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choover
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posted Oct-08-2007 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for choover     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bizz Johnson & the Psycho Race Director
(long but with photos)

Oct 6, 2007


****Warning****

This is a long one so grab a cup of coffee if you think you have the stamina to plow through this self indulgent race report. This is a two part story. The first part is about the actual race event and the last part is about our horrible experience with the RD.

This is my therapy so please bear with…

The Bizz Johnson event is in Susanville, CA which is 85 miles NW of Reno. We arrived in Reno on Thursday, gambled a little at Harrah’s, and then headed to Susanville Friday morning where we got into a bit of a blizzard. Nothing like leaving decent weather in Montana to find snow in California. Fun Stuff!

[west of Susanville]

[Westwood, Paul Bunyan Land]

The Events
Bizz Johnson is a rails to trail course that has multiple events. An Express HM takes place on Saturday and is basically all downhill starting about 5000 ft in elevation. Sunday’s events include an out and back HM, full marathon, 10k out and back, and a 5k. The out and back events start at the finish line and run uphill before turning around at the halfway point. We registered for the Express HM and other Montana friends were participating in either the half or the full.

Background and Goals
Mr C and I ran a HM 3 weeks ago in Montana and it was a big step for us to plan another one so soon afterwards. This would be my 5th HM in a hair over a year and his 3rd since he started running about August 2006. Our goals are always pretty simple. Have fun, not injure anything, and of course I always hope to beat Mr C to the finish. Three weeks ago I beat him by about 6 or 7 minutes. Unfortunately, he refuses to actually care whether I beat him or not which takes some of the fun out of it for me. We were also hoping for another Boomer meeting – this time with Divechief and Arf who were running the full marathon.

Pre-Race: The Trouble Begins
While the area had received some decent snow in the higher elevations, the Susanville area was dry. We expected to have chilly starting temps but that’s just the way we like it. We picked up our race packets at the Train Depot which was a bit of a letdown but certainly no biggie. Unfortunately, there was very little information available and the one fellow we spoke to wasn’t very friendly. We received a white Hanes t-shirt with a nice logo – I was hoping for another tech shirt. Oh, and no expo – just a guy selling a few things out of a trailer.

My friend had picked up their packets earlier in the day and she had a very upsetting conversation with the Race Director. In fact, she was actually quite furious with him. She said he nearly bit her head off when she tried to ask a couple of basic out-of-towner type questions. She left the packet pickup with her questions unanswered. She’s a very experienced racer doing everything from small town stuff to the Hawaii Ironman. From that point on she referred to him as the Nazi Race Director. Mr C and I are pretty easy going people and while we sympathized with our friend we also know that RD’s are extremely busy and stressed people. Without a doubt it is a tough job. In other words, we’d give him the benefit of the doubt.

Fast forward to race day

We arrive at the Depot Sat. morning for the pre-race meeting and the RD immediately starts hollering at people to get on the bus, saying it’s the LAST bus and it only holds 55 people (200 are registered). We scampered aboard and then sat for about 30 minutes or more wondering what the other people were going to do. At least it was warm inside. Finally the RD boarded the bus and explained that there were 7 other buses coming for the other runners. Whew! Now I don’t have to feel so guilty about taking a seat. He also informed us that the course will be re-routed because the road to the original start was too snowy and icy to drive the buses on. Can’t imagine this happening in Montana but whatever. You take what you get. So now instead of a downhill course, the new course will start near Mile 20 of the marathon and run about 3.5 miles uphill before turning around. The RD assured us they would try to make the new course as accurate as possible. Again, whatever… We are the kind of people who go with the flow. After all that rigmarole at the Depot, the race was only about 5 minutes late in starting. Not bad considering…

[elevation profile]

The temperature was perfect for running – probably 30ish. While many people wore long pants, I wore my black shorts, black long sleeved top under my green Va Beach Shamrock tech shirt. I also wore my black Shamrock hat and black mittens. I was dressed perfectly and the mittens didn’t stay on long. Mr C was in shorts and a short-sleeved shirt. The first mile actually started on a narrow downhill before beginning a long, gradual climb. Our first mile was about 11:30 because it was single file and crowded. Yikes! Not a good start. As we were able to spread out and start working our way uphill to the turnaround, I realized this was the longest uphill segment I have ever run. It was a little weird watching the marathon mile markers get smaller instead of larger (19…..18.....17…). It was as if we were going back to the future. We were running easily at 10:30 pace and both felt good. Unfortunately, those first 3 miles were slower than what I needed for a PR. But some things are simply not worth stressing about so I decided to make this a sightseeing run with Mr C and forget worrying about a PR. In retrospect, I threw in the towel on the PR waaay too early. Our guy friend hit the turnaround ahead of us and we saw him head back down the hill. He was in 2nd place overall right behind a young gal. We cheered for him and snickered about him being behind a woman, knowing that would inspire him to work hard.

Everything was going very well for me. I felt really good – no sign of stomach trouble like last time. My breathing felt easy despite the higher elevation and initial uphill. Mr C felt good too. The trail surface was nice with mostly hard packed dirt. However, there were sections with some chunky gravel that could turn ankles and some occasional patches of horse manure. There was no snow or ice and the trail was completely dry. Mr C stayed behind me single file fashion. I gave up a long time ago trying to get him to run next to me. He probably prefers to run behind me so he doesn’t have to make conversation. But one of these days he’s going to have to take his turn at leading and let me draft.

[wooden bridge]

Our pace per mile dipped a little below 10:00 on the downhill and went as low as 9:30. A couple of times I started to get a bit ahead of him so slowed down a smidgeon. I need a rearview mirror to help keep track of him. The last part of the course is by far the prettiest. Some of the trees looked nearly neon yellow next to the dark pines. We ran over several wooden bridges and through two train tunnels that are 450 and 800 ft in length. The 2nd tunnel was very dark – so dark I could not see the trail surface so I just focused on the light at the end of the tunnel. Is this what a near-death experience feels like? Fortunately, the running surface was level but it still felt strange to run in the dark like that. [Note to Moderator Hup: No lanterns or cones in the tunnels].

[first tunnel]

[fall colors]

We hit Mile 10 and I realized I had slowed down when Mr C pulled up next to me looking really strong. I complimented him and said something about it not being a PR day for me but he said he still had hope. So I picked up the pace to stay with him. I was very pleased with how strong he looked as he typically crashes hard at Mile 10. We ran side by side until Mile 11 when my stomach started to act up. Cripes. I could not believe it was happening at this point in the race. I wished MrC good luck and dropped to a walk in hopes of getting past the stomach trouble. I walked/jogged the last bit to the finish. That really stunk as I had felt so good up to that point. I’m not sure what’s more aggravating: stomach problems at the beginning of a race or at the end.

Details
Mr C got a PR by a minute or so. My finish time was my 4th slowest out of 5 HMs. I placed 10/22 in my division and 61/123 Gender. Mr C took 16/19 division and 57/82 Gender. Our friend ran a tight race with the girl until the end when he passed her for 1st OA. My Garmin measured the course at 13.4, MrC measured it at 13.35 and someone else measured it at 13.5. So I’m betting the course was a tad long.


Pasta Night
Saturday night we went to the pasta dinner at the Elks Lodge. Yeah, I know you are supposed to do that BEFORE you run – not afterwards. The RD spoke for about 15 minutes, mostly whining about how expensive guest speakers are to hire and that he had $7,000 in port-a-john expenses. I thought all the talk about race expenses was a bit tacky. As you can tell, I’m not overly impressed by the RD but not paying him much attention either. The speaker turned out to be a BLM person who had a significant role in converting the abandoned railway into the trail. He had a good slide show and lots of interesting historical info. The meal was decent too.

Boomer Meeting
Our Sunday plan was to watch our 3 lady friends finish the marathon and also catch Divechief and Arf before heading back to Reno to catch our flights. We went to Mile 21 where we saw 2 of our friends plus Divechief run by. I didn’t realize it was Divechief until he got right next to us but I still yelled at him as he flew past looking strong and determined. I didn’t know if he heard me or not but I did get this photo of him.

[Divechief in red at Mile 21]


We then hurried off to the finish line. Speaking of the finish, the race is diverted from the main trail and goes down this little, narrow chicken trail to the finish area in Hobo Camp. It would be very hard to pass someone on that trail.

The Bizarre Part

Because we were cutting it close, MrC decided to drop me off at the finish area so I could get some photos and then he’d go park the car. As we were starting down the road to the finish, the RD drove in front of us so we drove around him not thinking anything of it. I mean, we knew we weren’t supposed to park there; however, the sign at the entrance said “No parking – bus turnaround.” Well, we weren’t parking – just turning around. We figured the RD wouldn’t care once he saw I was just getting out of the car. Well, the RD followed Mr C back up to the parking lot and took his photo as he was getting out of the car and then disappeared. Mr C thought that was pretty strange but no words were exchanged between the men. MrC joined me at the finish where we watched our friends finish and also caught Divechief. Everything was going great. Our friends ended up placing 5th, 6th, and 38th OA Female and Divechief did great too. Everyone was happy and having fun. Unfortunately, we were going to miss Arf due to our flight schedule. Dave, it was nice to meet you in person even though our time was short.

As we were about to leave, we heard the PA system announce, “Would the driver of the white, Sebring convertible please move your car as you are blocking traffic.” That was our rental car but we were not blocking traffic. He parked it in a legitimate parking spot. We had to leave for the airport and on the way back to our car when we were confronted by two police officers. They knew who we were because the RD had shown them the photo he had taken of MrC. Turns out the Psycho RD had called the cops and asked them to “remove this man from the premises.” They asked for MrC’s ID and said the RD told them he was driving erratically. Uh, not even close. We explained the order of events to the officers and they seemed rather put out to have even been called for this matter. In fact, they said they had better things to do with their time. However, they still needed to take down MrC’s name, yada, yada, yada. Honest folks, WE DID NOTHING WRONG! I don’t get angry easily but have gotten myself really worked up over this. It was probably a good thing we needed to scoot to the airport as Mr C would’ve confronted the RD about his accusations and behavior. However, we were too short of time. I have no idea why this guy took it to the extent he did. If he had a problem with Mr C driving through the turnaround, why didn’t he just say something to him instead going on this power trip of taking his photo and calling the cops.

This is where I really must rant

While the Bizz Johnson Trail is a lovely course, I would never in a million years participate in the event again nor any other event promoted by RD Eric Gould. We happily spent a fair amount of money to travel to California to participate in this race. The RD and his right hand man (whatever his name was) were inhospitable to us and our friends starting back at the packet pickup but we could’ve gotten past all that as everyone has bad days. We are nice, normal, law-abiding people and certainly did not deserve the humiliation of being confronted by police officers in a public area for no reason. So much for giving this RD the benefit of the doubt – this guy is downright strange. MrC is a regional sales manager of the largest geographic territory in a company that is 3rd largest in its industry. My husband lives, breathes and drinks customer service and was appalled at what transpired at this event. We are not needy customers nor hard to please. We went to Susanville looking for good times with friends, hoping to make new friends along the way while enjoying a mini vacation together. We were happy to spend our money supporting the local Susanville economy but sure never expected to be treated like we were. I am not the type of person to blow things out of proportion and it makes me sad that I have allowed this awful man to sour my long weekend with my husband. I’m sure most people thought the event went well and I really don’t understand why things turned out so badly for us.

All that RD crap aside, the last couple of days have been a rather emotional roller coaster for me. In retrospect, I am upset with myself for how I handled my own race. Basically, as soon as the RD announced the change in the course, my thoughts were, “There goes a PR.” I certainly could’ve run that course faster considering how I felt for the first 11 miles. But rather than try pushing a little harder through the difficulties, I took the easy way out. Yes, the bright side is that I enjoyed most of the course with my DH. Yes, he beat me which is really not a big deal. He ran a smart race and I am happy for him. I simply feel like I need to start making some decisions regarding running. I have real life friends who are very serious about their racing and many people on CR are equally as serious if not more. I feel some self-induced pressure to start taking this more seriously but I’m not sure if that’s what I really want to do. I’m great at self protecting and not sure I want to get out of my comfort zone.

In light of the problems at the Chicago Marathon, I feel rather trivial complaining about anything. However, I did want to share how it went for us. If you made it this far, thanks so much for reading this very long report and I hope you enjoyed the photos.

If you are looking for a wonderful rails to trails course in the west with a highly professional Race Director, I strongly recommend the Deadwood-Michelson Trail over the Bizz Johnson.

That’s my last HM for a while.

Thanks for reading.


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TheProFromDover
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posted Oct-08-2007 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheProFromDover   Click Here to Email TheProFromDover     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok,

1) you kept me way up past my bedtime (but i kept reading)
2) you did pretty well (what's this stomach thing?)
3) you guys did not shoot anyone and should be commended for this
4) what a crazy race report!!! honestly. I would have gone nuts!!!

craig

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RunsTheBitterroot
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posted Oct-08-2007 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunsTheBitterroot   Click Here to Email RunsTheBitterroot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Cheryl! Wow what a race report! Sorry things turned out the way they did. Looks like a nice course, great photo's. Larry

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mcsolar99
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posted Oct-08-2007 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mcsolar99   Click Here to Email mcsolar99     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
geez choovie, your rr is just full of contrast:

-- those are some of the nicest pics of any race course i've seen.

-- that's the craziest rd story i've heard.

sounds like you've had quite the rollercoaster weekend.

re: running. i think cutting yourself some slack mentally and running with mrc was a good thing to do. don't be so tough on yourself, dudette. you certainly didn't waste anything; you've made lots of breakthroughs with your running, and you'll make more in the near future, i'm sure. you don't have to be a super-serious runner or do runs for fun; it's not an either/or situation, you can do both. embrace your yin and your yang, recover for a bit, and get back to enjoying running!

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John2635
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posted Oct-08-2007 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for John2635     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As usual nice pictures Choovie and a very imformative and entertaining report, but something was missing, NO PICTURE of Choovie!!!! Congrats to yourself for finishing in spite of the upset stomach and to mrchoovie on his new PR.

Don't dwell on the bad experience with the as$hole RD. A letter to him from you and all your Montana friends having made this trip should elicit some response and/or an apology. If not, he's the loser here.

You've made quite an improvement in your running over the past year or so and still have the capability to make even more if you desire. If not, enjoy what you're doing now. mcsolar nailed it, running isn't an either / or situation. Just keep writing those reports. They're my favorites.

I was planning on doing this race some day, now, after what you've had to say about the RD, I think I'll head to Deadwood.

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posted Oct-08-2007 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hup   Click Here to Email hup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
C - First let me congratulate you on your race. Ya done good! I know that I would have immediately panicked when I found out the course would be changed. I'm sorry to hear about your rumbly tumbly .... one more thing to think about I'm very glad to hear that you made it though those tunnels upright

re: Eric Gould. There is no excuse for behavior like that. When I ran the race in 2005 everything went smoothly and he seemed OK, based on your experience that might have been the exception with this guy.

So, Eric Gould, Mr Nazi Race Director .....
NO ENTRY FEES FOR YOU!!!

Take care, Cheryl
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vista129
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posted Oct-09-2007 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vista129   Click Here to Email vista129     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the good report. The pictures were spectacular. Those colors were just perfect.

My thoughts are that you had SEVERAL issues all going on at one time. Any one of them needing to be addressed separately would not have the impact that they do when they all pile up at one time. If you look at it, the attitude of the RD was there to throw you off, then the change in route, both of which would influence how you felt when it came time for deciding how to run the race.

Give yourself some time off. Then when you are rested, a fair evaluation of what you want out of your running is fair.

Is there a local newspaper where a letter to the editor would be of value to share the insanity of this RD?

Chin up, check that stomach problem, and keep charming us with your running.

Thanks again for the report.

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posted Oct-09-2007 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for divechief   Click Here to Email divechief     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cheryl:
It was so great to meet you, though it was VERY brief.

We really had no interaction with the RD at this race, I have very few negatives about the weekend (though I thought it was odd that after they "sold out" they held out the last 10 marathon registrations and jacked the price up to $250.

I also fretted about the last minute decision to allow an early start, but those fears turned out to be a non issue.

In spite of the issues, congrats on a good race. and as for your next one,? I hope it is soon, but don't race unless it's fun, after all, that's the only reason for most of us to do it. (most of us aren't winning money)

I will try to post a RR tomorrow, but again, it was great meeting you
Dave

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mcsolar99
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posted Oct-09-2007 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mcsolar99   Click Here to Email mcsolar99     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vista129:
Is there a local newspaper where a letter to the editor would be of value to share the insanity of this RD?

http://www.marathonguide.com/races/racedetails.cfm?MIDD=2122071007

on the internet, we're all local

does that second report sound familiar?

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posted Oct-09-2007 06:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dark Horse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
c-hoovie,

Lovely photos, and I'm so sorry you had to deal with a psycho race director. I do badly when confronted by people like that--I might have gone looking for him to kick his @$$. You handled it much better.

On a reflective note, I'm guessing the guy had some personal problems, including perhaps some financial problems. He mentioned money issues a couple of times at the dinner, and divechief noted that he jacked up the entry fee for the last 10 entries. Sounds like an unstable individual who was temporarily overwhelmed by his problems.

Dark Horse

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Spareribs
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posted Oct-09-2007 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spareribs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Choovie, I'm really sorry this happened. To have such a beautiful event spoiled like this. The next one will be paradise I'm sure. Great pictures. Spareribs

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posted Oct-09-2007 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rtravers   Click Here to Email rtravers     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, my! Lovely pictures, but I'm getting all rile up and upset reading about that RD. It's great to be able to share information like that, so we can all avoid him and his races in the future.

Congrats on such a fine race despite all the bizarre stuff being thrown at you!

--Robin

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posted Oct-09-2007 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for breger1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Choovie, run for fun. Enjoy the health benefits and enjoy the time with MrC and your other running pals. Some of us are psycho serious but they're (we're?) the psychos, not you. You are a pleasure to read/listen to and your photos are the 2nd best of B&B (gotta give credit to RunsTheBitterRoot).

Too bad the RD was psycho guy. Bad PR is a major deal and for a small marathon like this one, doubly bad. You know who was weird here. Not you and MrC.

Bill

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posted Oct-09-2007 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coastwalker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Choover,

Thanks for the great photos and your very thorough RR! I agree that you should take some time to get over this race, and then look back and put it in proper perspective: There were several things that threw you off, such as the first indications that all was not right with the RD, the bus incident, and the course change. Nobody likes surprises on race day because you have mentally planned for things to happen a certain way. You had more than your fair share of surprises, which led to a change in your plans for the race, which led to results that were different from what you wanted. But it was just a race, not a life-altering event, so just figure out what it makes sense to take from the experience, and then put it behind you.

As far as your friend Eric Gould is concerned, it seems that he got some surprises also, but he didn't handle his anywhere near a capably as you did yours. For whatever reason, he seems to have been way too stressed out on race day, and it clearly affected his ability to do his job, and his impact on many of the entrants in his race. A letter to him or to the local paper is appropriate because if he doesn't know what he did wrong, he'll never make any attempt to fix it. But after you send your letter, put Eric out of your mind.

Regarding your goals: Just because a lot of other people take their running very seriously doesn't mean that you have to as well. Your goals should be what works for you, not what works for me or anyone else. It's good to re-evaluate your goals every once in a while. But only change them if the change works for you.

Jay

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tnally
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posted Oct-09-2007 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tnally   Click Here to Email tnally     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Choovie,

The pictures were fantastic. Glad you had the chance to spend a long weekend with Mr. C, even if you had to deal with the RD from hell. Screw him! He deserves to have to live with himself.

I hate last minute changes to any race. You did much better than I would have in adapting to the changing course and schedule. You also handled the RD situation better than I would have. I'd have been in his face for sure.

Congratulations on pushing through your stomach troubles and finishing. Congrats to Mr. C for his PR.

Tom

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posted Oct-09-2007 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elaine3112   Click Here to Email Elaine3112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
chooves
Lovely pics and the course looked good too despite the challenges with the RD. So sorry you had to go through this experience. Unfortunately we have to deal with these unstable folk and it can be quite upsetting. However, you've had your 'nutter' this weekend so you're not due one again for some time, so get yourself entered in another race and enjoy. As for taking your running more seriously, make sure you still enjoy the experience when you up the ante, it's what it's all about! Well done to you both.

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posted Oct-09-2007 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Caddisfli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Choovie, what a dissapointment that this great event was turned on its head by a nutcase! Well its the RD's loss of face and reputation in the end. Despite the troubles you had a much better race than you give yourself credit for. Hope the stomach thingy is history.
Cfli

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tomwhite
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posted Oct-09-2007 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tomwhite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...choover//..........that guy is an Idiot..........

.......sorry it ruined a perfectly good race for you,
but I'd scratch that one off next year if ther're gonna act like that.......What a Crock////

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mrsribs
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posted Oct-09-2007 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mrsribs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First off congrats to Mr. C for a great race!

Great pictures, too bad the RD made the experience so negative.

Mrs. Ribs

PS I don't think you're allowed to use the term "Nazi" on this site

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Tramps
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posted Oct-09-2007 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tramps     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Didn't you know when you signed up that this was the Bizarre Johnson race? It's just "Bizz" for short.

Absolutely amazing scenery and wonderful weather. Sorry you didn't have the race you hoped for--and, of course, sorry to hear about the weird stuff--but sounds like you still had a good trip.

BTW, didn't I see you and Mr C on "Cops" last night? Something about fleeing the scene of a crime...last seen heading to the airport...or something like that.

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WillRunForBeer
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posted Oct-09-2007 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WillRunForBeer   Click Here to Email WillRunForBeer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A lot transpired to make the event significantly less than perfect for you -- so sorry to hear that.

The RD was out of line for sure. We all have bad days, but the key is not to inflict our feelings about the day on others. Sure he had to reroute the course and do a hundred other things that day, but to make the racers he had signed up to help feel like they were bothering him is unexcusable. What he did to you and MrC with the cops is appalling. Look at La T and how well she handled the hard task. Hopefully he doesn't do the RD job again, as it seems like he doesn't like it too much.

Congrats to MrC and you for the efforts and race regardless of the issues you were faced with.

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posted Oct-09-2007 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for La Tortuga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glad that you are not posting from jail!!!

Tincure of time will help with this race.

Seriously, there were so many wonderful aspects of this race - the beauty, running with Mr C (...looking really strong. I complimented him and said something about it not being a PR day for me but he said he still had hope. So I picked up the pace to stay with him. I was very pleased with how strong he looked as he typically crashes hard at Mile 10.) and running with friends. 5 HMs in a year is impressive!

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posted Oct-09-2007 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WillRunForBeer   Click Here to Email WillRunForBeer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by choover:
Mr C stayed behind me single file fashion. I gave up a long time ago trying to get him to run next to me. He probably prefers to run behind me so he doesn’t have to make conversation.

I almost missed this.

I'm pretty sure he likes to run behind you for reasons other than what you're speculating.

At least when I run behind PDR, it's for other reasons ('specially if she's wearing a running skirt).

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posted Oct-09-2007 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mtmom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome home Cheryl! I'm sorry you had such a bad experience in CA. That RD needs to be fired! One would think that a race this small would be more personable and friendly. I have to say I've had much better luck in the big races and I certainly won't be making any trips to Susanville in the near or distant future. Don't beat yourself up about the race. Chalk it up as another experience - one I'm sure you won't forget in a long time. I think you did great and look forward to reading your name in the newspaper and YRR newsletter in the future. Take care!

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posted Oct-09-2007 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for piejones   Click Here to Email piejones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know why the RD needed another photo of you and MrC since I had already sent one with the warning letter. And, if he had followed my suggestion and just had you both taken into custody on first sight, the parking issues would never have arisen. The race photos are nice, but a good shot of you in handcuffs, or even one of MrC being tasered, would have been nice. Think of your audience next time.

Race pressure? What pressure? You go, you run, you ENJOY. Beautiful scenery to be taken it. Doesn't matter if it's uphill, downhill, or sidehill. Life is full of stressed out folks trying to direct dis, dat, or de udder ting. Laugh it off and go have some fun. And.......KEEP RUNNING!

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