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Iron Horse HM - A lesson learned

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UncleSteve57
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posted Jun-04-2007 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for UncleSteve57   Click Here to Email UncleSteve57     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of the basic rules of road racing is "Have a clear, realistic goal." Yesterday I went into the Iron Horse HM with two goals percolating in my brain, one of them quite unrealistic for me at this time. And I learned the hard way why the rule exists.

May was a very good month for me: 3 PRs on 3 consecutive weekends at 3 different distances. First at 10K, then 5K, then the Vermont City marathon. I was hoping to complete 'the cycle' with a PR for the HM in the Iron Horse in Simsbury, CT. My current PR is 2:09:30, but I felt I was in shape to better that. Also looming in my addled brain, however, was the dream of running my first sub 2 half. After all, at VCM the previous weekend I had cut my marathon PR by 36 minutes...surely I could cut just 10 minutes from my HM PR.

The flaw here, of course, is in the math; I wasn't comparing apples to apples. My previous marathon PR averaged to 12 minute miles; the HM PR averaged to 9:53. To improve on the marathon pace was 'relatively' easy. To improve on the HM pace was much tougher, but doable. To consider lowering it to 9:10 per mile for a sub 2 was simply irrational for me right now, especially just a week after VCM.

So as I waited for the starting gun, I had two goals competing in my head: the PR and the sub 2. Guess which one I chased.

My splits:
1 9:22
2 9:21
3 9:06
4 9:10
5 9:13
6 9:56
7 9:46
8 10:18
9 10:18
10 10:36
11 10:21
12 11:15
13 10:14

Final time: 2:12:55 10:09/mile

Well, lesson learned. And that's more important than a PR.

Steve

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tselbs
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posted Jun-04-2007 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tselbs   Click Here to Email tselbs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
UncleSteve, you ran a nice half even though it wasn't what you wanted. You've sure had a nice 3 weeks racing. I wouldn't be suprised if that took a lot out of you. That said, you did learn something. Goals are important, but they need to be realistic or you set yourself up for disappointment. With a little more training and with a rested body, you'll get that half PR. Thanks for posting.

TomS

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Fortunate One
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posted Jun-04-2007 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fortunate One   Click Here to Email Fortunate One     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Oh that a man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a Heaven for?"
-Robert Browning

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wildchild
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posted Jun-04-2007 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wildchild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One thing I've learned from not skiing as well as I'd like: always blame the conditions or the equipment. Poor performance is never due to lack of skill or training! Your race was only a week after the marathon, plus you didn't mention other factors like hills, wind, or warm temperatures that could have slowed you down as well!

Seriously, though, it sounds like you did well; you tried, and you learned something. And you're trying to share what you learned with the rest of us, although some of us like to learn for ourselves the hard way!

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Spareribs
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posted Jun-04-2007 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spareribs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quite a bold attempt at a PR, given all that racing in May. I thought after reading your RR that that was the obstacle, not that your PR in the half had been much faster in min/mile. I hope you recover now, and make the attempt again. 3 races in a month, including a marathon is a lot of tough running. Spareribs

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ksrunr
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posted Jun-04-2007 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ksrunr   Click Here to Email ksrunr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ditto what ribs said. I would have said it but he says it so much better. Too many races too close together is a recipe for eventual disaster.

ksrunr
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Ileneforward
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posted Jun-04-2007 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ileneforward     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is actually an excellent job considering you just ran a marathon the weekend before. What kind of crazy person races a half marathon only a week after a marathon? Sheesh!
Congratulations on getting so close to your PR and staying uninjured. Oh and relearning a lesson too.

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SkipAZ
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posted Jun-04-2007 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkipAZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Steve - EVERY race is a learning experience with good and bad in each. To come that close to your PR after a pretty intense month of racing is a darn fine performance. Pick another half a little later in the season and I think that sub 2 could be yours. Good luck!

Skip

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Canfit
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posted Jun-04-2007 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canfit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't imagine 'racing' a HM only a week after a marathon. You've obviously made great progress recently. Just give yourself a little recovery time and I'm confident your sub-2 will be there. Good luck ...and keep running!
PJ

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Tetsujin30
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posted Jun-04-2007 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tetsujin30   Click Here to Email Tetsujin30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ileneforward:
What kind of crazy person races a half marathon only a week after a marathon? Sheesh!

You matched one of the goddesses (were there any hills though in the half too?), . . . and you still have four weeks to catch up to Robin's 4PR's in 7 weeks.

Doesn't matter though as you'll remember the half long after the PR's have become just numbers, if that.

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melistic
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posted Jun-04-2007 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for melistic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You sucked me in again. You Boomer's are cool.

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RunBobaluRun
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posted Jun-04-2007 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunBobaluRun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Same thing happened to me in 2005. We live and we learn. Still, you ran tough and you tried hard. So I say congradulations to you for pushing through when others may have quit.

Bob

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UncleSteve57
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posted Jun-05-2007 07:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for UncleSteve57   Click Here to Email UncleSteve57     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the replies everyone. I'm sure you are all quite correct in that 4 races in 4 weeks, especially a HM following VCM, was asking alot from this old bod.

So this week is a pure recovery week...maybe 15 very easy miles total. But then I'll start setting my sights on Hartford in October.

Steve

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choover
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posted Jun-06-2007 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for choover     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are a busy guy.

Looking at your splits, you only had one or two tough miles out of 13 which cost you a little time. If you had been more rested going into this you would've PR'd for sure.

Congrats on a great month of running!

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smpankowski
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posted Jun-07-2007 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for smpankowski   Click Here to Email smpankowski     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve, Math on the fly. Wow. The RR is great. Our bodies re only human. Your numbers are still good. Thanks for the RR

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