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Rich in NH
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 posted Sep-07-2007 07:08 AM
   
Jim, you're right, I'm pushing pretty hard. I've got the dang marathon on my mind and am trying to do as much as possible and still run the shorter races coming up.Probably a recipe for disaster, but I'm still ok. I'll take it easy the next couple days, then there's a hilly 10K this Sunday I really want to run well. I know better than to run back to back hard days, I just needed the reminder...
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fredurie
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posted Sep-07-2007 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by euphoric:
Fred, shame on you. Did you see the CNN report suggesting that 60 is the new 40?.
It doesn't feel like 40.
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fredurie
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posted Sep-07-2007 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by Rich in NH:
Fred, I'm curious to know what you ate during the week you ran 110 miles. That's a lot of burned calories. .
Everything, I actually gained weight.
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fredurie
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posted Sep-07-2007 10:07 AM
FridayAM 10 miles @ around 7:40, 73F and rain. 8 miles with Bill, who threw punches for 3 consecutive miles while running
and talking. Although he denies he has genetic talent, he has way more
than me. A cold front tonight. I have some chondro from last week's downhill miles.
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Sun Raider
Cool Runner |
posted Sep-07-2007 10:07 AM
60 is NOT the new 40. Maybe for walking around town but not for running.
I don't feel bad about being 60. I am pretty spry but when I take off and run it does not feel the same as when I was 40.
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fredurie
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posted Sep-07-2007 10:11 AM
At 40 I was racing at the North American Masters championship in Toronto
at 400 meters.60 is light years from that type of speed and intensity.
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fredurie
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posted Sep-07-2007 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by laker:
I heard to send a message you would do repeat 300's outside Tim Hortons.
Yeah, yeah.
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Jim24315
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posted Sep-07-2007 10:39 AM
The gap between 40 and 60 is far greater than the one between 20 and 40.For example the drop off in mile time 40-60 is 14 seconds, according to age grade tables. From 40-60 that drop becomes 51 seconds, or more than 3 1/2 times as much. As the distances get longer it becomes much worse, because that mile decline is multiplied by the number of miles raced. From 20-40 at 10k the drop is expected to be 65 seconds. From 40-60 it's 5 1/2 minutes! I don't know about some of you, but this has been very consistent with my experience. My recent 10k, which I was thrilled with, was 5:48, and 5:50 slower than what I ran at 2 of them in at age 43 off identical mileage, same weight (actually I'm a little lighter now), and same resting pulse.
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fredurie
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posted Sep-07-2007 10:41 AM
Other threads on coolrunning:Your heart rate is too high - you're overtraining.
Your heart rate is too low - you're overtraining.
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Spareribs
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posted Sep-07-2007 10:52 AM
Will walk later today. Right now I am trying to install all sorts of stuff on my laptop after getting a clean install of the OS. It amazes me I can make a living being this stupid about technology. This is taking me all day. Joe, you sure sound pumped about that race; it should be a terrific event and I wish you and your team well, even if you have to get a new mascot. Bob, many thanks, and hope the knee is improving. Fred, you are a riot, but you know, if I had to choose between being too competitive or not being at all competitive, I would stay the way I am. I actually did play with the idea of walking an upcoming fiveK and see how many people I can beat. Spareribs
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bobscamman
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posted Sep-07-2007 05:30 PM
Friday - Sunny, 92 & Humid !7.02 miles - 59:10 - (8:25)
HR - 130 / 152
8:46, 8:46, 8:43, 8:23, 8:22, 8:20, 7:44, :03 This one felt fine except for the heat and humidity.  I hope its gone for my long run Sunday morning! ------------------
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Rich in NH
Cool Runner |
posted Sep-07-2007 06:27 PM
Friday3 mile recovery run on the dirt trail. Another thing Jim, I'm tired of running slow. That's why the 8 miler @ half marathon pace the other day. That run was actually more progression, starting at 9:00's and finishing at 8:00's and I was working on form, trying to stay light on my feet and relaxed.
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Jim24315
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posted Sep-07-2007 06:44 PM
Friday - 8 miles on grass loop at 8:43 pace. Sunny and high 70's felt almost cool after all those days in high 80's, low 90's.
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euphoric
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posted Sep-08-2007 05:59 AM
Gentlemen, I think the CNN feature compared the current joie de vivre of 60s folks to that which was formerly associated with those in their 40s. I offer any of your posts as proof.
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Spareribs
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posted Sep-08-2007 06:27 AM
From Mark Sisson's daily blog at slowtwitch.com:"Let’s get one thing straight right off the bat: Endurance training is antithetical to anti-aging. So it amazes me when guys in their 40s and 50s who are training for a marathon or Ironman suggest that doing so will keep them young. It won’t. You may feel like a stud now with your shaved legs and your magic marker biceps tattoos, but endurance training speeds up the aging process almost as fast as watching TV, drinking sodas and eating potato chips. Actually, in some cases, it speeds it up even faster. I know, I know, you’ve been told that exercise is the great panacea -- the fountain of youth -- and that the more you do, the greater the benefits will accrue. Well, science has started to prove that concept wrong, and I suspect the evidence in support of my thesis will accumulate exponentially now that the first generation of Frank Shorter "psychophants" has started dropping. There is a middle ground where there's a perfect balance of diet and exercise that will lead to the longest, most productive and "youthful" existence possible. But it certainly isn't found in endurance training. That said, I do think there are ways (some legal, some not) to mitigate the damage and extract the healthiest life possible if you do choose to train long and hard." He goes on at length. You can read the rest of it at: http://www.slowtwitch.com/mainheadings/features/health_doping_slowtwitch2.html As for me, I am off to break the land speed record for Spareribs with a sub-14 minute five-miler! Indulged myself today by ordering new custom license plates for my new car: RIBZ Spareribs
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Dark Horse
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posted Sep-08-2007 06:50 AM
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Originally posted by Spareribs:
Indulged myself today by ordering new custom license plates for my new car: RIBZ
Ribs, I have custom plates but I think I was smarter when I had National Guard plates. Few if any cops will give a ticket to drivers with military plates. Six years ago I was at fault in a fairly serious accident--no one was hurt, but the other car was totalled--and I walked away without even a traffic ticket. I was in uniform and my car had National Guard plates. (Note: It was a drill weekend, I was overtired, and the car in front of me had signalled left but stopped dead in the middle of turning. I plowed into the car's right rear.) Best of all is having Medal of Honor plates, which, sadly, I am not yet eligible for. There's a story that a Massachusetts state cop once stopped a car with Medal of Honor plates that was doing 75 in a 55 mph zone. "Did you win the Medal of Honor?" asked the cop. "Yes," replied the driver. The cop digested that information. "Well, keep it to 55 on my highway," he finally said, and stalked away. There is only a handful of Medal of Honor winners in the military at any given time, because not only is the award rare, but usually you have to die to get it. Medal of Honor recipents are unique in a few ways. Superior officers have to salute a Medal of Honor recipient. Even the President, the Commander in Chief, has to salute a Medal of Honor recipient. During barracks inspections, a Medal of Honor recipient doesn't have to clean up. He can leave his bunk unmade and his gear in a heap. He only has to drape his Medal of Honor over the mess, and it is overlooked. Dark Horse ------------------
I'm a dark horse, running on a dark race course [This message has been edited by Dark Horse (edited Sep-08-2007).]
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Rich in NH
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posted Sep-08-2007 08:15 AM
Quote: "You may feel like a stud now with your shaved legs and your magic marker biceps"...Hmmm... shaved legs will make me fast? Naw...  Saturday, 2 miles this morning to stay loose, 8:45, 7:51. Running a 10K tomorrow am.
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euphoric
Cool Runner |
posted Sep-08-2007 08:56 AM
I was trying to be nice.
Rich, it can't hurt to try a shave. Swimmers and cycle guys do it. Might cut down on your drag. It's the regrowth that will drive you crazy.
A very easy day for me today.
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bobscamman
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posted Sep-08-2007 09:27 AM
Saturday - 73 Degrees & Very Humid. 8.18 Slow recovery miles - 1:12:01 - (8:48)
HR - 123 / 139 Glad to get it out of the way early...it will be brutal later today! ------------------
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fredurie
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posted Sep-08-2007 10:46 AM
Saturday, September 8AM 22 miles @ 7:20 to 8:50, 70F and 73% El bonko at 17. Bad chafing = blood filled shorts. I don't think that the distance thing is working.
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fredurie
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posted Sep-08-2007 10:52 AM
I don't run for fitness or to stop aging. I run because I love the sport.Today I was humbled by a 62 year old who pulled away from me at 17. MALE AGE GROUP: 60 - 64 Crim 10 Mile
Place Oall Name City Ag Half Guntime Time Pace 1 206 Paul Deladurantaye Wyandotte 61 32:01 1:05:18 1:05:16 6:32 2 583 Allan Taverner Windsor 62 35:49 1:13:18 1:13:13 7:20 [This message has been edited by fredurie (edited Sep-08-2007).]
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jpgarland
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posted Sep-08-2007 11:06 AM
I'm with Fred on this. I just run.DH, am I mistaken or isn't the president a civilian and therefore not supposed to be saluting, or be saluted by, anyone?
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Dark Horse
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posted Sep-08-2007 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by jpgarland:
DH, am I mistaken or isn't the president a civilian and therefore not supposed to be saluting, or be saluted by, anyone?
You are mistaken. Dark Horse ------------------
I'm a dark horse, running on a dark race course
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Jim24315
Cool Runner |
posted Sep-08-2007 01:22 PM
I run for the t-shirtsSaturday - 12 miles on the track, including 6 x 1600 x 200 jog (6:38, 6:37, 6:38, 6:37, 6:38, 6:38)
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Spareribs
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posted Sep-08-2007 01:45 PM
The President has an official military rank as Commander in Chief. Also, I learned it is a faux pas to say "Congressional Medal of Honor" instead of "Medal of Honor". In addition to the custom plates I am now thinking of ordering handicap plates with that little wheelchair on them so I can get good parking places. It just seems to me that the handicapped people get all the good breaks. Five miles in 1:06:05, or 13:13 per mile. This is because I had marches on my iPod I think, which really help you to stay focused on form and staying on pace. I am pretty excited about this. Tomorrow I will try to break 13's. I'm sure this must seem ridiculous to the rest of you, but I am having fun at this, learning to walk faster. Spareribs
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