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Tramps
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posted Nov-10-2007 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tramps     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Headline summary: Tramps gets sub-4..and even sub-3:50… with a 3:47:39 in perfect weather for a 17-minute PR; final 10K still a struggle but a better managed race overall.

OA 968/3783
AG (45-49) 104/312
1st half 1:52:49
2nd half 1:54:50


I don’t travel much to run so I don’t get to meet Boomers often. Consequently, it was a special pleasure to meet Vista (right) and Perch (left)—along with Perch’s DW and DD (below). They are both nice, upstanding guys. In fact, they’re really a cut above the riff raff I usually hang out with, so I was on my best behavior. (All that stuff about Perch and Vista needing bail money was just in good fun. Really.)

Between the three of us we had the field covered: Perch up front, me the perennial mid-packer, and Vista doing a run/walk for his first marathon. Since they bring fresh eyes, I hope they’ll provide some impressions of the course and event.

GOALS IN CONTEXT Thanks to all the help from the Boomer bunch, I got to the start healthy and ready to go. This was my third marathon but it felt like I was still establishing my baseline performance. My first was in Richmond last year where I was in decent shape and ran 4:04 but the heat got to me during the last 10K. My second race was this Spring at the VA Creeper where I was under-trained due to flu but had good weather and turned in a 4:09 on a smooth packed gravel trail. But I faded during the last 10K. I had not yet had good weather and good health…until now.

So today’s goals were:
#1 a sub-4:00 finish. Those four-oh-something finishes were beginning to bug me. I was going to be disappointed if I couldn’t do this.
#2 Stronger final 10K. After fading at the end twice, I wanted to have a well-managed race with fairly even splits and a reasonably strong final 10K.
#3 sub 3:50. Training runs suggested this was a good realistic goal.
#4 sub 3:45. A stretch, but who knows? On a day with the stars all lined up correctly…

I clearly accomplished #1 and #3; I’d say partial success on #2 and, as a result, #4 didn’t happen.

WEATHER What a difference a year makes! Weather was the big story last year on a day that was one degree shy of a record-breaking heat. This year featured perfect running weather: cool, overcast, only minimal wind and, though it drizzled overnight, we avoided any rain. We were about 25 degrees cooler than last year. It made a huge difference.

FUEL I’ve had stomach issues in the past so this time I decided to go with water-only with Endurolytes (2/hour) and gels at 6, 12, 18, and 22. Bagel, banana, and cup of coffee for breakfast. I’d say this worked out pretty well for me.

THE RACE Richmond has enough variation to keep it interesting but no big hills to worry about. The second half is definitely tougher than the first, though, with some slow inclines that can take their toll. My pacing goal was to try to keep every mile in the 8:30-8:45 window. Splits are at the end for the data-driven.

The good news is that, with the exception of a fast downhill mile, I ran the first 20 miles in about a 20-second range, which is much better race management than I’ve done in the past. Some of those were a tad fast, but not ridiculously so.

The bad news is that I wasn’t able to hold on for the last 10K. I didn’t have the “death march” miles I had last year in the sweltering heat. I felt better all the way through (I’m sure due to both weather and training). But my quads were hurting badly and tightening up, especially during the last two miles. Worse, I ran into some stomach issues again—though much more limited than in the past. Basically, once I get pretty tired, my stomach has veto power over my picking up the pace. I mentally will myself to do it, my legs could probably be coerced to do it, but in picking up the pace my stomach tightens up and I begin to retch (but not vomit), forcing me to slow down or even walk. It’s very frustrating and will certainly be a barrier to future improvement if I can’t find a way to get a handle on it.

REFLECTION I enjoyed this race more than either of my previous marathons. I had fun joking with the crowd and volunteers. There’s a fair amount of crowd support for a medium-sized race (~4,000 marathoners, I think) and bands play at locations scattered along the course. My favorite cheer of the day referred to my bib number, 2005. A woman yelled, “Go number 2005! You’ve got my lucky number! That’s the year I got divorced!” You gotta laugh at that.

I also chatted with runners more, often giving first-timers on this course some tips on what was coming up. I really was able to fully enjoy the whole event and experience. I kept thinking, “Wow, this is so much more fun than the sauna I had last year.” Even though I was hurting through the last few miles, I was mentally in much better shape. I didn’t feel like my brain was baking in an oven. I felt alert, didn't get that stupid, and had a clear assessment of what was going on all the way through. I just felt better from start to finish.

I felt good that I had planned this race well. My finish time was almost exactly what I had anticipated. I had the right clothes for the weather, the right fuel, hydration went well, etc. I was nice to have a little experience under my belt and to be prepared accordingly.

One thing I’ve learned from experience is that I need to eat immediately after a race, I suppose to keep my blood sugar up. So I met my wife, wolfed down a half a pizza, changed into some dry and warmer clothes and walked a bit keeping an eye out for Perch, who I knew had finished before me. I had hoped to cheer Vista at the finish but in the chilly and windy weather, even with dry clothes, my body temperature plummeted and I stared shivering. We made a bee-line for the car to warm up and head home. (Sorry, guys.)

Tonight, my quads are very sore, the sorest they have ever been. Everything’s tender, too, but not too bad. As we wobbled around after the race, I told my wife, “I feel like a Weeble.” Sitting and getting back up were real challenges. It’ll be interesting to see what they’re like tomorrow.

Overall a fun and successful day!

Splits according to Garmin
1. 8:30
2. 8:29
3. 8:27
4. 8:25
5. 8:27
6. 8:24
7. 8:33
8. 8:40
9. 8:38
10. 8:37
11. 8:38
12. 8:37
13. 8:30
14. 8:17
15. 8:09
16. 8:36
17. 8:39
18. 8:36
19. 8:33
20. 8:46
21. 8:51
22. 8:43
23. 8:48
24. 8:36
25. 9:14
26. 9:18

Some photos…
Around mile 15…life is good before it starts to hurt!

Ahhh, done!

And the world’s best support crew, my DW. She didn’t even bat an eye when I ate all that pizza.

ETA official results

[This message has been edited by Tramps (edited Nov-11-2007).]

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RunsTheBitterroot
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posted Nov-10-2007 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunsTheBitterroot   Click Here to Email RunsTheBitterroot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Tramps! What a great job you did on your race inspite of some difficulty. Congratulations on your big PR! Nice photo's thanks. Larry

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enkephalin
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posted Nov-10-2007 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enkephalin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congrats!! Nice humongous PR too, wow. Sounds like it went just about as well as it could have. Retching? that's gotta be an awful feeling. Now your legs are truly ready for a pub crawl

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John2635
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posted Nov-10-2007 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for John2635     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Tramps, not only do you do great statistical analysis, but you run a hell of a marathon also. Good job on going sub 4 hours. I hope to join that club myself some day. Congrats on the 16 minute improvement as well.


John

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TheProFromDover
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posted Nov-10-2007 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheProFromDover   Click Here to Email TheProFromDover     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, great race! Almost got that 3:45! Being a data guy I went straight to the numbers. That 20M mark is a demon. But I'd say you covered past mistakes with great solutions and did well. Well, maybe not the half a pizza part - yikes!

Good that you got to meet Perch and Vista too (and DW and DD). I'll be looking for Perch's report too.

Thanks for the report,
Craig

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hermosaboy
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posted Nov-10-2007 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hermosaboy   Click Here to Email hermosaboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AMAZING consistency. You only gave back a few seconds at the end!

GRETA job!!!!!

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TammyM
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posted Nov-10-2007 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TammyM   Click Here to Email TammyM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW TRAMPS!!! What an amazing day you had!! I chuckled at the ladies comment about 2005 being her lucky number! Not only did you run one kick-a@@ race, but sounds like you really enjoyed this race, the course, the entertainment, the crowd support, the pizza MMMMMM, and meeting up with some boomers too! How can you top that?!!

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evanflein
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posted Nov-10-2007 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for evanflein     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh Tramps, I'm so glad you had a great race! And those mile splits are amazing... you were really quite consistent right up till the last few... Not so bad, really. I agree with finding the key to that last 10k... at this point I'm convinced it lies with the first 10k, but who knows. Sounds like an overall exceptional experience, nice PR and meeting boomers is always a bonus. Thanks for such a detailed report...

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tselbs
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posted Nov-10-2007 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tselbs   Click Here to Email tselbs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a great race, Tramps. I'm impressed with the big PR and the nice splits, but what I really like is your obvious satisfaction with your performance. Congratulations.

TomS

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egrd
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posted Nov-10-2007 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for egrd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Holy Moly Tramps - that's a hugh PR!!
Well earned and you had fun doing it.
Huzzah!!
Egret

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choover
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posted Nov-10-2007 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for choover     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congratulations on a hugh PR, Tramps! Temps 25 degrees cooler than last year was sure a blessing. Other than the tummy trouble it sounded like an all-around great experience. Thanks for the photos and great report.

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SkipAZ
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posted Nov-10-2007 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkipAZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds like near perfect execution to me! What an awesome race Tramps! Congrats on the huge PR. Your excellent training really paid off big time. WTG!

Skip

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MustangSally
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posted Nov-10-2007 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MustangSally     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well done, Tramps. Great PR, great photos, great race. I'm so very pleased for you.

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Spareribs
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posted Nov-10-2007 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spareribs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have this fine year of running and focused, consistent training to look back on to bring about this wonderful race for you. You had the mileage, the good workouts, a significant drop in pace on your GA work, and a great deal of homework on long runs in not always fun conditions, given the H&H. There is no substitute for it, and you did all that was required for a strong result. Good for you! Now after you rest a bit, and recover, seriously, you can run a 3:35. Nice going Tramps. Spareribs

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perchcreek
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posted Nov-10-2007 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for perchcreek   Click Here to Email perchcreek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TRAMPS!! You are the MAN! What a very strong race you ran, blowing away that PR and coming within gun sight of the 3:45! It was so great to meet you, and what a lovely course that was! I enjoyed every minute!
Congratulations! Great job
Steve

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Peter NC
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posted Nov-10-2007 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter NC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congratulations Tramps...I enjoyed your RR. It. was "to the point", great photos and not too long

You set a realistic goal for yourself and executed you plan perfectly. Your splits were in a nice consistant range. Great job!

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CNYrunner
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posted Nov-10-2007 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CNYrunner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Great race Tramps and wonderful report. Congratulations!
CNYrunner

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JJJessee
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posted Nov-10-2007 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JJJessee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well done Compadre, well done indeed.
I've watched you log some impressive training miles in this Endless Summer, and knew you were moving planets to make good on this one.
Congrats on the sub 3:50
Now cash in some of those frequent runner miles to relax and heal.
Great report too!
jjj

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Sans Souci
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posted Nov-10-2007 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sans Souci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, Tramps, the thought of having to post in the Hook-A-Canuck kinda made me retch too. Whew, that was *close*!

What a fantastic PR marathon! Well earned after the hard training in that summer weather. Love the happy finish pic!

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arf 1
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posted Nov-10-2007 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arf 1   Click Here to Email arf 1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, excellent race Tramps! A 17 minute PR is fantastic! You mentioned you took just water and electrolyte caps this time, as well as 4 gels....did you carry your own gels with you or pick them up at aid stations?

So great that you could meet Perch and his family and Vista! Great photo's....congrats again.

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WillRunForBeer
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posted Nov-11-2007 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WillRunForBeer   Click Here to Email WillRunForBeer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great race, tramps, and great race report. Nobody does better in the last 10K, at least not among us mortals. But you did better than most, I'd say, losing only a little bit to your average pace. Well done!

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mariposai
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posted Nov-11-2007 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mariposai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well done Tramps. I must admit...I had a hard time concentrating reading your report since I kept looking back at the picture you have posted of my old cyberspace pal Vista

Great job on your well ran marathon. I specially enjoyed readying about your enjoyment of the race and your support to other runners. WTG pal. And once again thanks for giving me an idea of what my friend Vista looks like

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hally
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posted Nov-11-2007 07:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hally   Click Here to Email hally     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Way to PR Tramps! Great report and pictures. You were real consistent there till the last bit, hopefully you can get a handle on those issues for next one.

Barb

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MarkGuy
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posted Nov-11-2007 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MarkGuy   Click Here to Email MarkGuy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tramps, that's a nice way to break through the 4 hour barrier! Despite the stomach issues at the end it looks like you held on pretty well. Good luck figuring that out.

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millbot
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posted Nov-11-2007 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for millbot   Click Here to Email millbot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tramps, congratulations on a very strong race and the huge PR. That's probably a pizza consumption PR too, isn't it?

Cool photos.

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