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busiman
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posted Apr-19-2007 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for busiman   Click Here to Email busiman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Boston Race report – slightly Hampered

Short version
Other than recurring ham issues, ran mostly as planned.

Time: 3:19:40
Overall: 3349
Gender: 3036
Age Div: 958

(much) Longer version

A month ago in a half-marathon I used as a test race, I tore my left hamstring. Fortunately it was a light enough tear that I had time to recover (and thanks to a great PT group). By last week I could barely notice any difference vs. the other side, so it was “game on” for Boston.
I’m lucky enough to run with the BAA club and very grateful for it. The track workouts, long runs, and support have made a huge difference in my fitness level this year.

My plan was to hit 3:10. Given the weather conditions I had no idea if that was possible.

Last year I ran for my dad and was pretty emotional about it. This year I brought him along for the ride for inspiration, but it wasn’t as big as my first Boston.

Start
I woke up in the middle of the night when a branch fell on our roof and then rolled down and off. The wind was howling and I thought, “Oh man, this is going to be crazy today…”
I had almost all of my running gear laid out and way too many options for if the weather got better or worse. My orange transport bag they provided was packed to the top. After leaving the house I panicked a bit in the morning thinking I should have worn a heavier shirt. Everything was packed so no more time to vacillate. My (very supportive) wife drove me to as close to the start as she could get.
I walked with another runner to the middle school. It was his very first marathon and had only done one long run (19miles ‘and it nearly killed me’). I gave him some advice about how he could get through it. Hopefully he at least finished, but there was little doubt he was in for an adventure.
Rain mostly wasn’t too big of a deal waiting around. I hung out with the team and was feeling pretty Zen about the day. It felt like tights would be too hot so I crammed them into the bag as well. I donned a trash bag and headed to the start line.
Because of the low clouds and such they didn’t have a fly-over. They are so much fun to watch, but they would have had to be clipping the treetops to be seen.
With twenty minutes to go the rain picked up. I tossed the trash bag to the sidelines at the last minute before moving across the start line. The funny thing was seeing the street littered with ponchos, sweatshirts, hats, and gloves. I started wondered what they were still wearing up front. ☺
It was pretty slow going for the first mile, mostly dancing over the clothes and streams of water. I’m sure a number of people must have been tripped up.
After two miles it thinned out and I started to crank away the miles at close to the planned 7:00 per. Quite a few I hit right on the money. I felt strong, relaxed and in the zone (probably just like everyone does in the beginning)

I had trained for this pace, but it still felt like I was passing way too many people. Ashland, Framingham, and Natick all zipped by without issues. I missed friends and my family that were going to say hello on the course. While I was right on time going through Natick, I was on the wrong side of the road to see my wife. I really wanted to see them, as standing in the cold rain is tougher on the spectators.

Mile/time/heart rate
1 07:57 141
2 07:20 154
3 07:08 154
4 07:00 155
5 07:15 157
6 06:52 159
7 06:48 160
8 07:16 157
9 06:55 158
10 06:57 158
11 07:03 157
12 06:55 157
13 07:10 158
Half – 1:33:20

Moving through Wellesley I was bummed out that I wasn’t seeing anyone I know. I realize I need to chat with people during a marathon to stay out of my head a bit more. Especially true in the middle miles that seem to drag on and on.

Wellesley College is always a hoot, lots of high fives and screams. After crossing the halfway point I popped another gel with some water. I climbed the first major hill to Newton then had to duck into a port-o-john (only 32 seconds lost). Feeling more comfortable, I counted out the first hills staying close to pace. Hey, maybe I’ll hit this goal after all…sshhh.

Before reaching the final hill, I saw the Pro’s team flag. I was prepping to stop and search for a table or what ever was needed to get that bottle (I missed it last year). Before I got there a nice guy popped up running beside me “Here you go Craig! How are you? You’re looking great!” It was truly inspiring support. I got some jealous comments from others as we ran up the hill about how nice it must be. The Gatorade tasted great!
Going up rest of the hills, runners were spread out enough that the gusty wind was getting tiresome. My hope of a tailwind was just that only a hope.

Going by Boston College and beyond I was getting hungrier at this point and gobbled down the remaining gels as I walked through a water station. Being hungry is never a good sign.

Ham cramp
I kept the pace going along, with five to go I was pretty much on track to do close to 3:10 or 12. Math is always tough to do near the end of a marathon.
After mile 22 or 23, my right ham cramped hard without warning signs. I hopped for a few feet over to a light pole and tried to get it to relax, but it wasn’t listening to me. A couple of spectators and a nice policeman offered to help me to a med tent.
Luckily an extremely generous teammate came by and went to work on it. He worked out the knot and within a minute or two we were off. I’m not sure if I would have DNF’d without his help, but it would have been a long time before I was going to move.
It briefly cramped again trying to get over the bridge to Kenmore Square, but walking got me by. Once I was on the other side of the bridge I easily picked up the pace again (funny how you use different muscles on even gentle grades vs. flats).

Finishing up
After coming up from the Mass Ave under-pass, I was feeling very hungry (need to eat more gel next time). As I turned right onto Hereford Street somebody yelled “Only 1K to the finish after the corner!” I made the turn onto Boylston and saw the finish line in the far far distance (that’s no 1k! :-P). Typical end-of-marathon thoughts flowed into my head “Why the hello do we do this?” and “What in the world am I thinking about doing another @#*&$% marathon in six weeks?” One of the best things about the finish area is that the screams in the crowd can be even louder than the voice in your head!

I knew a 3:10 was out of the question as was my pr (3:17), but my time from last year (3:20) was still a possibility. I had a minute or so on my watch, so I got up as much speed as I had left and squeezed it out. I hit the button on my watch and it literally showed 3:19:59!

Best sitcom moment:
My ham was sore and I was spent. I wandered over to what I thought was the team’s tent. A nice woman with a clipboard said, “What can I get you?” To which I said, “err…just a place to sit down and some food?” She then looked at me funny, “We only have some soup. Is there something WRONG with you?” I won’t say what I was thinking, but after a pregnant pause we both realized I didn’t want the Med tent. We chuckled and I was pointed to the next tent. :-P

I gobbled down at least a thousand calories and enjoyed a nice massage. I also got a chance to thanks my teammate, who finished a couple minutes behind me.

14 07:09 156
15 07:20 151
16 08:10 149 <- pitstop
17 07:50 151
18 07:59 152
19 08:20 151
20 08:36 151
21 07:26 149
22 07:25 150
23 08:03 149
24 10:12 143 <- cramp here, but I may have missed the mile mark
25 08:15 143
26 08:36 142
26.2 01:43 144
Finish 3:19:40 (avg HR 153)

Notes
Its now a few days later, my legs recovered faster than other marathons. Those nutty thoughts at the end of the race are a funny memory. After six marathons, I’m ever closer to running out of rookie mistakes. Between the setbacks from wind and my ham issue, I’m happy with how the race went. I know 3:10 and lower is a real possibility if conditions allow.

Figuring out my ham issues is priority one. My yoga-grounded wife thinks it could be my gait (too stiff). It is definitely impacted by my range of motion. Hopefully building on the PT exercises and stretching will help. (suggestions welcome)

A couple of lessons from this one:
o On rainy days there is no such thing as too much BodyGlide
o Feeling slightly cold at the beginning probably means the clothing is just right.
o For me, I think one gel just before the start then four gels spaced earlier in the race would be better. Eating after mile 24 probably has no real impact. :-P
o Find a couple of similarly paced runners to talk to during the next marathon. Nothing like running with somebody to keep you from going too fast or getting lost in your head.
o A good bottle at the 20-mile can really break up the race. (thanks Pro crew!)

I’m sure most of you can relate to the stress and load we put on our families, so a big thank you to my wife and kids for putting up with my training.

The Vermont City Marathon is in six weeks and should be a blast! We’ll probably have a party/cookout Sunday afternoon if anyone else will be up there. (let me know!).


(sorry for the length)

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tomwhite
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posted Apr-19-2007 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tomwhite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
,,,,,,,great splits//...........sorry you were injured, but you ran a consistent race............nice racing......

........Rest and Heal........

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Dark Horse
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posted Apr-19-2007 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dark Horse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Busiman,

Very interesting race report. I always learn more from reading about races with problems, than races where everything goes right. Here it sounds like you overcame your problems, with a little help from your friend.

After running my first marathon on Monday, I'm still mystified about a lot of the issues that others talk about. Probably I just didn't run fast enough (3:57) to have the same issues as faster runners.

I had no chafing, no bloody n*pples, no blisters, no cramps, and encountered no "wall." I ate only four small Girl Scout cookies during the race, and drank a cup of water or Gatorade every mile and a half at the water stops. Probably because I had no meal the day of the race, I didn't need to take a potty break.

I think most of the issues people mention start to arise when people run faster than I did. If I were running 8-minute miles rather than 9-minute miles, then I might be facing cramps, and might need to eat more during the race, etc.

My race problems were mainly joint pain, as usual.

Just thinking out loud here, as I ponder the mysteries of the marathon.

Dark Horse

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mcsolar99
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posted Apr-19-2007 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mcsolar99   Click Here to Email mcsolar99     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nice job busiman; good splits except for cramp-mile.

i can't help but wonder what kind of comments she got; asking "is the something wrong with you" to a bunch of marathoners running in those conditions.

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hally
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posted Apr-19-2007 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hally   Click Here to Email hally     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Craig, I loved your report, another that has me with a tear in my eye. That guy puts the T in teamate for sure stopping to massage your hammy.

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choover
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posted Apr-19-2007 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for choover     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Busiman,

Great race and nice RR! Too bad about the hamstring problem but at least you were able to finish with a time better than last year's. Sounds like you've learned some good things for next time too. I agree that being chilly at the start of a race is best.

Nice job!

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cajohnson5
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posted Apr-19-2007 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cajohnson5   Click Here to Email cajohnson5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry you were on the wrong side of the road to see your DW. Sounds like Pro's team was really a godsend to all of the runners. This sure is a great group. Really enjoyed your RR. Hope you get your ham issues straightened out before VCM. Good luck there! cj

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posted Apr-20-2007 06:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rtravers   Click Here to Email rtravers     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From what I'm hearing on the boards as well as from my running team, 9 minutes off of your goal pace was pretty typical for Boston 2007. So, I'm counting this one as actually reaching your goal!

I loved your immediate post-race thoughts. I think those are pretty darned typical in the minutes after crossing the finish line, and it's so funny to see them transform into planning for one's next marathon so quickly.

Bravo!

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posted Apr-20-2007 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spareribs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A very good race under the circumstances. I sure recall your race last year and how emotional it was for you. It was good you were able to keep moving after the cramp and finish so well, but what is really impressive and useful about this report is how you have documented your thoughts and what you learned from this experience. Everyone should do this.

Just as a point of interest, when you make that final left turn, how far do you think it is to the finish? It seemed like 1K or so to me. Is it longer? Great report. Spareribs

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posted Apr-20-2007 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SueT48   Click Here to Email SueT48     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry about the hamstring issue - those darn hammies can be so uncooperative. Hope you can solve the problem before the next marathon. Great race report!

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busiman
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posted Apr-20-2007 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for busiman   Click Here to Email busiman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Tom!
DarkHorse, I'm glad your days was mostly problem-free. My metabolism burns a bit high anyway, so in a marathon I just need to compensate to eat more.
Thanks MC, She really did emphasize the word WRONG. It would have been much funnier if I wasn't so dazed and confused at the time.
Thanks Hally, yeah he was great. I'm going to buy him a Guiness when I catch up with him next week.
Thanks Choover, CJ, and Sue, The more time and distance from my ham tear should help as well.
Robin, yes, without the weather and ham I'm confident I would have nailed 3:10.
SpareRibs, It is actually just .64km after Hereford St., but I think that busiman's Theory of Marathon Relativity will show that one kilometer near the end of a marathon is twice the length than one at the start. :-)

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posted Apr-20-2007 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nickofari   Click Here to Email Nickofari     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
busiman. nice summary. I am blown away by how similar your goals and experience was to mine. I was in the 7th corral, and finished at 3:19 as well. The only difference was that my splits were a little closer - pretty consistent 7:32s - except through the hills where only slightly slower, and faster on the last two miles. I was really shooting for 3:10 or better, but as it was my first marathon, I am not beating myself up about it. As soon as the race started, I realized why other runners comment about why it is a hard course to PR on - there are so many people, on such narrow roads - for the entire race! Actually, I was baffled as to why I was passing so many runners in lower corrals. They were clearly not running the same pace. How did they get lower numbers?

My opinion on your other points:
Regarding the gels - I think you are right. I had one just before the race, and 4 spaced throughout. I also ate
Regarding bathroom breaks - don't do it. It is just extra motivation to go faster! ;-0

I was a little disappointed not to have requalified for next year, but will likely run another one this fall - DC or Portland, ME.
My post-race takeaways:
Track training. I didn't do any. I ran intervals once a week on the road, but not religiously. I believe that this will make me faster.
Downhill training. I ran lots of hills, and that paid off -- going up anyway. I need to figure out the downhill run training as well.
Knowing the course. Hey, now I do - with a headwind. Look out next time.
Best, and good job.
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posted Apr-20-2007 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sans Souci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
busiman, I'd be interested to know what you ate pre-race. You didn't mention this.

Would you be amenable to a yoga or Pilates session? I've been attending a Stott Pilates session regularly and find it has helped immensely, including hamstring strength and flexibility. It doesn't hurt that my instructor is an accomplished triathlete and understands running and what we need. Maybe there's a class designed specifically for runners near you (?)

Darn Mile 22. It bit me too. But you did get through and improved on last year's time. It was nice to have met you at brunch.

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posted Apr-20-2007 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lil Engine   Click Here to Email Lil Engine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice race! Under those conditions, and with that hammy problem...amazing! And what a nice team mate you have.

Congrats!

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posted Apr-20-2007 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jdmom3     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Busiman, thank you for this thorough and well written report. I love reading reports like this where you get to follow along the course with the writer and get a sense for how he felt at each mile. You did a terrific job under the circumstances, particularly gutting it out those last few miles with a cramp. I think your take away points are right on the money. It's always best to feel a bit cold at the start and it seems clear that shorts were the right choice (given the number of reports here about getting too hot). I always like to find someone to talk to during the race and that certainly should not be a problem at Boston! Anyway, congratulations on a great race. I hope the hammy heals up well for VCM.

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posted Apr-20-2007 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for busiman   Click Here to Email busiman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nickofari, that was stunningly great for your first marathon! congrats! As far as the bathroom breaks, when you gots to go you gots to go. A half minute was a no-brainer compared to holding it for 10 or 11 more miles.
And not BQing with a 3:19? You must be a youngster. :-) If you're in the area, maybe I'll see you at a local race.

Thanks SS, yes, now that you mention it. I'll probably go to a yoga session or two with my wife. She can teach as well, so maybe I'll get a custom class!

Thanks Lil Engine, yes it was a very self-less thing to do, great teammate.

Thanks Meg, I wrote some of those notes so that I'd work them into the VCM plan before I forgot :-P I'm feeling energetic again and can't wait for it!

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posted Apr-20-2007 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for egrd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Busiman, you ran a great race, taking all that cropped up well in stride and coming away with more information for your next effort. You'll have your PhD soon enough
What a great help your club-mate was. ANd I second the idea of getting in some pilates and focussing on a core and stability regime.
Best of luck in VCM!
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posted Apr-20-2007 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MarkGuy   Click Here to Email MarkGuy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Busiman, nice report. I am not a heart rate expert but it looks like you are in amazing shape. What great luck that your teammate showed up. It really saved a great race. Have fun during the VCM weekend.

Mark

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posted Apr-20-2007 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tselbs   Click Here to Email tselbs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
busi, you did well. I enjoyed your report and thoughts as you progressed through the race. It's too bad about the hamstring cramp, but you got through it with the help of a teammate. Between that and the wind, beating last year's time is quite an accomplishment. Congratulations.

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posted Apr-20-2007 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PBJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Craig - what an excellent race report. Sorry to hear about the hammy. You'll conquer it soon enough - I predict within 5 weeks!

See you in Burlington? Did you say cookout?

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posted Apr-20-2007 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Econo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
busiman, I think it's funny that you realized you needed someone to talk with during the marathon. I'm the opposite -- I'll make jokes here & there along the way, but deliberately avoid running with someone because talking exhausts me during a race! We all draw strength from different things...

Ya done good. You'll clear that 3:10 like a low hurdle at VCM.

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posted Apr-21-2007 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vista129   Click Here to Email vista129     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good RR

CONGRATULATIONS on a nice race.

I enjoyed reliving the whole experience. I can relate to running out of rookie mistakes. EVENTUALLY we hopefully learn something but I suspect in reality just as we get to the stage of having learned everything, that is when the phrase "I forgot" starts entering in.

It is interesting that you needed to find someone to talk to. I am usually trying to avoid someone who will require me to say MUCH. I like to make some brief, short back and forth stuff, but then to make sure I don't wear out from talking...I "run along".

Good stuff....Thanks for sharing


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posted Apr-21-2007 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkipAZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Craig - Nice race! Sorry about the crampy hammy. Excellent race report - I appreciate all the details and lessons learned. Might have an idea for item 4 for VCM - will email you later on that. VCM is just around the corner - get that hammy back in line.

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posted Apr-22-2007 01:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jura   Click Here to Email jura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Craig,
a very well put together report, with advice for others, thanks. The highlight for me was how a teammate put his own race second for the sake of helping a fellow runner. What a selfless gesture! An excellent time and definitelty potential for a faster race. Looking forward to the next RR in 6 weeks!
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posted Apr-22-2007 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dtoce     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
great race, Craig.

More and better racing is heading your way as you get even more fit and can deal with the leg issue. You are certainly faster than the time indicated.

Congratulations!

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