Garmin said "see you on the other side" and never really did figure out the rest of the course. The bridge out to Mercer Island was beautiful, I was just like a tourist and waving at all the cars that honked. Turnaround at 10k mark went well, but a little slick with all the water cups. I struggled to get my Gu out and gave up, I'm just not very coordinated with that stuff. (any tips on HOW you pull out your Gu or electrolyte caps while you're running so you don't get wet, sticky or tripped up would be appreciated)

I met Mariposai and Tet on the way back (they were running together at that point) and at mile 8 we veer off into Seward Park. Got my Gu act together for that water stop. The Seward Park loop is beautiful, did I mention it was a perfect day? Lots of signs on the side for poison oak, and since I'd never seen it I wanted to pull over and go look, but I didn't. I'm getting better at not sight-seeing or berry picking on actual races...

Half marathon split was 1:49:39... oops. that's just 3 minutes off my HM PR so I got the message I might be going too fast. But... like I said, I was going by feel and I felt greta! I was about 3 minutes ahead of my 3:45 pace chart which I had tucked in my pack. Cool, cuz I planned on walking some of the hills later on. Met Mariposai again on the way back out of Seward Park, and Tet a little while later. Both got the high five and WooHoo yell... I never did see (or recognize) divechief or arf...

It was about mile 18 I think where I was running along and Wham! Felt like I stepped on a nail! It was a cramp in my right foot. Argh that hurt. I had to walk to stretch it out, then took off again, now a bit slower but still around 8:35 m/m which was right on pace. But the hills made the cramp worse, and I did have to walk more than I wanted to. I'd been drinking at almost every stop, took e-caps when I could dig them out (how do you guys do that??), took Gu at start and about every 45 mins-hour after that, but still the cramps in my foot.

The last hill just before the finish really sucked. I told myself no walking the last mile, but I had to do a couple walk steps up that thing. Then a turn into the stadium and a sprint across the lovely, soft, cushy turf to the finish.
Gun time 3:50:12
Chip time 3:49:43
7th out of 402 in Age Group.
Using either gun time or chip time, it's a new PR (my Aug. time was 3:52 something), and my 3rd BQ time this year. Missed my 3:45 sekrit goal, but that's ok. I think the hard surface (concrete and asphalt) really took it out of me; I really prefer trails. Afterwards, the only thing that hurt was my feet.

I waited for Mariposai and gave a hugh yell when I saw her, ran along the outside of the chute yelling "Go! Go! Go!" the whole way. I'm sure all the bystanders thought I was nuts. Met up with divechief, waited for Tet and arf and then we were all a reunited boomer group again!

After a shower and supper at Mariposai's wonderful friends' house, she and her dh dropped me off at the Westin where I stored my bags and went shopping for a couple hours. Back to the Westin for a glass of wine and repack my stuff, caught the bus at 6:51, on the plane for a 3:11 direct flight home (my dh got me a first class upgrade!! ) and here at work before 8. Feels like I've been gone for a week, but it was less than 2 days! But wow, what a fun-filled 2 days they were.

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TammyM
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posted Nov-26-2007 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TammyM   Click Here to Email TammyM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a wonderful report!! Congratulations on running a very good race.And the pics are great!
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Iapetus999
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posted Nov-26-2007 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iapetus999   Click Here to Email Iapetus999     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congrats on the PR!

It was great meeting you at the "Pink Door"
Funny, the only thing NOT hurting me today is my feet...which usually hurt after a 5-mile easy run so go figure.

How did you get your chip time? I can't get the results site to load.
And when it was up for a minute yesterday, it didn't give me a chip time.

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enkephalin
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posted Nov-26-2007 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enkephalin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What an excellent PR!! You so totally rock!

Hey, that last underpass hill, even a lot of the halfers were walking up it. Probably because it is hidden until you turn the corner, and comes at a time during your last 0.5 mile gasp, then wham!

Great RR and Greta pictures too

I thought those ladies would never tear themselves off DH.

Next time we will chat longer and I will hear all your training secrets, ok?

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evanflein
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posted Nov-26-2007 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for evanflein     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's a deal, Enke, we really didn't get enuf time (table was too long...)
Andy, we went in the recovery area and got our chip times. When they e-mailed the results today, they had my chip the same as gun time so who knows. And yes, the athleteslounge website seems overwhelmed. I'd give it a day or so...

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littlerockgm
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posted Nov-26-2007 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlerockgm   Click Here to Email littlerockgm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Four marathons in four months.....no wonder the race was second to the reunion.....what great pics and story....race not bad either....thanks for taking us along......

Good running all,

Jim

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Fortunate One
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posted Nov-26-2007 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fortunate One   Click Here to Email Fortunate One     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Erika, it just keeps getting better and better. WTG on the PR--you are so fast! Great Boomer pics too. I guess your feet didn't hurt so much that you couldn't shop.

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Spareribs
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posted Nov-26-2007 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spareribs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Erika, you are a fine runner, and I am sure that "sekrit" goal is all yours with a bit of rest between races. This was a tough schedule for you. Nonetheless, congrats on this PR and I am so happy you had fun with this wonderful group. Thanks also for the pictures. Now rest a bit will you? You have many faster marathons ahead of you I'm sure. Well done. Spareribs

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Dove61
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posted Nov-26-2007 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dove61   Click Here to Email Dove61     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great results Erika. I couldn't sleep last night and managed to get a glimpse of the results during the wee morning hours. I was delighted to see you place so high! Ours was a huge AG, and a fast one, too.

I hope you make it down for the Christmas Marathon. Let me know if you do and I'll run either the half or the full.

-Dove

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charleygross
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posted Nov-26-2007 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charleygross   Click Here to Email charleygross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Erika,

Congratulations on your PR, you must be so pleased!! I enjoyed reading your report and the pics were so nice. 4 marathons in 4 months is amazing!! I am impressed.

Regards,

Chris

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Econo
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posted Nov-26-2007 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Econo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Erika, it was my pleasure to meet you Saturday night!! What fun. Glad you had a super race. But girl, I would think you had figured out how to eat Gu already...

email me and we can work on our &&&secret&&&plan&&&

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vista129
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posted Nov-26-2007 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vista129   Click Here to Email vista129     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congratulations.......on BQ # THREE !!!!!

You ran this marathon the same way I ended up running mine.....sort of going along with how you feel. I am sure there are times when that would HURT a person, but obviously that was not the case with you here.

That is quite a series of marathons in a relatively short period of time. Hopefully you can give your body a bit of a rest to see what you want to do next for races.

Thanks for the report.

Joey

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Tramps
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posted Nov-26-2007 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tramps     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, I don't think I realized before this just how strong a runner you are! That's quite a performance coming in the wake of several other marathons. Great work but please be careful now. We don't want another on the DL.

Wonderful pics, too, of what sounds like a fun weekend.

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breger1
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posted Nov-26-2007 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for breger1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Super Alaska Runner Girl,

Great job and excellent Boomer Meet. I'm still bummed I didn't meet you when I was vacationing up there. You gotta pace me to that 3:45 we both know is coming.

Chill now will ya? 4 in 4 months? Ouch!

Bill

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wa5yom
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posted Nov-26-2007 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wa5yom   Click Here to Email wa5yom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great run....PR...BQ....FUN...and Boomers to share it with...what more can you ask for?

Fun and interesting report.....

Congrats on a great job...cramps and all...

Tim,
Ardmore, OK.

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Tetsujin30
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posted Nov-26-2007 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tetsujin30   Click Here to Email Tetsujin30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Erika - having done all my early marathons in the land of the midnight sun (not in winter though like you), it's a special treat to have the Great Land's first Marathon Maniac join our boomer reunions as much as possible. However, be sure to remember that even, if not especially, Marathon Maniacs don't have to run every marathon faster and faster every time.
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any tips on HOW you pull out your Gu or electrolyte caps while you're running so you don't get wet, sticky or tripped up would be appreciated.

1. Gu - pin 'em directly or put in a sewed or velcroed open gu-sized pocket to the inside of running shorts or outside in a zip-up/velcro pocket (w/large zipper or pull fob to open when hands are cold). Make little tear in each packet for even easier opening.

2. Electrolyte caps - this used to be a toughie for me too (when I even happened to remember I was carrying them in a little plastic sandwich bag or race-chip one) until I met an ultra runner with a small cylindrical waterproof, buoyant key container on a long string for swimming and boat use. Turns out he hangs it around his neck to help him remember that he had them and to take them.

I did it yesterday and it turned out to be so easy and convenient to pull it out from under my shirt, unscrew the top and pour one into my mouth while approaching an aid station. It felt kind of silly at first but it really worked.


Wham! Felt like I stepped on a nail! It was a cramp in my right foot.
I must have gotten the same nail but in my left calf along Lake Washington Blvd too but being able to take a couple of e-caps (even w/o water I could swallow them) eventually saved my day.

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rasmussenmp
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posted Nov-26-2007 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rasmussenmp   Click Here to Email rasmussenmp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Erica,
Wow what a great run and report. We must have finished side-by-side (3:50:10 to 3:50:12). Even with the foot cramps you did wonderful and to PR. WOW.. Did I say WOW yet..
It was great chatting with you again at dinner. And I don't know how we missed each other at the finish. Hope you have (had) an easy flight back north. Glad the rain/snow mix we had here today wasn't yesterday. Congrats again.

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Opie
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posted Nov-26-2007 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Opie   Click Here to Email Opie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow! Nice pictures and, could you loan me a few of those BQ's? Wish I could've been there.

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tagcaver
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posted Nov-27-2007 06:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tagcaver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
7th out of 142 in AG! Outstanding!

Thanks for sharing and especially thanks for all the photos of the Boomer gathering. I love being able to associate faces to names when I read these posts.

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smpankowski
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posted Nov-27-2007 06:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for smpankowski   Click Here to Email smpankowski     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What an awesome RR!!!! Looking at how you placed, you're crazy fast. I hung on every word like Boomer Babes hung on Dark Horse.

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halllar
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posted Nov-27-2007 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for halllar   Click Here to Email halllar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great report and great PR,
It sounds like old hat for you now. Four in one year and at BQ pace and you train in Alaska ,kids, husband . You are the woman!!
You are one of the inspirational people here that shares experiances in a way that we all can relate to. You are a real person please stay that way.
Nice pics too!

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rochrunner
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posted Nov-27-2007 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rochrunner   Click Here to Email rochrunner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, Erika, you really are having one heck of a year! You also write one heck of a report that's a joy to read. This Seattle event apparently went down pretty well for all of our Boomer friends.

That's a bummer about the cramp, though. Isn't your foot a strange place to have that problem? I thought a calf or hamstring cramp was more common. But I agree with you that the 26 miles of pounding your feet on hard pavement can be the worst part of a marathon.

At least the Alaskan winter will force you to take it a bit easier until it's time to train for Beantown.

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Elaine3112
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posted Nov-27-2007 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elaine3112   Click Here to Email Elaine3112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Erika
What an athlete you are! Some folks take ages to get BQ's and you get 3 in a matter of months and a PR to go with them too. Fantastic stuff. Well done.

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rbbmoose
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posted Nov-27-2007 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rbbmoose     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW - Nice run and great report. - Good to see some pictures to know that you guys really exist.

Your improvement has been amazing....


Ray

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Dark Horse
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posted Nov-27-2007 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dark Horse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Erika,

You are a super nice person and super strong runner, and I'm sorry we were so far apart at dinner. It was great to meet you, and I look forward to next time.

Dark Horse

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