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Des Moines Marathon - 5:00 pacer

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TomD
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posted Oct-22-2007 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomD   Click Here to Email TomD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was able to drive out of Kansas City about 25 miles before stopping at a rest area for a 10 minute nap. I was so tired, but the nap really refreshed me. I was then able to drive the rest of the way to Des Moines listening to the Nebraska and Texas A&M game on the radio.

At the expo I met a couple of friends from the UK. We had supper with another friend, Nelson, who was doing the announcing of things at the Expo. Nelson was the one responsible for getting me on television after I ran my 200th marathon two years ago at Lincoln.

Nelson wanted to know why it took so long to run my 250th there at Des Moines. I told him I had an off year this year.

The Des Moines Marathon was about 10 degrees cooler than KC, but it felt hotter. It was in the 50's at the start and near 70 at the finish. Saturday night, I did get 9.5 hours of sleep. In the early miles I saw Fortunate One getting my attention and saying HI.

For my pacing team I had a mile by mile pace. Five hour pace is at 11:24 miles. My fastest mile is 10:30 and slowest is 12:00. The rolling hills are between mile 4 and 8. There is a long incline the mile before. After the half it is very flat. I started off with my miles being 10 to 50 seconds fast overall. At my mile 12 I was 1 minute and 9 second fast, but at the half I was only 20 seconds fast.

I had different people running with me off and on. Some taking off ahead of me, but mostly they drop back. In my style of running I am usually slow somewhere between mile 15 to 21 and it happened here too.

At mile 16 I am 2 seconds slow, not bad but I was slowing down. By mile 17 I am 34 seconds slow. Then at mile 18 I was 1:05 slow. That was my slowest point. Although I was slow at mile 18 I lost the 3 runners that were with me. They fee back.

Mile 19 I am now by myself at least I think so. As a pacer you always have shadow runners that follow, but do not commit and you do not know they are there. Mile 19 I gain 4 seconds. At mile 20 I gain 11 seconds. I feel okay at this pace, but the heat is bothering me. Thank goodness there is plenty of water, gaterade, oranges, banana, and Gu too.

Mile 21 I gain another 10 seconds. From here on I got a lot of remarks like "No way the 5:00 pacer is passing us." But I would pass them. From mile 21 to 25 I have 11:30 pace scheduled. Then 13:54 the final 1.2 miles for a 4L59:39 finish. I like making mine a little different and I have an extra 20 seconds to play with.

Mile 22, I am only 31 seconds behind pace and doing well at knocking off a little at a time.

Mile 23, I am off by 21 seconds. Here I meet a young woman wanting to know my pace and I let her know that I am very close and if she stays in front of me she will break 5:00. She thanks me and picks it up just a little.

The last 4 miles is a nice run in the open and you can see the downtown in the distance, where you finish. I love running the final miles at Des Moines.

Mile 24, I start losing track of my pace, my mind has really turned to mush and I am not sure. I am unable to caluculate my time any longer. One time I try and I am right on time and again I am nearly 2 times ahead and a third time I give up. I met a young couple and told them that I will be close. Just a matter of seconds over or under. Then I do not see them. My pace must be to fast.

I will just keep this pace and maybe slow down just a little after mile 26 and I should be very close.

I am a couple of hundreds yards away and I here the announcer saying, "Here is the 5:00 pacer coming in just under 5:00. I finally look at my watch and it is right at 4:59. I slow down just a little to let the runners around me finish in front of me. I know, I would feel a lot better if I beat the 5:00 pacer on my first marathon or any marathon for that matter.

I finish just 3 seconds of my scheduled finishing time. I had a 4:59:36. After the finish I had two of the runners that dropped back at mile 18 thank me for my help. The gal from mile 23 told me, "If you were not on my ass the final 3 miles I would of never finished under 5 hours."

The young couple from Mile 24 passed me in the final mile and finished just over 4:59. They shadowme without me knowing it in the final couple of miles. It was great to get so many comments. Although I thought I was alone much of the time, I actually was not. Getting that kind of response,there may of been many more.

I really love running Des Moines and being part of the pace team there. They work with you several months before the marathon. It started with me in March. This is a great place to run a marathon and be with an excellent and experienced pacer.

Next is Blue Springs Trail 50k in Blue Springs, MO, on October 28th.


TomD


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tselbs
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posted Oct-22-2007 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tselbs   Click Here to Email tselbs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice job running and pacing, Tom. And this is after a marathon the day before along with sleep deprivation. Congratulations on another good one.

TomS

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selb3
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posted Oct-22-2007 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for selb3   Click Here to Email selb3     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good job bringing the 5:00 folks in on schedule. Congrats on #250!!!! Very Awesome.

dave

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Fortunate One
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posted Oct-22-2007 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fortunate One   Click Here to Email Fortunate One     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great job, Tom. Sorry I missed you at the end, but I had to leave early. I did manage to get a picture of you passing the capitol, though, and will post it later. Most of my other friends running that day (both the Half and Full) suffered with the heat. The exception was the 3rd-place woman. One woman who had an off day still got 1 AG. I run with some fast women!

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ETA this photo (look in the middle at the guy in a yellow shirt):

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hermosaboy
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posted Oct-22-2007 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hermosaboy   Click Here to Email hermosaboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GREAT job Tom!!!

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littlerockgm
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posted Oct-22-2007 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlerockgm   Click Here to Email littlerockgm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am always impressed by the descipline necessary to run a race at a designated pace. Tom, you are indeed impressive in your marathon efforts. Nice race, great comments about the other runners about you.....you rock.

Good running Tom,
Jim

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rasmussenmp
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posted Oct-22-2007 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rasmussenmp   Click Here to Email rasmussenmp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wonderful pacing Tom. You did great and deserved the nice comments. Congrats on number 250.

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huskydon
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posted Oct-23-2007 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for huskydon   Click Here to Email huskydon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fantastic job! What a wonderful thing you are doing, I want to offer my thanks to you and others who do this.

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Econo
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posted Oct-23-2007 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Econo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A pat on the back, Tom, for being such a nice guy and a great marathoner! //pat-pat//Tom//pat-pat//

Funny how some people lurk around the pacer without making themselves known. I would probably be one of those shy lurkers if I wasn't following my Random Inner Pacer.

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johnmaas
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posted Oct-24-2007 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnmaas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great job of pacing in Des Moines!
Congratulations on #250, that is a lot of marathons...
Maybe I should have run with you, I couldn't seem to hang on to my pace group, lost them at mile 19.
Good luck with your upcoming 50K.
John

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Opie
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posted Oct-24-2007 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Opie   Click Here to Email Opie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love this report! We need to get together sometime. If I had planned it right, I could have done my ultra with you this weekend instead of over at Lake Perry. As you may or may not know, I'll be a 5-hour pacer at the Knoxcille Marathon, so this was so helpful! I didn't realize you've ran so many marathons.

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TomD
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posted Oct-24-2007 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomD   Click Here to Email TomD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Opie,

I would really like to met you. I have met many boomers at different marathons. Some I have seen a few and even several times. I was lucky enough to spend New Years Day with Spareribs in 2006.

I ran the first Knoxville Marathon. I was able to run a 3:57, but it was a tough one. I liked the setup afterwards and spent a couple of hours talking to many runners. It was only my second marathon in Tenn.


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spankee
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posted Oct-25-2007 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spankee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent job on pacing. Right on the money in terms of time. As a pacer, it is a lot of fun watching the race through the eyes of others. Great way to celebrate #250.

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DaveinAA
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posted Oct-25-2007 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaveinAA     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tom, congrats on #250. Excellent way to celebrate by giving back to the sport.

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RunsTheBitterroot
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posted Oct-25-2007 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunsTheBitterroot   Click Here to Email RunsTheBitterroot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Tom, excellant job on your pacing! I really admire your helping others finish thier marathons. I am reminded of my first marathon where I met someone from Canada at the starting line who paced me for the first 18 miles and then sent me on my way. I would not have been able to finish it without his help. I still have a picture of us shaking hands at the finish line and will never forget it.
Larry

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Twocat
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posted Oct-25-2007 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twocat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great job pacing. If I am typical you are right the pacer is never "alone" even if nobody is running with him. I typically have a goal of staying near some pacer, although I generally do not run too long with the attending group. I am sure many runners greatly appreciated your efforts and the fact that you came in right on schedule.

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wa5yom
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posted Oct-27-2007 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wa5yom   Click Here to Email wa5yom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hardly any sleep a couple of nighs ago...still hit 5;00 on the money.....

Congrats on a great weekend....

Good luck on the 28th.

Tim,
Ardmore, OK.

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