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Lngbrdr
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posted Apr-23-2007 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lngbrdr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay I am not sure what the heck is wrong with my hip but I will try and explain. About a month ago I was doing great and then I had my wisdom teeth pulled. I then took a little over a week of running off. However when I started back up I noticed where my hip metts my groin area was always sore. It is the area if you go straight up from the kneecap and then to the outside of my leg. I was stupid and kept exercising for a little over two weeks and it just got worse. I have since stopped.
The problem is I cannot figure out what the heck it could be. The area only is sore/hurts when I am sitting or laying around. The only time I get relief is when I am walking or when I was running. Next ice and ibuprofen does nothing for the pain, so I am thinking it is not due to swelling.
Can anybody help me figure out what this is? And then what do I do to fix it. I was thinking of waiting until the pain subsides and then working on flexibility for a little while and then slowly working back into runnning. I am also wondering should I wait until the pain subsides before stretching, as it might exacerbate it, or should I instead work on my flexibility as it may be the cause.

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Lngbrdr
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posted Apr-25-2007 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lngbrdr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anybody? It's still hurting and I'm still resting.

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ICor1613
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posted May-02-2007 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ICor1613     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lngbrdr:
Anybody? It's still hurting and I'm still resting.

Lngbrdr,

I'm having the same problem. although the pain seems to move around the hip area. The upper quad hurts when I start to walk or run, but loosens up after a few minutes.

I'm still "being stupid" - running. I have added some hip abductor excercises and stretches, but the jury is still out on helping the problem. Ironically, since I am now purposely exercising those muscles, I am probably making them more sore.

I'm going to get a deep massage in the problem area today. I'll let you know if that helps.

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naturegirl711
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posted May-03-2007 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for naturegirl711   Click Here to Email naturegirl711     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i was hoping their would be some sort of an answer here! i am having similar trouble. started several weeks ago but it was more quad/groin/inner thigh. i cant tell exactly where the problem is.....today it is actually more towards the outer part of my thigh.

it gets stiff when i sit and i am nearly limping when i first start jogging. once i warm up it gets much better and then i can run fine. BUT when i finish.....ouch.

i am dumb too. i just keep running. lots of stretching too. dont know what to do. someone suggested it may be due to my sneakers. i dunno.

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Patrick
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posted May-03-2007 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Patrick   Click Here to Email Patrick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

I have been having problems too in the hip/groin area. It started after I twisted and sprained my ankle and, stupidly enough, kept running with it for over an hour. The ankle problem is almost gone (with rest) but now I'm still having trouble with my hip/groin (inside part).
Finally I went to see a physical therapist and the first thing she noticed is that I had a leg length difference. I have solved that by adding "heel blocks" to all of my (right) shoes. This has helped somewhat.
The second thing she noticed was that some of my leg muscles were unusually short and inflexible. So since then I am now stretching my hamstrings and quads everyday, and have added the piriformis since this is also an area where I easily get "injured".
For the rest, I guess the injury is a basic overuse injury, which only surfaced after I had taken a couple of weeks off because of my ankle. It probably was there already. After I took 2 weeks off because of the ankle problem, I started again too much, too soon. I am now *very* gradually building it up again (using a schedule similar to the couch-to-5K schedule posted here).

Summarizing, what I can recommend based on my experience is to check for
- leg length difference
- inflexibility of leg muscles
- basic overuse

Hope it helps!
Good luck with it and if in doubt, do less not more..

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RapaJ
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posted May-03-2007 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RapaJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm having the same problem - on-again/off-again.
It gets much worse when I sit all day at work, or when I drive for a long time.
I often sit with my legs crossed, and this seems to exacerbate it.
I can only assume that this is hip bursitis from overuse.
Any other theories?

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LindsayB
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posted May-03-2007 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LindsayB   Click Here to Email LindsayB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hate to not bring new news...my hip bursitus is mainly b'c I also have an abnormal length difference. After a few deep tissue massages and some new insoles it was ok for a while. If I do certain ab exercises...for ex hanging leg raises...or sprinting then it will act up more. Certain TMs also exacerbate the pain.
I had run long distance for 7 years before I started to experience the groin pain.
Heating pads also helped me.
Oh yes...and there are certain medications that have given me extreme joint pain...the main culprits being Lexapro or Cipro. I had strep once and was given Lexapro...major reaction...extreme ankle and leg pain.
What kind of medication did they have you on after your wisdom teeth were pulled? I would definitely check into that more.

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naturegirl711
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posted May-03-2007 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for naturegirl711   Click Here to Email naturegirl711     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Patrick, thanks for the info! i do actually have a leg length difference but have known about it for years. i have a "lift" that i have to wear in all of my left shoes. my current problem is in my right leg. but now i am wondering if 1. i need new sneakers, better insoles. 2. the lift is worn down and i need to replace it.

i just got back from a lunchtime run and the pain is pretty bad. i dont want to cut back but guess it is inevitable...

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mariposai
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posted May-03-2007 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mariposai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It seems like this is a very common problem with runners. I am also suffering from the same problem. I just ran last Sunday 16 miles of a marathon race with my IB band yelling at me to stop. Four days later the place is still a bit tender, got a sports massage yesterday, which helped a lot and today I did one hour of yoga and the symptom is improving by the hour.

This link has helped me to understand what is going on with my hip and IT band.

http://www.drpribut.com/sports/spitb.html

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Patrick
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posted May-04-2007 03:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Patrick   Click Here to Email Patrick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Naturegirl, I really think you *should* cut back, however painful this is (for me actually the mental pain of not being able to run is maybe greater than the pain after running.. especially now that the running club I belong to is enjoying great runs in great weather.. without me ). However your health is the most important, and you will get back at your previous level if you build it up slowly again.
I also wondered about new running shoes, but since they have about 450 miles on them I think it's okay to run some more, however I will have them checked by the best running shop in my country.
So for me the remedy is: stop running + building back *very* slowly + doing more stretching exercises + doing more strengthening exercises + using insteps + using common sense..
Yesterday my physical therapist scared me by saying it could be the onset of hip "wear" but I'm pretty sure that's not the case.
I'm also a believer in seeking advice from the best qualified professionals, in my country there are specialised sports (running) physiologists that can diagnose these types of injuries much better than your average family doctor or physical therapist..

Good luck & take it easy (I forced myself to enjoy the extra time I gained by not running, catching up on chores/activities that I kept putting off, and cross-training more by spinning). You could enjoy lunchtime by taking a walk and enjoying the scenery ..

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naturegirl711
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posted May-04-2007 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for naturegirl711   Click Here to Email naturegirl711     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sadly i know you are right. i did not run this morning. i walked on the treadmill and it hurt. i stretched and then walked and tried a slow jog and it hurt more. so i stopped and did lots of stretching instead and some weight training. funny thing....the pain in more right in my mid quad now. and as i did the different leg exercises i kept expecting one of them to hurt like hell and then i would know exactly which part was hurting. but none of them hurt it at all. it only hurts when i put pressure on my foot.

argh. i will take the weekend off and see how it is next week.

thanks Patrick.

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Lngbrdr
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posted May-05-2007 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lngbrdr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow I thought I was the only one. I am still resting it. I am seriously thinking it is infelxibility right now. I used to stretch everytime I ran but did not take it very seriously. I tried stretching it for a couple of days but it just got worse so I am still holding off stretching it out until it stops and then start stretching and hopefully back to running.

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Lngbrdr
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posted May-05-2007 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lngbrdr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LindsayB:
Hate to not bring new news...my hip bursitus is mainly b'c I also have an abnormal length difference. After a few deep tissue massages and some new insoles it was ok for a while. If I do certain ab exercises...for ex hanging leg raises...or sprinting then it will act up more. Certain TMs also exacerbate the pain.
I had run long distance for 7 years before I started to experience the groin pain.
Heating pads also helped me.
Oh yes...and there are certain medications that have given me extreme joint pain...the main culprits being Lexapro or Cipro. I had strep once and was given Lexapro...major reaction...extreme ankle and leg pain.
What kind of medication did they have you on after your wisdom teeth were pulled? I would definitely check into that more.

I'm not sure what they gave me but that is a possibility. I know the pain meds were lortabs but when they put me under they gave me some other meds that were supposed to help with the swelling but I have no clue what they were.

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Patrick
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posted May-07-2007 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Patrick   Click Here to Email Patrick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi lngbrdr,

be very careful when stretching injured muscles. If in doubt, don't stretch them until they have healed further (by resting). I guess a little light stretching should be okay (preferably when the muscles have warmed up) but refrain from heavy streching of the problem areas.. general streching of the other (leg) muscles is okay though. In this case a gentle (self-)massage may be a better option to speed up the healing process.

Good luck
Patrick

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Lngbrdr
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posted May-07-2007 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lngbrdr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Patrick, thanks for the tip I guess I will refrain until i'm feeling better.

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runagain
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posted May-09-2007 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for runagain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted May-09-2007 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for runagain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had similar pain for 2 years. Sore and stiff hip especially after running. I saw 4 MD's, 2 PT's had 2 MRI's, was told I have leg legth discrepancy
arthritis, ITBS, bursitis, labral tear, impingement blah,blah
blah. Didn't run for 1 1/2 years and still no better. Finally I had it scoped last week because my ortho said after 2 years
of no relief it's time to take a look in the joint. He also
thought my IT band was tight and causing chronic bursitis.
During surgery he found 2 labral tears that didn't show up on MRI, impingement (that he couldn't fix with a scope). A very tight IT band and a chronically inflamed bursa. He cut the IT
band and took out part of the bursa. He found no arthritis.
I had been using a heel lift for a year, getting massage, PT
and resting all prior to this with little relief. In less than a week, even with an incision, it feels better. Sorry this is so long. I feel for every one of you as I have been there, but if
you are not getting better after a few months it's time to move on and try something else or find a new MD or PT.

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Lngbrdr
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posted May-11-2007 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lngbrdr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Went to the doctor today and aparently it's my hip flexor that is bothering me. They took x-rays to make sure I didn't have anything wrong with bones. They also put me on 500mg naproxen 2x a day as an anti-inflammatory to see if we can get the pain down. The doctor told me if it doesn't stop hurting in 2 weeks they will refer me to one of the sports doctors that aparently works with some professional sports teams around here.

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kristina
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posted May-12-2007 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kristina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can someone write about their hip labrum tear surgery? Are you back running like you want to?

Also has someone opted against surgery and is able to run successfully?

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fancyshorts
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posted May-13-2007 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fancyshorts   Click Here to Email fancyshorts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Kristina,

I just put up a post with the same question. Hopefully there will be some hits soon!

are you in the same boat??

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naturegirl711
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posted May-18-2007 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for naturegirl711   Click Here to Email naturegirl711     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i just wanted to post an update in this thread. i finally went to my chiropractor last night because i still have the discomfort in my groin area. turns out it is my hip flexor. i told him everything i have done, what i feel and how i can run through it and it only hurts much later. he moved my leg around a lot and pressed here and there and finally pressed on the upper part of the muscle which is in the belly and OUCH!. that did it. i am sore today because he worked on the muscle but i am glad i know what it is. hip flexpor. he taught me some proper stretches for it too. i hope it feels better soon. 5K in a couple of weeks!

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julieruns15
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posted May-18-2007 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for julieruns15   Click Here to Email julieruns15     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am joining the ranks of the injured- hip people.

Background: I ran my 3rd marathon on March 25th. It was the Ocean Drive Marathon in Cape May, NJ. There was a 25 mph headwind the ENTIRE race. Obviously, everything hurt at the end. A few days later all the normal marathon aches and pains subsided and I ran 3.4 miles. I noticed some stiffness after a mile which seemed to nag throughout the run. The next day I did the elliptical machine and again, noticed some hip pain toward the end of the workout. The third day I ran 5.1 miles. Pain started about 1.5 miles in but was kind of a dull/nagging pain, so I finished the run. I was limping around the whole rest of the day. I spent the next 2 weeks taking 2 or 3 days off from running, then trying again with the same results. About 2 -2.5 miles into the run I would have the pain return.

I went to a sports rehab place and was examined by an M.D. He referrred me to a chiropractor in the same office. After doing Xrays, we discussed my severe scoliosis and leg length discrepency ( I already knew this). I was wearing custom orthotics I got last April; the chiro said to stop wearing them b/c he was going to devise a treatment plan for me. I was told no running and have been doing chiropractic adjustments, physical therapy ( ultrasound, massage, exercises, ice w/ electrostim) 3 x a week for the past 4 weeks. I am also getting new custom orthotics but they aren't in yet.

Last week (week 3 of treatment) they told me to "try" running. I did 45 minutes of walking 1 min/run 3 minutes 4 times. No pain, except some inner thigh soreness b/c I wasn't used to running without orthotics in over a year (this went away after a few days). This week I increased to 60 minutes of 1 min walking/5 minutes running. The last 5 or so minutes made my hip stiff on the treadmill the other day. I am trying my 2nd run of the week tonight.

It's still frustrating b/c at physical therapy when I get massaged the tendon is still painful.

This process is so slow and frustrating! I keep thinking what if something is really screwed up and I won't be able to run again? Guess I just need some support from you guys who are going through the same thing

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posted Oct-29-2007 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jules0777     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just wanted to reply to this topic. 10 days ago I had my arthroscopic surgery for my acetibulum labral tear in my hip. Even though I always had some form of pain, I was still running, rock climbing and stretch training up until the night before surgery.
So far the pain has been bareable post op. I go to see my doctor in one more week. I assume I will then have to have physical therapy. My leg was weight bearing the moment I got out of the hospital. By the 3rd or 4th day after surgery, I was moving around relatively easy without the need of crutches.
Right now, the pain in the groin is minimal, but I still have pain in my ankle and pulled muscle in my groin (from surgery) and numbness in my opposite foot and groin. I'm hoping the numbness is not due to nerve damage, but I won;t know until the swelling goes away.
I honestly think that it was a good decision to have the surgery. I can't wait to start running again soon. I hope this helps.

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