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Topic: Pulled groin muscles? |
tshepp2
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 posted Sep-13-2005 04:16 PM
  
Has anyone had bi-lateral groin pain that has also caused pain in the hip/buttocks & glutes? I've posted my injury previously so sorry for those who've read about it before but here I go again. A little over 2 months ago, I sneezed & felt like I pulled a muscle in my right abdominal area. Felt some tightness like a pulled muscle in my right inner thigh up to the groin area. Continued to exercise without any problems. Played golf 3 days in a row, ran etc. Then I noticed that my abdomen seemed swollen & an area on the right was visable & I thought a pulled muscle. The only pain I experienced was when I coughed or sneezed though. Then a week later an area in the lower right groin looked swollen. I went to the doctor & after an abdominal CT-scan, was diagnosed with a small right inguinal hernia.
At this point, the only pain I was having was in the left groin and hip area.
Finally broke down & went to an orthopedic who ordered an MRI. MRI showed 2 protruding discs (L4-L5, S1-L5). By then the pain was moving
around to my low back/left glute, left hip/groin and even the right glute from time to time. Ortho ordered PT which I have been going to twice per week for 5 weeks now but I'm still not buying that the discs have caused all this.
I knew I had one bad disc & was very active for the last 20 years with it.Did 10 minutes (slowly) on the elliptical last night & then walked 4 miles (slowly). My right knee hurt some when walking. Today, my inner thighs hurt (more on the right) and hamstrings are super tight. I've been stretching alot - and stretched before & after the walks. Anyone else have a crazy injury like this? Could some pulled groin muscles be causing all this? I need to exercise but if I can't walk or do the
elliptical, what can I do while this heals? This is so frustrating.
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waves2ya
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posted Sep-14-2005 07:20 AM
Hi. There a post here under 'hernia' or 'abdominal' that will speak to some of your complaint.Or you can read this. http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=559820&page=0 It's a lot - but your not the only one who's had to try to play through this sticky wicket. Keep your head up...
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tshepp2
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posted Sep-14-2005 10:32 AM
Good info on letsrun.com site. Funny....I have seen Dr. Cattey about this.
He was the 3rd surgeon I saw about this problem. He looked at my MRI & said there was a small inguinal hernia.....no sports hernia etc. Couldn't really explain the left groin pain when the hernia was on the right but told me they'd be able to look at both groin areas laparoscopically & if there were any small tears they'd repair them as well. I haven't scheduled that surgery yet because all 3 surgeons said it wasn't an emergency & that I could continue to run, golf etc. Everyone I've seen seems to just blow this off. I've told them all about the groin/abdominal pains, right inner/back of thigh pain, butt/glute & QL pain. I just don't think this is those discs. And
not exercising doesn't seem to help one bit. I'm going to research Dr. Meyer next. Thanks again for turning me onto this site.
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justfartnolek
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posted Sep-14-2005 11:03 AM
I can't address the issue of the pain in your back/buttocks, but I can definitely talk about groin pain:Earlier this year while training for a marathon I severely strained both adductor muscles (the ones that run up the inside of your thigh and attach to your pubic bone on each side of your groin). It caused severe irritation where the muscles attach to the pubic bone. There were terrible pain in my lower abs/groin region and it was excruciating if I tried to engage the adductor muscles by crossing one leg in front of my body. The irritation was so severe that it caused a blockage of my right sperm duct - fluid would actually build up and cause a large lump on the right side of my groin, just below my abdomen. And on the left side of my groin a nerve was entrapped, causing intermittent pain in my left testicle. I went through 3 months of PT, which included strenthening excercises for both the adductors and lower abs. I'm pain-free now, but it took a good 6 months for the nerve pain in my left testicle to subside. Incidentally, that pain was what I would call "mobile" - it seemed to be in a different place each day, which sounds rather similar to the pain you're experiencing in your back/buttocks. Possibly a sign of nerve entrapment of some sort. My point is that yes, a groin strain can cause all sorts of collateral issues. ------------------
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GeeBee
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posted Sep-14-2005 01:50 PM
Definitely not expert advice, but I had a groin pull when I was younger when I played soccer.Doctors told me that groin pulls take very long to heal. You may be walking differently with a groin pull, putting more pressure on one leg over another or exerting a group of muscles you wouldn't normally exert as much without a groin pull. This could be causing some of your knee, thigh, and hamstring problems, maybe even the glutes. On a side note, before running, I always stretch the groin by sitting upright with the flats of my feet touching each other and pulled toward my groin as far as possible with the outter sides of my knees as far to the ground as possible. I don't know another groin stretch that does as well for me.
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frankd
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posted Sep-17-2005 08:57 PM
Does anyone have advice regarding a groin injury? I have had some low groin pain that has progressed over the last month. I'm scheduled to run a marathon in 2 weeks. Any chance I can get healthy enough to run?
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tshepp2
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posted Sep-27-2005 04:40 PM
So it's been 11-12 weeks since this who back/hips/glutes/groin pain stuff
started. I'm happy to say it is getting better but very slowly. What really still bothers me is the pain in the upper glutes area & outside hip area. The PT continues to work this (piriformis area?) but I don't get what I could have done that this hasn't healed yet. I did 30 minutes of elliptical, 20 of recumbent bike & 30 minutes of water walking on Sunday but I don't think this has anything to do with it. This area has been sore daily. It isn't unbearable but why so sore? I'm doing all the stretches the PT has given me + PT twice per week & walking 2 miles most days. Considering this whole thing just kind of popped up, I'd like to know what is causing this.
I'm still not buying that it is all related to my L4-L5, S1-L5 protruding discs.Any ideas? Anyone have this type of pain/injury & how long did it take to heal. I'm dying to run again but wouldn't take a chance right now. Some days I feel like I could though.
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xasx
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posted Jun-01-2006 06:13 PM
I know this post is old, but I am glad to here I am not the only one with this crazy type of injury. How did the rest of you heal? I have pain going from my left lower back into my buttocks and my leg and around the knees. Also in my left groin, testicle, and thigh. My testicles also seem to stay pulled up a lot more then usual (no, its not cold here anymore). One doctor thought it was sciatic nerve bothering all of it, another thought it was a strained groin muslce causing all the problems, and the urologist also thought it is a strained groin muslce. Lack of exercise seems to make it worse, especially sitting (sucks cause I sit at work all day). I am going to give it another few weeks and see if it gets better or I might visit a orthopedist, even though it has been a few months, they ruled out a hernia from the turn & cough method, no scans yet. The pain comes and goes and gets annoying. I lowered the amount of weight I lift and stopped running and just speed walk now. quote:
Originally posted by tshepp2:
So it's been 11-12 weeks since this who back/hips/glutes/groin pain stuff
started. I'm happy to say it is getting better but very slowly. What really still bothers me is the pain in the upper glutes area & outside hip area. The PT continues to work this (piriformis area?) but I don't get what I could have done that this hasn't healed yet. I did 30 minutes of elliptical, 20 of recumbent bike & 30 minutes of water walking on Sunday but I don't think this has anything to do with it. This area has been sore daily. It isn't unbearable but why so sore? I'm doing all the stretches the PT has given me + PT twice per week & walking 2 miles most days. Considering this whole thing just kind of popped up, I'd like to know what is causing this.
I'm still not buying that it is all related to my L4-L5, S1-L5 protruding discs.Any ideas? Anyone have this type of pain/injury & how long did it take to heal. I'm dying to run again but wouldn't take a chance right now. Some days I feel like I could though.
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tshepp2
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posted Jun-02-2006 09:21 AM
Wish I could say I'm healed. Unfortunately, this thing didn't get better after 3 mo's of PT so went to different doc. Since then, I've had 2 cortisone injections into my hip for a labral tear (has helped) & also had bilateral hernia surgery in December for sports hernias. Believe I developed a SI joint dysfunction throughout all of this (probably because I stopped running & was sitting around more). So I'm still dealing with that & the labral tear in the hip. Trying to hold off on the labral surgery until after summer (or not at all if I can avoid it). They don't want me to have any more cortisone injections into the hip joint though. Trying to stabilize the SI joints now more than anything. I do have good days & bad. Whatever you do.....good luck.
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Meggie5782
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posted Jun-05-2006 01:33 PM
I keep having re-occuring groin pain. It seems like every summer, either the left or right side of my groin starts really hurting. Right now my left side is hurting. I went through PT for it last summer and it finally got better. Then my left knee started hurting about 5 months ago and it's feeling better now. Could there be a connection between the groin and knee pain since they're both on the left side? I'm just so sick of this heppening all the time and I can't keep going back for more PT. Should I just rest until the pain goes away again? Thanks! ------------------
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nasirfund
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posted Dec-28-2006 06:47 PM
TSHEPP
What's the progress now?
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fancyshorts
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posted Dec-28-2006 11:14 PM
I have ALL the same symptoms as TSHEPP2- just got an MRI this evening...hopefully I'll know what's wrong soon enough. My question is:it seems like all on this thread are male...any females with this injury? I am convinced it is a hernia, though all the sites say it is highly unlikely for a woman. I both lifted a heavy suitcase and did a hill workout the same day in August...not sure which was the catalyst. haven't been running or doing anything much else since...
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tshepp2
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posted Jan-02-2007 10:39 AM
In response to the latest posts, it has been a long 2 years. Had bilateral sports hernia surgery back on 12/5/05. Took care of some of my problems. Shortly after the surgery, I was able to roll over in bed again and sleep on either side. Some of the groin pain was gone. Had really tight hip flexors and started PT in Feb. Never really progressed and the left hip and deep groin pain really started up. (I had an MRI arthrogram back in Oct 05' and showed labral tear in the left hip but they weren't sure that was the cause of pain.) In April, went back to hip specialist. Did another cortisone injection into the hip. Got relief. Went for 3 surgical opinions and they all said that I needed surgery. No more cortisone into the joint. By June, decided on the surgeon I wanted to do it. Had a wedding in the summer and the cortisone was working some so decided to hold off as long as I could. Also wanted to get some strength back from the hernia surgery. Was able to bike some this summer but all low level stuff. Definitely no running. Walking was even a challenge because my gait was all messed up. SI Joints flared up and groins would flare up if I did too much exercise. Had MRI arthrogram of the right hip in September because of the right groin issues. Confirmed labral tear on the right but no catching like on the left. Had the labral tear debrided on 10/19 (tear was too large to be repaired). Rehab is slow and low level with this surgery. Not like knee or shoulder. This has also taken care of some of the problems. Hip hasn't caught once since the surgery. I realize now that I had gotten used to it catching...now that the catch is gone. Still have muscular issues that I'm dealing with. Psoas and SI ligaments, glutes.....all need to settle. Just received new orthotics because I've been walking on the outside of the right foot for the last 2 years because of the left hip. Hopefully all this other stuff with settle and is all because of the compensating for the sore hip. My "hip" actually feels really good now.I'm always interested in hearing how other SH or labral tear posters are doing. Still searching for a miracle that will get me back on my feet again and allow me to run. I'm hoping that will come in 2007. If any questions, please let me know.
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rru2s
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posted Jan-02-2007 12:37 PM
I don't have SH or labral problem, but I have had minor hip problems that are noteworthy.Firstoff, after a knee injury involving torn cartilage 18 months ago, I had to temporarily quit running, and I switched from running 3 times a week, 30+ miles, to elliptical 3 times a week, 100 minutes per session. Elliptical machines require the body to assume an unnaturally wide straddling position that contributes to chronic hip soreness, moreso in people who do a huge amount of it. When doing elliptical, your feet are spread farther apart (about 10 to 12 inches apart), versus when running or walking feet are only 4 to 6 inches apart. This gives rise to a pendular motion that includes swaying from side to side to position your center of mass over the pedals, which contributes to a less pendular motion and more irregular pattern of weight bearing on the hip joint during the cadence cycle. ***
The second observation is that I have had problems with hip flexors on two occassions since switching to the Pose Method of running. When running, if I consciously *pull* my rear foot forward after lift-off from support, then later I may develop tenderness in the hip area and in the groin area, which matches the location of the illiacus and the psoas major. There are exercises to help the hip flexor soreness, where you lay on your back spread knees apart, press feet together, or else pull up the knee towards the chest with knees out to the side. In addition, there are exercises to strengthen the hip flexors, such as hip raising and lowering while in the pushup position.
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swatkins
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posted Jan-06-2007 12:13 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by rru2s:Elliptical machines require the body to assume an unnaturally wide straddling position that contributes to chronic hip soreness, moreso in people who do a huge amount of it. When doing elliptical, your feet are spread farther apart (about 10 to 12 inches apart), versus when running or walking feet are only 4 to 6 inches apart. This gives rise to a pendular motion that includes swaying from side to side to position your center of mass over the pedals, which contributes to a less pendular motion and more irregular pattern of weight bearing on the hip joint during the cadence cycle. ***
Thanks for this information, I am currently suffering from groin/inner thigh pain since running a marathon in October. I had started using the elliptical for cross-training since I haven't been able to run (it's the only cardio machine that isn't completely boring). What do you suggest in place of running? I have just been doing core strengthening exercises and some upper body weights. I was hoping tincture of time might heal this but so far, no go. I start physical therapy this week. I still don't have a firm diagnosis, perhaps L2 radiculopathy vs obturator nerve entrapment.
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kevmci
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posted Jan-10-2007 12:40 PM
When I first read the post that described the elliptical machine with your feet 10-12" apart, I was startled. That just didn't seem right. So, I checked the elliptical machines at my club. They do not force your feet 10" apart. They are in fact 4" apart, so the same as a running stride. Are you talking about Arc Trainers, which are wider? Or are your ellipticals older ... or newer?
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cancer86
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posted Jan-14-2007 05:17 PM
How long do groin muscle pulls take to heal? I have been unable to run for 6 weeks now and have tried the usual--RICE, stretching, compression shorts, biking for strengthening..etc.
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