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loco motion
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 posted May-29-2005 07:34 PM
  
Shelly, thanks for the warning about the raisins, you guys keep talking about jelly beans, maybe I'll give'em a try!I'm sorry to report that after 12 miles today, I had a repeat of the bloody stools I experienced after my last long run. Like Cathy, it only seems to happen when I run more than 6 miles. I tried using positive thinking and breathing techiniques to keep myself calm, and I must say it seemed to help a little becasue I did not have to go during my run and it wasn't a mad dash to the porta-potty afterwards either. I was feeling great until I did have to go and there was some blood. yuk! It was less than before, but I'm still disappointed and a little scared. I'm wondering if I should just give up on all this long distance running and keep it under 6 miles.
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wherestheportojohn
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posted May-29-2005 09:50 PM
it is interesting that we each bring a different scenario to this embarrassing and annoying problemI've never had the bloody stools, yet am bothered each and every run by one or more URGENT episodes [cannot wait more than a few moments when it strikes] Others can get thru a run, yet have the blood and mucus and cramping afterwards. No answers from me....but will see the GI doc in a week and hopefully get a few insights or hints on how to get a handle on this.
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ShelleyM
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posted May-30-2005 05:21 AM
Loco- It would be a shame to have to stop at 6, when you know that you can go on a longer run. Do walking breaks help you? You might want to give that a try, although sometimes when I stop and walk it gets the whole thing started.My stomach is pretty bad today, but I'm going to try for at least 5 this morning. I'm drinking my coffee now. Can't decide whether to eat something or not. I never know what will be safe to eat before the run.
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heidi runner
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posted May-30-2005 04:16 PM
I too have the same problems and while a lot of my is from age, kids, hormones, running movement, etc, it is also from my diet. After doing lots of searching on the internet, without much success, eliminating different foods from my diet, I finally found an IBS diet that helps me a lot.
I'm new on this board and haven't had any of my replys posted, so if this posts, I will go into more detail.
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heidi runner
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posted May-30-2005 04:38 PM
Alright! I'm on board! First of all, I'm in my late 40's, been running for about 10 years, and have had some sort of "pitstop problems" ever since I started running, and the more I've run, the worse it seems to get. When I started getting the episodes where I would suddenly get the urge and have to go immediately or have an "accident", I decided that I would either have to find a solution or quit running. It was that bad, as I'm sure most of you can relate to. There's nothing worse than being out miles from home and no place to go-really ruins the mood of the run! While I would try and eliminate certain foods from my diet, such as dairy, caffeine, fiber, sugar, etc, not one offered a solution. I found some information on IBS, and even though I only had problems when I ran, I decided to try their diet. And it has helped me tremendously! Now I still have some problems, but I don't normally have that desperate, immediate urge to go right now!
Heather Van Vorous has written a couple of books on eating for IBS and I highly recommend reading them. Some of her suggestions that have helped me are eating low-fat, and that means watching your red meat intake, I still eat beef, but not a lot, dairy-I eat some low-fat yogurt, but drink soymilk, fiber-soluble fiber is good, such as bananas, but be very careful with the insoluble fiber, also, what really surprised me was wheat fiber is a big trigger. I do not eat any whole wheat fiber or I will have problems! Also, caffeine is a big trigger.
I hoped this has helped, and if you have any questions, let me know and maybe I can help. I know all of these posts have helped me know that I'm not the only one with this discouraging problem.
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ShelleyM
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posted May-30-2005 08:22 PM
Heidi-I have a book called "Breaking the Vicious Cycle," which is a book specifically for Crohns, Ulcerative Colitis, Celiac Disease, and a few others. The diet is called the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, and some people with IBD have had very good luck with this diet. Although I have had the book for a few years, I have never really followed the diet. I threaten to try it everytime I have a flare-up, but haven't yet. I can't recall what it consists of. I'll have to go and read through the book again. It might just help. Your post reminded me that I have the book. Thanks!
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scsully
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posted May-31-2005 08:34 AM
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Originally posted by ShelleyM:
Heidi-I have a book called "Breaking the Vicious Cycle," which is a book specifically for Crohns, Ulcerative Colitis, Celiac Disease, and a few others. The diet is called the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, and some people with IBD have had very good luck with this diet. Although I have had the book for a few years, I have never really followed the diet. I threaten to try it everytime I have a flare-up, but haven't yet. I can't recall what it consists of. I'll have to go and read through the book again. It might just help. Your post reminded me that I have the book. Thanks!
I have read: The New Eating Right for a Bad Gut : The Complete Nutritional Guide to Ileitis, Colitis, Crohn's Disease, and Inflammatory Bowel Disease by James Scala. Though I don't follow the diet specifically, I do follow certain parts of it, and more closely when I am having a flare up. It has helped tremedously, and I suggest reading it to understand more of what is happening with your body. Educating yourself is powerful!
On another note, my GI has told me that caffeine can actually trigger a flare up b/c the caffeine gets your bowels moving. I guess this can be good if you are trying to clear out before a run, but for me I avoid it hours before I go running b/c it can make a huge difference. But maybe that's just me being super sensitive to caffeine, we're all different!
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cathyclancy
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posted May-31-2005 10:50 AM
hi everyone!sorry...long weekend and didn't get a chance to post at all...ok, so here's my update though... on saturday monring i ran 11 miles. peed after mile 1, then again at mile 4.5 i had to pee/felt a little like i had to poop but not really, then again at about mile 8 or something really had to use the bathroom. Thank goodness there were some bathrooms along the way! for me its not a huge cr#p or anything, but more of a gassy feel! dont know cant really describe it...anyway so after that i was pretty drained... did feel kind of gassy the whole day and i did not to a darn thing on sunday or monday-honestly i think i needed a big break! have sort of been overtraining...
so this morning i was back at it and feeling better then ever. i was able to get in 7 miles before work and evern about 30 minutes of light lifting. once again though right aorund mile 6 i though i was going to have to stop! thankfully i finished at 7 miles...then jumped in the shower (after relieving myself, of course) and hit the weights. ok, so when this happens to me it is very...whats the word..loose?? i dont have blood or anything...not that i have notived at least! anyways, tried drinking less coffee this morning and ate nothing for a change... currently i am reading "eating for endurance" by maffetone-anyone heard of it?? happy running 
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wherestheportojohn
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posted May-31-2005 02:50 PM
Is it Friday yet!?!? LOLbiked, mowed, and hoed yesterday/no running today is a rest day I have 4-5 planned for my 4am run tomorrow cathy,
interesting how your 'urges' strike later in the run....mine are almost clockwork in that they hit within the first 2 miles, then ~ 3-4, and at 6. I have rarely made it thru a 5-7 mile run without stopping at least twice. I see my GI doc on Monday and will ask her about ALL COFFEE....not just caffeine. As someone [on this thread, I believe] mentioned that coffee, not just caffeine, can be a trigger. I'm sure we'll discuss other areas of concern as well. Back to work
cheers
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ShelleyM
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posted Jun-01-2005 06:06 AM
I know that coffee isn't good for me, but I always drink it before I run. Couldn't run yesterday after work because my stomach was really bothering me. It was my birthday and I had lots of fruit the night before when the parents brought over a huge bowl of it, coupled with the bowl of fruit that was brought for me at work yesterday. Needless to say, I was in pain.I got out my book by Elaine Gottschall, but I really can't follow that kind of WOE. No grains at all. I am a big oatmeal eater and I try to follow WW Core as much as I can. I will look for the other book though and add it to my collection. I am hoping for a run this afternoon if my stomach and the weather allows. ------------------
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acp50
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posted Jun-01-2005 07:02 AM
Hello fellow colonists,
It took me a long time to read all the intervening posts since I last entered this thread! I've been ignoring my computer as of late, working outside, etc. I see there are several additions to our exclusive club. Welcome! (because, as everyone knows, misery loves company...). I'm starting to build up my mileage again after a rest period due to runners knee, so far no big problems, but I've only run 3 miles max recently. Last nite I had 2 sorbital hard candies and I thought I was going to DIE...Gas BIG time and painful cramps. That stuff is poison to me! Wheres the portajohn, sorry I was awol so long. So you go on Monday to a new doc...I'll be thinking of you. Also, I go through periods where my legs are totally fatigued as well...What I do is slow down what miles i do, just like you're doing. I hate it when your mind wants to do the run, but the legs refuse to follow!
Have a great day everybody!
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wherestheportojohn
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posted Jun-01-2005 07:27 AM
ann,
good to see you...glad the knees are hanging in there!the doc I'm seeing isn't new...this is my second appt with her, since the first test they tried, didn't find anything. So she's got me back for further discussion. I was supposed to go out for 4-5 at 4am today, but was hit BROADSIDE by a major sinus/allergy headache at 1am.
when the alarm went off, I was still wiped and headachy, so bagged the run. (I've got the headache, drippy nose, and plugged ears.) Now I'll have "guilt-complex-from-missed-run" all day.
*sigh*
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cathyclancy
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posted Jun-01-2005 01:58 PM
i know, i missed my run this morning too due to lightning and storms in houston! i cant live with that guilt so thankfully the skies cleared by lunchtime and i got in my five miles as scheduled. wasnt the easiest (im an AM runner!!) and sure was humid but i feel much better. enjoying my filling lunch now!!oh, and see....no problems what-so-ever b/c it was under 6!!! didnt even have to pee a million times like usual (maybe cause i was sweating so much!!)
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wherestheportojohn
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posted Jun-01-2005 03:36 PM
LOL!
I was feeling so horrid at 5am that I called in sick.
By 7am I was angry and feeling guilty, so I forced myself downstairs and lifted UB weights...then felt energized and hopped on the TM for a relaxed easy 4. Go figure.
My head is not quite as achy, and the drippy/full/sinusy feeling didn't interfere with the run.I'm glad I didn't force the run at 4am, glad I didn't go into work, and VERY glad that I *did* manage a workout in spite of everything. OY! I'll get that 4am run in tomorrow for sure.
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katholeenie
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posted Jun-01-2005 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by ShelleyM:
Heidi-I have a book called "Breaking the Vicious Cycle," which is a book specifically for Crohns, Ulcerative Colitis, Celiac Disease, and a few others. The diet is called the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, and some people with IBD have had very good luck with this diet.
I have been following this thread a while, but this comment made me post. I also have UC and my doc put me on this diet 2 years ago. Once you get past the first 5 days of the intro diet, the no grain thing really isn't a big deal. Especially when it makes such a HUGE difference. (Seriously, 5 days on this diet brought be out of a year long flare that no drugs would touch.) And, there is an email list-serv support group that commiserates and swaps recipies and answers questions and all that. I used to be an oatmeal/pasta/bread/bagel & chocolate fiend. But I will happily give it up if it will cure my gut. I still eat lots of the same things I did before, mainly the difference is in how its prepared. You just have to be a bit creative. Dh and I probably eat better now than we did pre-scd! Anyway, check the diet out. Try it. You can always go back to eating the way you always did if it doesn't help. Good runs, everyone! (No pun intended.) Edited to add: I forgot to mention that I have run a bunch of 'halves' on this diet and carbo loading isn't an issue. You have to figure out what works for you, and maybe eat more often, but its not that big a deal. [This message has been edited by katholeenie (edited Jun-01-2005).]
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ShelleyM
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posted Jun-01-2005 07:14 PM
Katholeen-Thanks for the info. I'll read the book more thoroughly. Also, I ordered the other book previously mentioned this morning to see what that diet involves.
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cathyclancy
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posted Jun-02-2005 11:50 AM
wow--lots of info!! thats awesomeso...i made it out at 5:30 am for my 8 mile run and no problems whatsoever, no aches this morning or cramping or anything. here's what i did differently...dranks lots of water as usual (yesterday) and right before bed (i mean i was laying in bed eating it!) i had one large rice cake with PB on it. Then, when i woke up at 5 this morning i only had a half cup of coffee instead of my normal whole cup and skipped my usual piece of toast with PB (since i ate basiclly the same thing as i was going to bed). was out on the streets by 5:30ish and back by 7amish...no problems at all! sipped on water while getting ready for work, made a smoothie for breakfast witha little bit of protien poweder, fresh bananas and strawberries and banana/strawberry yogurt...this morning at work i just finished 6 ounces yogurt, fresh strawberries and some bell peppers and celery sticks for a snack--and not a problem! so...ill try this again for my long run...
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wherestheportojohn
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posted Jun-02-2005 02:39 PM
cathy,
WTG!
I've never had coffee before a run because of what it 'does' to me. LOLIf I run early, I save the coffee for my return.
If I run at noon, then I drink 2-3 cups of half-half mixed by 6am and that's it for the day...no more caffeine of any sort. I did my 4.5 at 4am today/*two* pit stops in four miles?!?!...argh
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ShelleyM
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posted Jun-02-2005 05:59 PM
Cathy-Good for you! I can't do without my 1 or 2 cups before my run. I wish I could, but I really need them to clean me out beforehand.I just bought a new pair of shoes. Fila Sanctuary. I have worn Brooks Adrenalines for a couple of years, but the guy at the running store thought I might like these. We'll see on Saturday when I plan to run 8 if my stomach lets me. ------------------
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CSuzette
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posted Jun-03-2005 10:08 AM
This is odd. I had an infection in the skin around my toe-nail (due to ill-fitting shoes) and it got worse and worse until I had a full-blown infection raging.I had to go to the doctor and took 10 days off from running. I have been taking an antibiotic for the last 20 days. The strange thing is that my stomach is better. I did start taking a probiotic, but I used to take them with zero effect on my stomach problem. Anyway, it is possible that I had some strange infection in my gut...even though the GI doctor had allegedly ruled it out a few years ago. Something to consider, anyway. I don't know if this will be a permanent change, and I have still been taking Imodium (even though it doesn't really work that well when I go for a run). Suzette
Boston, MA
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ShelleyM
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posted Jun-04-2005 10:38 AM
Suzette-I hope you are cured from your meds, but I have my doubts.I had problems today. I had planned on going 8, but started having stomach problems at 6, and ended up going 6.5. I still go my weekly goal of 30 miles in barely!
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wherestheportojohn
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posted Jun-04-2005 01:29 PM
happy weekenddid 5.25 easy relaxed on the TM this morning---body felt great other than the colon forcing *3* pitstops....REALLY glad I wasn't running outdoors today. OY!
then went out and mowed the yard while still sweaty...pushing that thing around [not self-propelled] is a great way to cool down and stretcho out the backs of the legs.
I haven't used amy imodium for a week, as I'd like my system to be as 'normal' as possible for my second GI appt on Monday. cheers
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Desirae
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posted Jun-04-2005 06:11 PM
I was discussing this topic with one of my running friends today. What she does in the morning is drink coffee, run a mile on the treadmill, does her "thing," and then hits the roads outside.
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wherestheportojohn
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posted Jun-05-2005 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by Desirae:
I was discussing this topic with one of my running friends today. What she does in the morning is drink coffee, run a mile on the treadmill, does her "thing," and then hits the roads outside.
Good idea! It's great that she has found what works for her. I've thought of doing this....it would be a good idea if my body would only go ONCE. LOL
But since I'm a 'multiple' kind of gal, it wouldn't really help much.
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ShelleyM
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posted Jun-06-2005 05:44 AM
I always take a pit stop at 1.5 miles as my warmup, so I guess that's basically the same thing.I had a horrible run yesterday. I set out to go 12 miles, but could barely make 10. I had to take walk breaks starting at mile 7. By the end of my run, I couldn't tell if it was my stomach or TOM that was killing me! Not to mention the puddles and humidity from all the rainstorms. My hat was absolutely dripping and it wasn't from rain! I read the book recommended by someone here, "Eating Right for a Bad Gut." What a great book. I would suggest it to anyone with gut problems, whether it's IBD or just stomach problems in general. I more or less eat the way that is suggested, except I never peel my fruit. Good runs to all! ------------------
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