Community: Exchange advice in the forums and read running commentary Resources: Personal running log, calculators, links and other tools for runners News: Running news from around the world Training: Articles and advice about fitness, race training and injury prevention Races/Results: Find upcoming races and past results Home: The Cool Running homepage


Cool Running homepage
Community
discussion forumsviewpoint
| > rules | > faq | > e-mail to a friend | moderator: hally, hup

Estes Park - Tough course and a Special Time

Post a new topic    
> next newest topic | > next oldest topic
Author Topic:   Estes Park - Tough course and a Special Time
TomD
Cool Runner
posted Jun-18-2007 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomD   Click Here to Email TomD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Donna and I got to meet divechief and arf the night before the Estes Park Marathon. We went out to eat and had a great time. Estes Park was a beautiful place. Very scenic.

The course was much tougher than I expected. There were a series of challenging hills in the first 6 miles. Between Mile 16 and Mile 20 there was a 3 mile hill that seemed like it would never end. The atitude was there to slow me down too. It was hot and sunny with some very strong gusts of wind throughout the marathon. I was told to adjust my expected time by 15 minutes, because of the atitude. So I altered my goal time from 4:35 to 4:50.

It was around 60 degrees at the start and 80 at the finish. It was very sunny and windy too. It seemed like the wind was almost always in your face.

My first two miles time was 18:44, then I slowed down to 11+ minutes miles the next 4 miles. At mile 6 I was at 1:04. Mile 7 was a little better at 10 minutes. Then I hit some nice down hill for the next 4 miles. I ran 8:37, 8:08, 8:52, and 9:15. In mile 8 a gust of wind blewing half way across the road. Luckily there was no cars coming. Then in mile 10 I see an elk crossing the road like he owned it. He just stood nearby with another elk and watched me run by. The next 5 miles had some hills and very strong gusts. My times were back to 11 minute miles again.

In the Mile 17 I come upon a hill that seemed like it would never end. By the end of this hill I was near Mile 20 and a time of 3:35. Now it looks like I may have a tough time topping 4:50. In the next two mile there were some more rolling hills and still the wind to deal with. My Mile 22 I am at 3:59.

Now I start picking it up and I am in my zone. I am now passing many runners that are now walkers or slow runners. It really makes me feel good about myself. The course now is flat with some hills here and there. It feels so great to me running strong late in a marathon again. I am now passing runners that left me behind many miles ago. Each mile feels stronger than the previous one. I know my time is slow, but I can just feel like a sub 4:00 is not far off.

As I am coming onto the high school track to the finish there is Donna yelling, "Love that Man". Just before the finish I point at her and shout out "Love that Woman." I fiinish with a 4:40. I was 7th in the 50-59 AG and 47th overall of 120 finishers. I felt very good about my finish.

Donna came in 3rd in her AG in her first 10k. She did the first half in 50 minutes and 45 minutes in the second half for a 1:35 finish. She was pretty excited about it. It was a last minute decision to try the 10k.

Next is Swan Lake in Viborg, SD. I should have a big improvement there.


TomD

IP: Logged

tomwhite
Cool Runner
posted Jun-18-2007 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tomwhite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
..........tomD//............congratulations to you and Donna.......

.............sounds like you're Picking Up Steam..........

IP: Logged

divechief
Cool Runner
posted Jun-18-2007 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for divechief   Click Here to Email divechief     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tom:
It was great meeting you and Donna, Congrats to you and especially to Donna on a well run 10K. It's fantastic the way you were able to pick things up for the last half, we were fading a bit in the heat. Sorry we didn't see you at the finish, but I expect you were long gone by the time we rolled in. I'm sure you will slip under 4:00 on your next. looking forward to seeing you at another race some day
Dave

IP: Logged

Lil Engine
Cool Runner
posted Jun-18-2007 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lil Engine   Click Here to Email Lil Engine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nicely done! With those hills and the altitude, that's a great run!

------------------
My Profile
"I think I can, I think I can"

IP: Logged

Fortunate One
Cool Runner
posted Jun-18-2007 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fortunate One   Click Here to Email Fortunate One     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tom, you are amazing. "In the zone," indeed. Didn't anyone tell you there was very little oxygen at that altitude? I'm glad Donna enjoyed the 10k and that you got to meet more Boomers.

------------------
Fortunate--a volleyballer with a running problem
Profile

IP: Logged

SkipAZ
Cool Runner
posted Jun-18-2007 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkipAZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well done TomD! and a big congrats to Donna on her first 10K! EP is a beautiful place for sure.

Skip

IP: Logged

mrpat
Cool Runner
posted Jun-19-2007 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mrpat   Click Here to Email mrpat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tom, I always enjoy reading your reports. That sounded like a very tough race and I am sure that a sub-4 is just around the corner. I look forward to the part in the race around 20 miles where you get that second wind, must be a very special feeling. Something that I would like to experience someday.

IP: Logged

Ileneforward
Cool Runner
posted Jun-19-2007 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ileneforward     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TomD,
Hilly, at altitude, hot and windy; that sounds like a dream race. The kind of dream you wake up in a sweat from.
But you got to meet some boomers and you finished strong (as usual) so it was an excellent adventure.
And woohooo for Donna's first race. That is so great!
Congratulations to both of you.

------------------
Ilene

IP: Logged

runrgrl1
Cool Runner
posted Jun-19-2007 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for runrgrl1   Click Here to Email runrgrl1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congratulations! That sounded like a very tough run to me. I've run out there before and can't imagine doing a marathon in altitude AND heat AND wind!
Did you have to travel far or are you lucky enough to live nearby?

------------------
"It's never too late to be what you might have been."

IP: Logged

tnally
Cool Runner
posted Jun-19-2007 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tnally   Click Here to Email tnally     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tom,

Well done to both you and Donna. You are still the ultimate running machine.

Tom

IP: Logged

breger1
Cool Runner
posted Jun-19-2007 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for breger1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've visited Estes Park and it is truly heavenly. But I cannot imagine running a marathon there. Too much altitude, too many hills/mountains, and not enough oxygen! Nice run in tough conditions Tom. Congrats to your beautiful bride as well on her nice 10K.

Bill

------------------
Bill's Profile

IP: Logged

Barefoot Rick
Cool Runner
posted Jun-19-2007 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barefoot Rick   Click Here to Email Barefoot Rick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice race Tom. I have been to Estes Park dozens of time and actually lived up there for 6 months going to a bible college. I keep saying I need to get out there for the marathon. Oh well, I will be out there with the family next month.

Congrats to both you an Donna! Her first 10K! Woo Hoo!

Rick

------------------
Barefoot Running ... So easy, a caveman could do it!" - Barefoot Rick @ www.barefootrunner.org

IP: Logged

ksrunr
Cool Runner
posted Jun-19-2007 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ksrunr   Click Here to Email ksrunr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tom and Donna.

Can't add anything that hasn't been said. Congratulations on what seems to be a brutal race/s. I enjoyed your report.

ksrunr
lookin for air in all the wrong places

IP: Logged

Nordic Berserker
Cool Runner
posted Jun-19-2007 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nordic Berserker   Click Here to Email Nordic Berserker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Estes is my former back yard and I know how tough it is to run there. You guys did very well in the altitude.

IP: Logged

wildchild
Cool Runner
posted Jun-19-2007 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wildchild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice report! I live about an hour south of Estes Park, and I ran a local 10K in Rollinsville the same day as the Estes Park marathon. It was definitely hot and windy! But I can't blame my slow time on the altitude - I live higher than I was racing! But I know the altitude can be hard for "flatlanders" - way to go! And imagine how hot it was in the flatlands if it was 80 in the high country.

IP: Logged

DFMAR50
Cool Runner
posted Jun-19-2007 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DFMAR50   Click Here to Email DFMAR50     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, congrats to you and Donna. Looks like there were quite a few of us there. I did the 10K also - and we had the big time head wind for that four or five K going along the north shore of the lake. Then, heading back across the south shore toward the finish, the tail wind I was expecting didn't seem to be there

Anyway, it's always a fun run and lots of great food afterward.

IP: Logged

tselbs
Cool Runner
posted Jun-19-2007 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tselbs   Click Here to Email tselbs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's another great marathon with a strong finish for you, Tom, and a first 10K for Donna. Congratulations to both of you.

TomS

------------------
My Profile

IP: Logged

TomD
Cool Runner
posted Jun-19-2007 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomD   Click Here to Email TomD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
runrgrl1,

No, it was not in our backyard. We left Kansas City at 4:20am and arrived 12 hours later. We left shortly after I finished and got home at 1:15am Monday. I got up for work at 6:00am. I am still kind of tired for we had dinner guests Monday evening. I am off tomorrow, so I will put some miles in tomorrow.

Donna is so very proud of finishing her first 10k. I never know when she will decide to run at my marathons.


TomD

IP: Logged

smpankowski
Cool Runner
posted Jun-20-2007 04:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for smpankowski   Click Here to Email smpankowski     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TomD, It sounds like you had a nice run. Very nice job on the hills. Thanks for sharing your event.

------------------
Never regret anything that made you smile, SteveP

My User Profile

IP: Logged

Coastwalker
Cool Runner
posted Jun-20-2007 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coastwalker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Tom,

It was really easy to pick up on your excitement when you got into your zone after mile 22. What a great feeling that must have been! And what greta satisfaction to go cruising by the spent runners who had passed you much earlier in the race!

Congratulations on battling the elements, finishing very strong, and almost hitting your original goal time. Congrats too to Donna on an excellent run and negative splits in her first 10K! What a team!!!

Jay

IP: Logged

Karl Rysted
Cool Runner
posted Jun-20-2007 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karl Rysted   Click Here to Email Karl Rysted     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congrats to you and Donna. You both took on a huge challenge and overcame it very well!

------------------
My Profile

IP: Logged

littlerockgm
Cool Runner
posted Jun-20-2007 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlerockgm   Click Here to Email littlerockgm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Way to go Donna! Now we are looking for you to do a half at Wynne.... Tom, another nice effort and great job. Nice that you are getting back in the groove, I know how you longed for the opportunity to run daily but were inhibited by work....way to go guy, way to go.

Good running all,
Jim

IP: Logged

arf 1
Cool Runner
posted Jun-21-2007 02:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for arf 1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tom - it was SO great to meet you and Donna, you are very special people! Congrats on feeling so strong towards the end of the race, the heat and altitude absolutely did me in.

http://www.eventpictures.com/app/event/zoomPictures?eventInstanceId=8688&picture=1937068#start

not sure if that will work, but it's a great pic of the 3 of us, very early in the race.

Tell Donna she's a super star! What a difficult race to attempt her first 10 K, and she finished in style! I hope to meet up with you 2 again real soon! Good luck at your races this year!

arf

IP: Logged

All times are Eastern Time (US). > next newest topic | > next oldest topic
Post a new topic    
Administrative Options: > Close Topic | > Archive/Move | > Delete Topic

Hop to:  
Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000
Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.47d

race directors shop my profile
Sponsored By

| subscribe to the newsletter | subscribe to the news feeds | | about cool running | advertise | race directors | contact us | terms and conditions | privacy |
© 1995-2009, Cool Sports, Inc. All rights reserved. i