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Running with Hermosaboy in Boston RR


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johnmaas
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posted Apr-19-2007 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnmaas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Boston Marathon Race report:
Short version:
3:12:09 chip time Course PR by 4:09
2,153 / 20,640 OA
2,008 / 12,567 Gender
540 / 4,584 AG
Long version:
This year, my DW, DS1 and DS2 traveled with me to Boston for my second running of the Boston Marathon.
Hermosaboy and I had planned to run the first 21 miles of the course on an average pace of 7:20/mile. With the strong headwinds forecast for the race, I knew it would be difficult to hold this sort of pace, especially when we would tackle the Newton Hills.
Hemosa and I worked together quite well as a team, as mentioned in his RR.
Don’t listen to him complain about me mooching a nice draft from him! You all know he’s such an accomplished runner, that he doesn’t need any help at all!
My goal for the race was to run a 3:12 and we were using the pace splits based slightly on effort, aiming to hit mile splits ranging from 7:09 to 7:39 per mile.
We had a good system going, I would tell him the upcoming mile split goal and he would execute the plan perfectly. He didn’t miss by more than 6 seconds on any individual mile!!!
I also told him that I needed to watch my heart rate during the run, and make sure that I don’t go over 170 for any sustained period of time.
Early on, the HR stayed in check. But when we hit the hill at mile 4.5, I noticed it went up to 175. I chose not to tell Hermosa about it, I figured it would drop back down.
It went back down to 170, but after that I had a real hard time keeping my HR below 167, except on the long downhill sections.
We kept moving along, hitting our splits quite well and accumulating about 20 seconds in the bank. Around mile 14, I shouted to Hermosa that we had about 20 seconds in the bank. A guy next to me says, “That sounds great, but I’m really worried about inflation hitting us later on.” I found his comment pretty amusing, but deep down I was a bit worried about the upcoming inflation rates also.
One of the biggest highlights was when we hit the Boomer Water Stop at Mile 20. Many THANKS to Pro and his excellent crew!!!!!!!
Hermosa spotted it first and we veered off to the left. I knew I would need my second Clif shot before going up Heartbreak, so I wanted to use the water to wash it down. I think it was Stuart (the guy with the beard) that handed me my care package at the Water Stop. I put the banana in my pocket, and was trying to fiddle with the water and gel pack at the same time.
The banana then fell out of my pocket, but Hermosa saved the day by offering me half of his.
Heartbreak was tough, and I managed to stay within 20 yards of Hermosaboy when we hit the top.
While approaching the Mile 21 marker, I noticed an orange glow ahead as Hermosaboy turned on the afterburners and “dropped the hammer”.
I was going into survival mode and was on the verge of cramping badly while going past Boston College. I was losing some time from my intended pace now, but not too bad.
The spectators were getting really loud on the final miles, and they lifted my spirits. The long-awaited turn from Hereford to Boylston had now arrived and I took to the center of the street to spot the finish line. Then, I heard familiar voices yelling at me from my right!!! Sure enough it was DW, DS1 and DS2 yelling, screaming, jumping, and going absolutely nuts! DW had a camera, clicked off about 3 shots, but she was so excited that none of the pictures even had a glimpse of me in them!!
Yea, I got soggy eyes after seeing them. There was just too much emotion with them being so excited and the finish line in sight. It must have really pumped me up, as I ran the last 1.3639 miles in 9:54 (7:15/mile).
Overall average HR was 169, which is an all-time high for the marathon distance.

Last but not least, the Fashion Report for Ilene:
Blue/White Brooks Burn 3 shoes,
Mini-crew Wright socks with Freedom Run lunch bags over them,
Grey MUG,
Black 9-inch inseam running shorts,
Goldenrod Under Armour long sleeve top,
Garmin 305,
Fuel belt with Gatorade Endurance Formula (lemon-lime),
Mizuno running gloves,
Timex running cap sometimes topped with Black Nike stocking cap,
And the 55 gallon garbage bag that was shed in the starting corral.

Thanks for reading.
John

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Aamos
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posted Apr-19-2007 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aamos   Click Here to Email Aamos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the heartrate is due to the excitement of Boston. Great race and report.
Big congrats to you!
grins,
A

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Lil Engine
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posted Apr-19-2007 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lil Engine   Click Here to Email Lil Engine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow! You're goal time was 3:12, and you finished in 3:12:09? That's what I call nailing a goal! Excellent run, and it sounds like you had a fine time. Congrats!

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ksrunr
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posted Apr-19-2007 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ksrunr   Click Here to Email ksrunr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congratulations on your marathon. Sounds like it was well executed except for the banana! Drafting is allowed in marathons as well. Great report.

ksrunr

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hermosaboy
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posted Apr-19-2007 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hermosaboy   Click Here to Email hermosaboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by johnmaas:
Don’t listen to him complain about me mooching a nice draft from him! You all know he’s such an accomplished runner, that he doesn’t need any help at all!

Well, then there was the complaining from someone that I need to be taller and wider next time.

See, you can still see John in the picture:


Greta job of sticking with it John! Gotta love a hugh course PR!!!

See you at some races this summer!

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perchcreek
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posted Apr-19-2007 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for perchcreek   Click Here to Email perchcreek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congratulations John on nailing your goal! It must have been wonderful to run so long with Hermosa and execute such a greta plan! Really enjoyed your RR.
Steve

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hally
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posted Apr-19-2007 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hally   Click Here to Email hally     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
John you really nailed your goal and wrote a RR that had me there with you. How great is it to have a running partner like the speedy Hermosaboy run with you for 21 miles. And the family waiting for you at the finish, priceless.

Barb

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Ileneforward
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posted Apr-19-2007 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ileneforward     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What an excellent race you ran! Smart, determined and tough. And you write one of the very best fashion reports too!!
Congratulations on a hugh PR and at Boston no less. You are going to have a great year.

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TammyM
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posted Apr-19-2007 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TammyM   Click Here to Email TammyM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what an excellent RR and a superb performance! You really nailed your goal and ran so strong the entire way. All in a days work right?

Nice job! Congratulation!!!

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arf 1
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posted Apr-19-2007 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for arf 1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congrats on a fantastic race and time John and wonderful that your family could join you this year. I loved the part about your soggy eyes after you saw them screaming and yelling for you. Congrats again.

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Sans Souci
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posted Apr-19-2007 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sans Souci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is that a banana in your pocket or are you ...

Oh, nevermind. I'll behave.

Fantastic report, John, and whopping 4-minute PR. I enjoyed reading about the team approach with hermosaboy. You're right, the dood with the beard is Stuart. Good thing he was paying attention when you arrived.

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hopeful4ever
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posted Apr-19-2007 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hopeful4ever     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Geech, I got all teary eyed reading about you getting all teary eyed . . . .

Congratulations on a HUGH PR John! You ran a great race with Hermosa.

~Mary

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millbot
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posted Apr-19-2007 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for millbot   Click Here to Email millbot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
john, congrats on a fine boston effort, the course pr, and a memorable experience with the family. i hope nobody slipped on that banana.

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mariposai
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posted Apr-19-2007 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mariposai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
John you are not only a great runner, but a great writer as well. I read your report twice, you made me feel like I was right there with you two.
What a team work!!!! What a way to stay focussed to execute a terrific race plan.

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LeftRightRepeat
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posted Apr-19-2007 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeftRightRepeat   Click Here to Email LeftRightRepeat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by johnmaas:
I ran the last 1.3639 miles in 9:54 (7:15/mile).

Uh... Where does that interval start?

Great report! Great run! Way to nail the goal!

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Spareribs
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posted Apr-19-2007 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spareribs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice going John, and I think it is helpful and instructive for you to comment on the benefits of two similarly trained people to help each other in an event like this. Many things have to work out and early discussions are important, but when it can work it is really a boost. You two were wise to adjust the mile averages based on average fluctuations for that course--very smart idea. And of course both runners have to be at about the same ability and have similar goals. I found your report to be very informative on this subject.

Let me also congratulate you on the excellent OA and AG performance. On that day, in those conditions, to meet your goal and then PR too, is very significant. You are near 3 hours on a different course in ideal conditions. Very well done. Spareribs

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Dark Horse
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posted Apr-19-2007 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dark Horse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
John,

Wow, good job of executing your plan. I'd like to run 3:12 at Boston some day.

Er, it's nice that you are in the photo above, but there are a lot of people in that photo. Which one is you?

Dark Horse

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TammyM
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posted Apr-19-2007 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TammyM   Click Here to Email TammyM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DH - based on his fashion report, I'm guessing (and I think this is a pretty good guess), he's the guy sort of third back in that line of guys - black running gloves, goldenrod long sleeved shirt - and you can see "john" on his number bib.

that's just my educated guess though . . .

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Dark Horse
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posted Apr-19-2007 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dark Horse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Tammy! I figured there must be enough information, but I was too lazy to make the effort.

Dark Horse

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hermosaboy
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posted Apr-19-2007 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hermosaboy   Click Here to Email hermosaboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dark Horse:
John,

Wow, good job of executing your plan. I'd like to run 3:12 at Boston some day.

Er, it's nice that you are in the photo above, but there are a lot of people in that photo. Which one is you?

Dark Horse


He's kind of hard to pick out cuz he's drafting off of me. As I recall, the wind was diagonal at that point and he was in the optimal position for me to block it.

Edited to add -- not sure I should have worked with him -- he beat my time from last year by exactly ONE second...

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tselbs
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posted Apr-19-2007 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tselbs   Click Here to Email tselbs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice job, John. What a memorable race, Boston, time right on plan, hermosa to run with, and family at the finish. Congratulations.

TomS

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jemmama
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posted Apr-19-2007 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jemmama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm teary-eyed, too. Thanks for a great RR. What an incredible execution of your plan.

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johnmaas
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posted Apr-19-2007 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnmaas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LeftRightRepeat asked:
quote:
Uh... Where does that interval start?

1.3639 miles is exactly the distance from the 40K mark to the finish line.....
I just took the time difference between my finish and 40K times and divided by 1.3639.
All my other splits from my Garmin 305 are a bit off, as it measured the course at 26.40 miles.
John

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cajohnson5
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posted Apr-19-2007 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cajohnson5   Click Here to Email cajohnson5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
John, you and your bud Hermosaboy are just too cool for words. Really enjoyed reading about your race. Congrats on reaching that goal! cj

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smpankowski
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posted Apr-20-2007 05:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for smpankowski   Click Here to Email smpankowski     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love this RR. Thanks!!!!!

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