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divechief
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posted Oct-09-2007 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for divechief   Click Here to Email divechief     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We all have to have our dreams,

1) Super secret goal, PR, (sub 3:30:08)
2) Advertised goal, 2008 BQ (sub 3:36:00)
3) Realistically obtainable goal, 2009 BQ (sub 3:46:00)
4) The “I can live with it goal” have fun, avoid injuries and stay out of the med tent.

Feel free to scroll to the results at the bottom of the page. This will be a lengthy RR, post a congrats for reaching one of my goals if you wish, or preferably, just skip past this post, and give kudos to those people who suffered through Chicago last weekend.

If you feel like slogging through the RR, here goes.

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The Bizz Johnson is probably the biggest marathon that no one has heard of. About 500 people ran the full; Susanville California is a very small town is a remote part of the state. Months before the race I registered and tried to make hotel reservations. Every hotel I called just laughed and said “that’s race weekend, we don’t have anything”. We ended up with a room in Reno, and drove 85 miles to the race in the wee hours Sunday morning.

As race day approached, I did not feel like this would be my day.
RE: my race plans and goals, McMillan said I could run a marathon in 3:35:15. I’ve never run as fast as McMillan says I can.

Concerns,

The 5000’ elevation will slow me down a bit. I have recently learned from Estes park, and Green River Wyoming that I don’t run well at altitude.

The weather forecast is calling for warmish weather at the finish, nothing like Chicago hot, but a sunny 69 could be warm enough to cost a few minutes.

I was dealing with minor GI issues the day before, and the morning of the race

The 9:00 AM start was late enough to make pre race fuel a little tough to figure out.

Advantages,

The course profile shows about 1000’ descent from start to finish that should be good for a few minutes

Aid stations were every 2 miles all stocked with water, Gatorade, gu M&M’s, trail mix, and fruit.

At the pre-start briefing the RD said “ the first porta potty is at about mile 14, but since this is a trail run, there are porta trees every mile.
It was about 32º and sunny at the start, maybe 350 or so of us were lined up for the start with maybe 150 runners and walkers taking advantage of the early start, leaving 1 hour before us.

As you can see from Choover’s pictures, it is a beautiful course. Unfortunately I was not in the sight seeing mode.

The hills on the course were almost all very gradual (rails to trails) It usually didn’t feel like you were running up, or down. But there were exceptions. My Garmin was set on average pace, and I knew I had to average better than 8:15/mile to meet goal 2. For the first 5 miles (slightly uphill) I was averaging about 8:10, but I was working harder than I wanted to when I should have been warming up.

I took my first gu at mile 8, and I was struggling a bit, at mile 9 I saw my pace starting to slip. Miles 12 and 13 were a struggle, I felt like I was just shuffling. My pace was below 8:30/mile for those two miles. I was wondering if I could hold on, and reach goal 3, a 3:45 ‘09 BQ (I felt 3:35 had slipped away).

I passed the ½ with an average pace of 8:17, I was feeling a little better than I had a mile before but I have never run a negative split. At this point I thought I might be able to hold on for a 3:45 after all, then an amazing thing happened, as the miles clicked off, my average pace kept dropping. At the 20 mile mark I was down to an 8:13 average pace. Maybe that 3:35 would happen after all? Still, we all know about those last 6 miles of a marathon.

I was surprised at how ugly the hill was at mile 20. I didn’t have time to spare so I ran it hard; I passed 5 people on the hill (only one of them was running). I was wondering if I made a mistake. At the top my legs were burning and my lungs were shot, but after a big gulp of Gatorade at the aid station at the top I jogged for a couple minutes to recover and I was back up to speed.

It was shortly past this station, passing spectators walking the other way, I heard someone shout “Divechief” I was sure it was Choover, but I was working too hard and hurting too much (after the hill) to acknowledge,

For the last 6 miles, I knew a cramp could happen any time, I could run out of fuel any time, anything could happen. But I would hold on as long as I could. I was amazed to clock a 7:46 mile. I averaged the last 6 miles at a sub 8 minute/mile pace.

The 2-minute negative split really surprised me. As we were diverted off the trail for the last 0.2 to the finish, there were lots of spectators lining the trail. They all said the finish was just ahead, but it really felt like we were diverted off the course. It was a great relief to finally see the clock that had not yet reached 3:35.
Bottom line. I was thrilled with an 08 BQ, as for a PR? I am nearly 10 pounds heaver than when I set it. When I was at my PR weight got cold really easy. I think I am at a better weight now, and thank goodness, for ‘09 I will be in a new age group so I can afford to be slower.

If You have slogged through this, thanks for reading
Dave

Goal two reached

1st half 1:48:32, 8:17/mile

2nd half 1:46:24, 8:07/mile

(last 6 miles 47:60, 7:58/mile)

final, 3:34:56 BQ for 2008 and 2009

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Tetsujin30
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posted Oct-09-2007 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tetsujin30   Click Here to Email Tetsujin30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dave -

I had some pretty good dreams over the bellingham weekend too but you need some serious help when your dreams are about running negative splits at altitude to get a BQ by one minute.

Be sure to post any dreams you have about Boston too. They are fun to read. in the meantime, see you at the Seattle Marathon when things get real again at the Pink Door.

Congratulations.

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Dark Horse
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posted Oct-09-2007 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dark Horse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
divechief,

Congrats on a fine run.

Dark Horse

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rtravers
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posted Oct-09-2007 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rtravers   Click Here to Email rtravers     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congratulations! I'm sorry you didn't make your sooper top sekrit goal, but you rocked this race nonetheless! And you're right...I've never heard of this race before. Thanks for the great report, and see you in Hopkinton!

--Robin

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breger1
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posted Oct-09-2007 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for breger1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nicely done DiveChief. I've been following your training and your frequent comments "I need a few extra minutes to BQ". So I am thrilled for you that everything came together so well on race day. Enjoy that well deserved BQ!

Bill

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tomwhite
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posted Oct-09-2007 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tomwhite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
......Congratulations dive//...........you earned every bit of it......

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Elaine3112
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posted Oct-09-2007 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elaine3112   Click Here to Email Elaine3112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
divechief
Well done on picking it up big time in the last stages to claim your BQ. Recover well.

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choover
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posted Oct-09-2007 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for choover     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dave,

Hey, you must've caught those positive vibes I sent you at Mile 21!

We saw you after you had recovered from that nasty hill (we passed through that area twice). You were definitely in the groove and a man on a mission.

Initially, we had room reservations in Chester which was about 35 miles away but at the last minute something opened up at the Super 8 so we moved to Susanville. We noticed as we were driving through town that all the hotels had their "Vacancy" signs turned on. I was quite surprised given how booked up everything was. That would be a long drive to make from Reno on race day.

Congrats on your BQ and for having such a good 2nd half of the race. Nice to meet you!

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Tramps
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posted Oct-09-2007 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tramps     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice job! Great weather, a good course, and your fine training all came together. Congratulations.

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mtmom
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posted Oct-09-2007 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mtmom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congrats on your BQ!!! That hill at mile 20 looked nasty!!! Now that you've conquered that you're ready for the Newton Hills and Heartbreak Hill.

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Ileneforward
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posted Oct-09-2007 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ileneforward     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Woohooo! Great job! Hooray for the easing of GI problems during the race and hip hip hooray for getting faster and faster to the end, Wow!

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Patriotsr1
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posted Oct-09-2007 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Patriotsr1   Click Here to Email Patriotsr1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great run and report Dave. Congrats on the BQ an the negative splits.
pj

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evanflein
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posted Oct-09-2007 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for evanflein     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The negative split was most impressive, but all those final sub-8 miles were amazing. It was so nice to meet you at dinner, and your running is amazing. Like DH said when we saw you waiting by the door, "that's him, that's gotta be him, that guy's a runner!" See you in Boston if not before!

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hollys4874
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posted Oct-09-2007 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hollys4874   Click Here to Email hollys4874     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Divechief – congratulations on your BQ! And on a trail race, no less. How was the footing, generally? I’ll have to go look for Choover’s photos. Great job!

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perchcreek
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posted Oct-09-2007 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for perchcreek   Click Here to Email perchcreek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dive...Sounds like a very scenic run for an '08 and '09 BQ! Well done on the pacing and not hurting the quads wth all that down hill. And over a minute to spare! Excellent!
.. also, a big up hill after lots of down hill is a real shock to the system. WTG pushing up that last heart breaking hill

Steve

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RunsTheBitterroot
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posted Oct-09-2007 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunsTheBitterroot   Click Here to Email RunsTheBitterroot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Dave great job on your race. Congratulations on a BQ! I am curious, with that downhill, are you able to manage walking downstairs today?
Larry

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glidegal
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posted Oct-09-2007 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glidegal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
woo hoo, diver! you did it!!! maybe not your super secret double probation goal, but you BQd on a sneaky course! congrats. Three out of four ain't bad as the pundits say. glidegal

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piejones
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posted Oct-09-2007 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for piejones   Click Here to Email piejones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Outstanding effort. Negative splits for a BQ is something to be proud of indeed. Congrats!

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Aamos
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posted Oct-09-2007 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aamos   Click Here to Email Aamos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YAY! Great run! After Estes Park and Green River, you were prepared for this--altitude, yes, but mostly downhill. Now about those flying monkeys---be taking it very easy on those hills. Just have fun, no hurting yourself, I want to see you in Boston!

big grins,
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divechief
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posted Oct-09-2007 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for divechief   Click Here to Email divechief     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks everyone, a couple of quick notes.
Quads are fine, the hills are gradual enough that you rarely felt you were running hills (though if the direction of the race had been reversed the results would have been very different)

Probably 90% of the runners were wearing road shoes, the footing with just a few exceptions was hard packed dirt roads.

Arf had a great race coming back from her IT band issues, I will let her tell her own story.

first over all was Heather Fuhr with a 2:46:35. She was the 1997 ironman world champion!

and we do plan on taking it very easy when we play with the Monkeys.
Dave

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JJJessee
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posted Oct-09-2007 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JJJessee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeeehaaw! Congrats on the BQ, Dave.
That was a sassy way to do it too, with elevation and all.
The report had me on pins and needles, but I suspected that negative grade was going to give you a boost. You worked hard and played it just right.
nice goin'
jjj

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Spareribs
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posted Oct-09-2007 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spareribs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More important than the BQ was seeing that negative split Dave. We ought to have a special award on B&B, or someone ought to keep track of who does one in a marathon, as they are so rare, like hitting for the cycle in baseball or something like that. It is a sign of strength and conditioning of course, but also a sign of a well-planned and well-executed race. I am really happy for you. Spareribs

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vista129
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posted Oct-09-2007 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vista129   Click Here to Email vista129     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congratulations.

There are so many things to comment on, but I will simply say....Enjoy your trip to Boston.

Thanks for the report.

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Sans Souci
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posted Oct-10-2007 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sans Souci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, did your focus ever come through in this report, Dave. I admire your effort, especially in the late stages.

So now you can erase from your mind that you've "never run a negative split."

Congratulations on the BQ. I'm really happy for you.

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arf 1
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posted Oct-10-2007 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arf 1   Click Here to Email arf 1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
..you know how proud I am of you, HUGE congrats and big hugs and smooches too. I was worried about the GI trouble you were having and meant what I said about staying out of the med tent and no pressure. You trained hard for this and deserve it. You are my inspiration.

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