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Adirondack Marathon RR (long, of course).

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Doctor Wu
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posted Sep-19-2007 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doctor Wu   Click Here to Email Doctor Wu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cliff notes: My 20th marathon since 2000. My 4th out of 6 planned for 2007. 3:39:14 for a 39 second CR. 39th OA, 6/17 AG (yeah, there were 6 males 50-54 in the first 39 OA!)

11th annual Adirondack Marathon, Schroon Lake, NY, September 16. Run simultaneously with a half marathon as part of the Adirondack Distance Festival with 5 and 10k races on September 15. This event usually has about 200 - 300 marathoners and the half marathon has grown and been capped at 500 runners.

Backround: This was my third running of the Adirondack Marathon with the other two being 2002 and 2006. In 2002 I signed up with much trepidation fearing that I would crumble on the hills which were said to be severe. My goal that first year was to run the marathon as a training run in an effort to peak for my first BQ three weeks later. I ran Adirondack and enjoyed the experience immensely finishing in 3:45 only to get sick three weeks later and fail at the BQ attempt, then get my first BQ later that year in Philadelphia. In 2006 I repeated the path to another BQ by running Adirondack then getting a PR three weeks later at the Mohawk Hudson River Marathon. So another marathon season has come and I am going down that same proven path to peaking for another autumn marathon.

Saturday September 15: Had to work but got out at 4PM. DW arranged for DD to stay with a friend overnight. We left one car at work in Burlington, Vt. then headed down 22A to the bridge across Lake Champlain. We got to Schroon Lake at 5:50PM and checked into the Word of Life Inn. A word to the wise: If you do this race and need a hotel room sign up early! All the rooms in the "normal" hotels were booked solid since some were already closed for the season. So we ended up staying at the WOL Inn, a hotel operated by a born again Christian organization which has a Bible institute in Schroon Lake. I wasn't afraid of being converted, but they do have some conservative rules, like no smoking or alcohol on the premises and modest dress if you go in their pool. We were running a marathon so tobacco wasn't in our plans anyway, but I was a bit upset that we couldn't have any whiskey, strippers or livestock in our room. Conveniently, the pasta dinner was being held there and we decided to eat there rather than going back into town. The dinner was excellent as compared to other marathon pasta dinners I've been to. So we checked into the room and it was normal in every way except for no TV! I guess they felt there's too much sinning on the tube and don't forget about the liberal media, etc, and we want you all to be worshipful during your stay, blah blah blah. This was fine because we went to bed early and got a good night's sleep.

Race morning: We checked out at 7:20 and drove the .25 mile around to the finish area. We arrived early enough to park our car adjacent to the park where the apres race festivities would be. The number pick up was just a short walk to a municipal building and we picked up our #'s with no line. (If you arrive a bit later you will be directed to park in a field across Rt 9 about a five minute walk to the finish area and a two minute walk to the start on the main road in the middle of town). Then we walked one block to the main street (Rt 9) and sat down in an old cafe called Pitkin's for breakfast. I had a short stack of pancakes and two eggs, coffee and water. We were in and out in 25 minutes then we went back to the car, made last minute clothing decisions, hugged and parted ways. My wife was running the half marathon and had to ride a bus at 8:50AM to the start at the halfway point of the marathon course. The half is run on the flatter part of the marathon course. I could hear the PA announcer saying ten minutes to the handcyclists start so I locked the car and jogged around to the start.

Weather: The showers on Saturday had blown away and the night saw cold temperatures as the skies cleared. Upon leaving the hotel it was clear, calm and 35 degrees. By 8:45AM, fifteen minutes before the start it was approximately 45 degrees. The sun felt good but I was wondering if I'd be cold on the shady wooded first half of the course. I decided to gamble and not wear a throw away shirt.

Garb: Race Ready LD blue and black shorts, grey compression Cool Max MUG, incredibly bright day glow orange singlet, white and orange Gizmo socks, new yellow and black Mizuno Elixir's, souvenir San Fran Marathon white cap, souvenir Boston Marathon white knit gloves. Damn, I looked good for an old fart.

Goal: In 2002 I ran this event in 3:45, in 2006 I did 3:39:53. This year I really didn't know what to expect. Since running the San Francisco Marathon on July 29 I hadn't done a run over 15 miles, so I was unsure of my endurance. But I had done a lot of fast running. I figured I would just see how things felt when I hit the hills and adjust from there.

The course: Okay, it is the Adirondacks so it is hilly. But this is not the most difficult course I have run. Miles 0 - 3 go through town and north of the lake then turn right to start the clockwise circle of the lake. At mile 3.75 the hills start and they continue to the 12 mile mark. They are roller coaster type hills with the first and last ones being the hardest. Fortunately none of them are very long and since they are rolling you get to use different muscles so you can recover from one before hitting another. This hilly section from mile 3.75 - 12 is on a narrow winding paved road in dense woods so there is a lot of shade and a cooling effect from the trees. There are places where you can see through the woods on your right all the way down the the lake. At mile 12 there is a nice downhill that is not too steep so you can haul down to the tiny village of Adirondack where about one hundred people will cheer you on in front of an ancient general store. Then you are on the flats from miles 12.5 to 19 running alongside the lake. (Very scenic). The trick here is to make up a bit of time but don't overdo it because the course will punish you with two long gradual hills from miles 19.5 - 21 and 24.5 - 25.5. This is where many people falter after hitting the first half hills too agressively. The finish line area is flat and comes after you return to town and cross the starting line then turn right and end at a small park along the shore of Schroon Lake.

The race: Last year nobody wanted to line up at the front and the same thing happened this year. It was a chip race for the first time so it didn't matter anyway. I lined up in the second row, and we were off. Miles 0 - 3 which were mostly flat with a few minor ups and downs went by in 7:58, 7:53 and 7:58. The cold calm air felt perfect for running and the pace seemed easy as I remembered to take short quick marathoner's strides. Miles 4 - 6 had the first hard hills and I got through them in 8:21, 9:17, and 8:40. As the next few rolling miles progressed I remembered to conserve my energy but I felt so good and was running a bit under my pace from the previous year. At the start I had noticed a pretty black haired woman dressed in a tiny black skort and a black and white top. Her skin tight white arm warmers completed the outfit. Wow, a fashion horse like me! She ran a bit ahead of me and would then walk for fifty feet every mile. I thought it was odd to stop running and walk a bit every mile regardless of the terrain but obviously it was working well for her. In her tiny skort she reminded me of Jane Jetson (God, I'm old, eh?) and we leap frogged each other until mile 16 when I could no longer keep up with her. Through the winding hills I was GeorgeHamiltoning the turns (running the tan-gent) and knew this could add up to over a minute of "found" time. Near the top of the last toughest hill some of Burlington Vt's Taiko Drummers were there pounding away at a nice cadence. This reminded me of VCM and Battery Hill. I finished the hill section miles 7 - 12 in 7:38, 8:24, 8:15, 8:27, 8:14, 9:06 and then mile 13 in 7:43 and crossed halfway in 1:48:50, exactly one minute faster than 2006. Miles 14 - 19 along the lake were mostly flat with a few minor uphills but the wind had picked up and part of this section was into the wind. 14 - 19 took 7:55, 8:13, 8:08, 7:53, and 16:36 (missed marker, 8:18 avg.). I missed the next few markers but reached mile 20 around 2:47. My goal here was to do a negative split since the course seems appropriate for it. Last year I just missed with 1:49:50 and 1:50:03 splits. This year I would need a 52:39 final 10k for the negative split. But this course comes back and bites you at the end. I held steady up the long rise from miles 20 -22 in 26:10 for a 8:43 average, then cruised mile 23 in 8:07. Miles 24 and 25 again uphill went in 8:53 and 8:32. Knowing the course really helped as I tried to accellerate for the final 1.2 but remembered not to kill myself as I have my goal race in three weeks. The final 1.2 I did in 10:41 for a 3:39:14 finish time.

No negative split as I did 1:48:50 and 1:50:24 but it was a 39 second CR for me. Last year I was 28th OA (with 3rd in my AG) out of 208 finishers and this year I was 39th OA out of 198. David Herr of Canaan, Vt was the overall winner with a new course record and a 59 YO guy was 10th OA with a 3:12.

The good: Runner's World has rated this one of the top 80 marathons and New England Runner puts it in their top 10. It is very well organized, logistically easy, scenically beautiful, with good cool weather. There seemed to be one volunteer for each runner and they all are very helpful. The post race food is great with home made brownies, yogurt, coffee, bagels and cream cheese, fresh melon and grapes, cookies, ice cream, soda and juice. The few townspeople who live here come out and cheer you on with programs with which they look up your number then cheer you by name. Hills are good for you! They are not killers. Expect to run about 10 - 15 minutes over your PR here. The field is small enough that you are treated like a VIP when you cross the finish line.

The bad: Don't come here if: You like big crowded races. You want a fast flat course. You don't like maple syrup (AG awards are cute snowflake shaped bottles of syrup). At some water stops there was water and Gatorade and at others there was water and Powerade. Each time the electrolye drinks were different colors and sometimes the volunteers didn't yell out loud enough what they were holding (not a big deal).

The ugly: You will probably catch up with and pass some of the slower half marathoners who start one hour after the start of the marathon. Some of them are quite wide and walk two and three abreast. Luckily the road is wide by the time you reach them so there is not too much weaving necessary.

DW report: Oops, I almost forgot. My wife has been battling a sore heel but still ran her half in 2:00:05 for an 8 minute PR. She got 3rd in her AG and got one of those maple syrup bottles. She is really miffed about just missing breaking 2 hours but now she can see that a BQ (4:05) is a real possibility for her.

Finally... Don't overlook this race because of the hills. It truly is a gem. I will probably go back every year as long as my legs can carry me.

http://www.coolrunning.com/results/07/ny/Sep16_Adiron_set1.shtml

www.adirondackmarathon.org/

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Dark Horse
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posted Sep-19-2007 04:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dark Horse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doctor Wu,

Sounds like a good time. I once raced kayaks at Schroon Lake back in the day. If I can get stronger and injury-proof myself a bit better, I might try this marathon.

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tselbs
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posted Sep-19-2007 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tselbs   Click Here to Email tselbs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Way to go, DrWu. Congrats on your course record. Congrats also to your wife on her half PR.

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vista129
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posted Sep-19-2007 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vista129   Click Here to Email vista129     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for this report. I have spent many a day in the Schroon Lake area and can visualize everything as you described it.....The WOL Inn, complete with the little indoor pool, Pitkens restaurant, the Adirondack country store, etc

I THINK someone died running in this race several years ago. It was a "local" if I remember correctly. One of my friends in the area told me the story at the time.

I can certainly understand how you would enjoy the race and route. Remembering those rolling little hills on the backside of the lake I can see how they would be perfect for training too.

Congratulations to you AND to your DW. Sounds like another successful trip to Shcroonie Boonie.

Thanks for the report.

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hazelrah
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posted Sep-19-2007 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hazelrah   Click Here to Email hazelrah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice run and report Walt, as usual. Adirondack Distance festival is a great event, but has allot of competition in this very crowded race calendar month. GMAA Common to Common 30K was this past weekend, I was a volunteer there (my long run is 14 miles right now so I did not run it). I know the Lake Placid Half Marathon is is sometime this month too. Sounds like your wife is doing really well too.

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rasmussenmp
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posted Sep-19-2007 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rasmussenmp   Click Here to Email rasmussenmp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congrats Dr Wu on a nicely run race and course PR.. Sounds like a great race and course.. You have me convinced to add it to my schedule. Congrats to your wife too.

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John2635
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posted Sep-19-2007 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for John2635     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great job as usual Wu, I like your reports but missed the pictures this time. Too bad about the no livestock rule, those Christians get a little touchy about that

John

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dtoce
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posted Sep-19-2007 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dtoce     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
great race report Walter to go with a very, very nice race!

I'd say you set yourself up quite well for a BQ attempt with your next marathon.

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wa5yom
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posted Sep-19-2007 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wa5yom   Click Here to Email wa5yom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey..BIG..BIG congrats on running a great race on a difficult course...

I can attest to the mountains since I used to attend Sout Camp in the Adirondack's...Massiweppi (I am not sure of the Spelling)...I believe it was Tupper Lake...if that rings a bell...

The area is beautiful..


Now I want to run it,.,,hehe

Congrats to the better half tooo..

Tim,
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Canfit
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posted Sep-20-2007 04:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canfit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very nice race and RR! Congratulations to you and your wife on great times! Neat that they can actually publish a program for the spectators. Good luck as you gear up for Boston.
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spankee
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posted Sep-20-2007 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spankee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Way to George Hamilton those turns. Congrats on the PCB and the RR--really funny. Sounds like a very enjoyable race. Also Sounds like your change in focus to more speed work and less long runs was not a factor.

Running with Jane Jetson--isn't that a fantasy and a half! No livestock in the rooms!!!---how can you do the traditional pre-marathon sacrifice (you don't supposed they had any extra virgins laying around)

Also congrats of your DW's age group finish. Maple syrup is a great prize---although of course, Canadian maple syrup would be even better (but that debate is for another day)

Congrats again.

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Tramps
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posted Sep-20-2007 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tramps     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm, this sounds like my kind of race, even with the hills. I'm a sucker for events with maple syrup. I've bookmarked that race site. Thanks for the detailed description.

Not surprisingly, you ran an excellent race. Very interesting to read your strategy.

Oh yeah, and no offense to anyone, but this was hilarious:

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Originally posted by Doctor Wu:
[I was a bit upset that we couldn't have any whiskey, strippers or livestock in our room. [...]So we checked into the room and it was normal in every way except for no TV! I guess they felt there's too much sinning on the tube and don't forget about the liberal media, etc, and we want you all to be worshipful during your stay, blah blah blah.

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posted Sep-20-2007 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hollys4874   Click Here to Email hollys4874     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dr. Wu – No TV! My DH would never survive that. My Pastor says quite often, "There's no need for Christians to be a joyless bunch." This sounds like a lovely course. I find that rolling hills actually give me some relief on long distance runs, as they stretch some muscles and give the other ones a break. Congratulations to both you and your DW on your course PRs!

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posted Sep-20-2007 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for evanflein     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice race! Sounds like a course I'd really like... a lot of pavement though. The trails look beautiful. Thanks for the links... might have to add this one to an East Coast possibility...

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