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ShelleyM
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 posted Apr-24-2005 11:09 AM
   
Interesting article. Thanks!------------------
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hoochifyd
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posted Apr-25-2005 08:37 AM
I think I am experiencing what you guys are describing... but for me, this morning (the morning after my 9-mile run) I am having pains where I had cramps yesterday. Around mile 6, I got the familiar "cramps"... and being a beginner runner, this is usually where my runs end, and I usually run straight to the bathroom. So this time, with my longest run to date, when I got home, I *barely* made it, and the cramping was horrible. It's also the first time I noticed blood. I woke up this morning to some minor cramping... not as bad as yesterday's post-run, but it is in the same spot... almost feels like I "bruised" the area, with all the cramping yesterday.I will try the Immodium... but I just wanted to ask if anyone else feels the effects the next day after a particularly bad episode, or if they subside after a trip to the restroom? I'm 26, and never had children... Thanks all... I almost cried yesterday thinking I might not make it home in time  It REALLY stresses you out! ------------------
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acp50
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posted Apr-26-2005 02:01 PM
hoochy//sorry you had such a hard time yesterday. Yes, it's the pits. If I were you I'd get checked by a GI, especially because of your painful cramps. One time my regular doc prescribed antismasmodics; I used them periodically and they seemed to help too. About the blood issue, last summer after a 16 mi training run I had blood and it scared the heck out of me. I've read about the GI ischemia which can cause this which made me feel better. Anyway, good luck with your issues and hope you can resolve them sooner rather than later. Not all of us "colonists" have had children either or have the same situation. The one thing we all do have in common is that our colon has interfered with our quality of life and running. All I can say is don't try to just "live" with this problem- try any and everything and don't give up. And if you need to talk or vent or ask of our experience, we're here for you!
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acp50
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posted Apr-26-2005 02:06 PM
hoochy//after re-reading your post I realize I didn't really answer your immediate question of whether or not I've experienced pain the next day after a bad episode. I've never had this problem, but like I said in the last post, we've all got different sources of our problems. My best advice is to see a GI doc. Let us know how it goes, OK?
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pauline
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posted Apr-26-2005 06:39 PM
I posted here about 100 messages ago. Anyway, I think the big problem for me is having had kids and making sure I am completely empty. I don't take immodium. I make sure that whatever is in me gets out. That means lots of fibre the day before and an evening meal that I know will not stick around long............so salad, veggies.....anything that is not constipating. I had a particularly rough long run yesterday.....with pain after (blood too) but it settled down and is fine today. I know with me it is ALL running related. It NEVER happens any other day, EVER. Have any of you ever tried anything to make sure you have a BM? Suppository, enema?.................It may help you, especially for those very important races.
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wherestheportojohn
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posted Apr-26-2005 09:06 PM
hi gangI saw the GI doc today and was very impressed with how much she listened and cared about all that I had to say. She thinks [as do I] that this might be a pelvic floor disfunction issue more than a GI problem...and I am scheduled already to go to the UW Hospital on Friday morning.
No, it's not a colonoscopy...frankly, this is worse, IMHO. I will spare you all the specific details, but let's just say that I hope this is all going to be worth it, because I WANT to be a runner!
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wherestheportojohn
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posted Apr-26-2005 09:13 PM
My GI doc wants me to continue with the imodium before running, as well as the metamucil...both of which have 'slowed' things down/but not stopped my situation
Nope, nothing has stopped this!We chatted about EVERYTHING and she came away thinking AT THIS POINT, that my problem is not related to foods, allergies, etc. but more related to a possible prolapse.
Therefore the trip to the radiologist on Friday is in order....yum, barium! EEEWWWWWWWW
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hoochifyd
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posted Apr-26-2005 09:35 PM
Since I just started running longer distances, I don't have a lot of history to go on... so that's why I'm open to suggestions. My stomach was in knots ALL day yesterday (the day after the horrible episode during my 9 miler)... even this morning I still feel like my stomach hasn't fully recovered. I'm not sure the ischemia applies to me... but if I keep experiencing pain like that, there's no way I'm avoiding going to get it checked out. I have been bloated all day, even though I have not eaten any new foods... it will be interesting to see how my run this Sunday goes. ------------------
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acp50
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posted Apr-27-2005 08:16 AM
wherestheportajohn// it sounds like you went to a great doc- I hope the two of you come up with a plan that will alleviate your problem forever! I'll be thinking of you Friday-let us know how it goes. 
hoochy// hope Sunday is much better!
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scsully
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posted Apr-27-2005 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by wherestheportojohn:
My GI doc wants me to continue with the imodium before running, as well as the metamucil...both of which have 'slowed' things down/but not stopped my situation
Nope, nothing has stopped this!We chatted about EVERYTHING and she came away thinking AT THIS POINT, that my problem is not related to foods, allergies, etc. but more related to a possible prolapse.
Therefore the trip to the radiologist on Friday is in order....yum, barium! EEEWWWWWWWW
Oh yes, I've done the barium fun. It's really not that bad, just think of how relieved you'll be when it's over and how you'll start to have answers to the problems. Just relax and think happy thoughts. It sounds like you have a great GI. Good luck!
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ShelleyM
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posted Apr-28-2005 05:54 AM
Carrie-Your symptoms are sounding more and more like IBD. I would go get it checked out immediately. I waited a year before I had the nerve to do it, that was 20 years ago. I am plagued with Ulcerative Colitis for the rest of my life. Please go and get checked by a GI!
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wherestheportojohn
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posted Apr-29-2005 07:20 AM
I'm heading off soon for my frolick in BariumLand...whheeeeeI'll stop back this afternoon and give a brief report.
No, you won't want *ANY* details....HAHAHAHA cheers
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acp50
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posted Apr-29-2005 09:39 PM
wherestheportajohn// How did it go? Let us know!
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karena
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posted Apr-30-2005 01:10 AM
Thank you. thank you. thank you. And here I thought I was alone.... great suggestions! Can't wait to find something to resolve the issues.
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acp50
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posted Apr-30-2005 05:20 AM
karena// welcome to our "colon"y!
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wherestheportojohn
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posted Apr-30-2005 05:48 AM
kind of a good news-bad news report:my trip to the hospital was all for nothing at this point....the radiology doc said he found nothing unusual/all the plumbing was acting as expected no pelvic floor issues I'm happy about that, because it means no surgeries, but I'm back to square one in trying to figure out this problem radiology doc will connect with my GI doc and we'll plan step two whenever she gets back to me *sigh*
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wherestheportojohn
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posted Apr-30-2005 05:52 AM
Today my system is WAY messed up with the 36 hour prep plus the barium being put into most available openings.....HAHAHA.....I don't DARE run outdoors since I don't know what to expect!So I'm relegated to do 4-6 miles on the TM on a beautiful Saturday morning. *another sigh*
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ShelleyM
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posted Apr-30-2005 06:57 AM
I don't understand. Something has to be wrong, I don't care what the drs say. What about having a colonoscopy? I would think that your GI would suggest this before anything else. You may want to ask him about either a colonoscopy or a sigmoidoscopy (this one only scopes the lower part of your colon and is less expensive.)
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wherestheportojohn
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posted Apr-30-2005 07:56 AM
shelly,
the radiologist will send reports to the GI doc, and she'll get back to me on where we go from hereI've had a siggy scope within the past 2 yrs [yes, I was having this issue then] and everything was negative....if she suggests colonoscopy, I'll do it. Even afer only one visit, the GI doc seems to be in my court.
I hope she gets back to me soon so we can move on. I'm thinking she might suggest some major dietary restrictions and/or even IBS meds or something.....WHO KNOWS!?!?!? Edited to add: In the meantime, GI doc does have me doing more 'kegal' exercises [even tho they I've been doing them and don't work yet while running]
...she said all of us women need to practice 10 reps, 10 times a day!! HAHAHAHA
These are bum kegals, which are a tad more difficult to isolate than vaginal kegals, btw. [This message has been edited by wherestheportojohn (edited Apr-30-2005).] [This message has been edited by wherestheportojohn (edited Apr-30-2005).]
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acp50
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posted Apr-30-2005 01:28 PM
Hey wherestheportajohn// Well, at least you know what you have isn't life threatening, like cancer or any other # of things. Don't fret. Now that your GI has more info on what problem its not (great English, but you know what I mean), he'll probably have a plan that he can develop for you. I'd be interested in finding out what IBS meds there are out there; I'm sure they come up with new ones all the time. I've tried those annoying kegals and they didn't seem to make much of a difference for me...maybe I was doing them wrong...Anyway, hang in there. You're on the right track it seems. I'm going out for my (*sigh*) walk...I'm hoping that just 1 more week of this will help my knees get straight...One positive is that my colon isn't as ornery when I walk. Have a good TM run...Remember a run is a run is a run, no matter where!
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acp50
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posted Apr-30-2005 01:35 PM
wherestheportajohn// woops, just realized your doc is a she and I referred to her as a he...I think this is even better for you, considering the female perspective in this situation. I think female GIs are rare, if my preliminary search means anything. I think I'll look harder for one. I remember when mine told me how important the kagals were to do, all I could think was "how would you know?!", credibility was low for me.
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ShelleyM
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posted Apr-30-2005 05:52 PM
I hope that IBS meds are better than IBD. The only thing that works for me when I'm having a major flare is prednisone. My continuing med is Colazal. It is great. I have been taking it for about 2 years now. When I feel I am getting a flare, I up my dosage. I actually need to now, since I am blowing lots of mucous and blood. Sorry for the gross description!!
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wherestheportojohn
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posted Apr-30-2005 07:35 PM
shelly,
fortunately, the things I *don't* have are mucus and blood
wow, that must be nastyno running today/opted for an endurance weight workout btw, the GI doc was totally amazed that I never have any issues when lifting weights....just running [outdoors and TM] will get the run in tomorrow ann,
sorry about the knees....hope taking the break helps!!
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hoochifyd
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posted May-02-2005 11:30 AM
Well, I did another 10 mile run on Sunday. I took an Immodium an hour before I left... and thankfully, I didn't have the cramping that I had last week, and no diarrhea. So I think it helped. I did however, get an overwhelming feeling of nausea, around mile 8... and it didn't let up. I struggled through another mile and a half, feeling like I was going to be sick... and then walked it the last half mile home. My stomach felt so awful... I did need to have a BM... and that helped with the naseau a little... but 8 hours later, and my stomach STILL had not completely felt better. Eating helped some... but it was so bad, I had to lie down for two hours after I got home. No cramping.. but VERY naseaus. Not sure what to make of that. Two things I think contributed to my problem: To eat that day, I'd had cranberry cereal with milk (maybe I should avoid dairy completely before any long runs), an apple, a peanut butter and jelly sandwich (peanuts probably didn't help), and some warmed tortillas with nothing on them. So maybe being more strict on what I eat beforehand would help. The second thing, I knew there were water fountains on my route, so I didn't bring water... but when I reached them, the water was OFF... so I wound up running almost two hours, without any water. So dehydration could have also played a major part. So I'm going for another 10 this week... hopefully I can nail down my stomach issues!! It's not very fun after completing such a rewarding distance Anyone else get severe nausea on their runs?? ------------------
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wherestheportojohn
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posted May-02-2005 03:25 PM
carrie,
I bet you're right on the dehydration...especially after taking imodium [that might be the answer to the nausea too]I had a horrid 5 miler today:
horrid in the colon sense, not the run itself!
took the imodium an hour before and it didn't do diddly...I focused really hard on kegals and stopping the 'flow' ...which caused cramping to get worse, and then the dreaded 'leaking'
this PIZZES me off SO MUCH...and i was having a great pace run too! I'm going to try something different tomorrow:
I always run at noon after having breakfast at 6am and snack at 9:30-10 am....but tomorrow, I'm eating breakfast at 5 am and snacks at 8 or 8:30 to see if the digestion issue is at work here.
My 10am snack today was: banana, granola bar, almonds.
Probably too much for my body to handle. tomorrow my breakfst will be eggwhites and toast, then the snack will be pntbtr on banana. I hope my doc calls this week with any information and more GI series tests
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