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Chele TKD Member	posted Sep-13-2007 01:24 PM Thank you everyone for this thread! I googled my "issue" and found this. I was so thrilled (but saddened for everyone) to find that I wasn't alone in my suffering. I have been experiencing this problem since I increased my distance over 5 miles. Last night I had to walk the last 1 3/4 miles of my 6 mile run. It was the worst it has ever been. I was a mess all night long too. I'm running in my first 1/2 marathon on October 7. I've only recently gotten back into running after a 10+ year break. Tae Kwon Do has been my exercise of choice for the past 4 years (one test away from black belt). Today I've been reading all that I can about the subject and what I can do so that it doesn't happen. I got through the first two pages of this thread (from 2005) and plan to read them all as time permits. I just had to post to say thanks for being here and addressing an issue that is embarrassing to all of us. -Michele IP: Logged
pinklady Member	posted Sep-13-2007 07:59 PM I just wanted to say thank you to whoever posted the idea about eating two hard boiled eggs before a run (I think I read it early in the thread). It worked! I had my long run today and for the first time in a year I didn't have any problems, not even any discomfort! IP: Logged
wherestheportojohn Cool Runner	posted Sep-19-2007 05:50 AM ~waving to all of our COLONists~ Hmmmmm, nothing works for me [yet], so I guess I'll have to try the hardboiled egg trick. <jotting down 'eggs' on grocery list> Hope all of you are having safe, healthy, non-issue workouts these days. cheers ------------------ On Wisconsin TurtleXing IP: Logged
kster61 Member	posted Sep-25-2007 10:26 AM Having had yet another episode out on the roads this morning I decided to try find others perhaps with similar symptoms. It happened again this morning on a 6 miler. After only 1 1/2 miles I had that urge to go. I ran through it knowing that I was irritating myself, and sure enough, lost control, with blood and diarrhea. Made an appointment with the gastro guy, sure it is internal hemmoroids, but what the heck?! Why does this happen? Training for my 21st marathon, and my problem of having to "go" on runs seems to be getting worse!! Immodium works for those long 20 milers, but I still know where I can make pit stops, and always make loops past my own house in the early miles when it seems to happen the most. I don't always have blood, I think that is caused by the hemmorioids that I have cause by irritating my insides when I hold it in. Thank goodness I have found others with similar problems!!! I am not alone! Like many of you I have tried to figure out why it happens on some runs, and why not on others, and have yet to put my finger on it. It is a terrible feeling, one that I hope to overcome. Dr. on Thurs. Lets see what he says. Thanks to all of your for your postings. Its nice to know you are not on a island. Or at least if I am I hope there is a port-o-potty!! IP: Logged
ShelleyM Cool Runner	posted Sep-30-2007 11:08 AM bump... IP: Logged
suzimmer Member	posted Oct-06-2007 01:00 PM Hi I am new to this thread. I have UC and have experienced the bloody stools after a run. It's nice to know I'm not alone. I have found that i must make sure I am well hydrated prior to a run and I have had to adjust my diet. Absolutely no fruit or veg the day or two before a long run or race as this does aggravate the colitis. Fortunately I have never experienced loss of control, but have had to dart into the port-a-potty during a race. I have become the master of the fast poop. IP: Logged
TooTenacious Member	posted Oct-08-2007 10:49 AM I am so so so glad to have found this site. I wasn't sure what was happening with me. I've never had a problem with the "gotta go" thing until this summer. I reasoned that it was too hot, I have IBS, I'm eating too much fiber before a run, anything, you name it......I've blamed it. Now I know I probably have all of the above issues. BUT I'm not alone. Thank you, thank you, thank you for sharing your stories and suggestions. I can't believe there are 26 pages, but I plan on reading them all! I'm 2 weeks out from my 3rd 1/2 marathon--this one being the only one I'm worried that I might experience problems----I hope to use the suggestions in this post to at the very least get through this marathon without having to duck into a bathroom to rinse my shorts out in a toilet!!! Keep the stories and solutions coming! IP: Logged
Bekks Member	posted Oct-09-2007 10:42 AM I haven't been running for long, but this issue popped up for me once I crossed the 3 mile mark. I'm still trying to figure out how to prevent/lessen my symptoms (which usually start about 30-45 min AFTER my run). It appear as though (for me) it's a combination of things... I need to be sure to 'go' BEFORE my run I can't eat too close to my run...I'll usually just have a powerbar about an hour before I head out (I won't eat for at least two hours after a run) I hydrate like crazy all morning, but then stop all liquids 1-1.5 hours before my run and I only take TINY sips (infrequently at that) during 4.5+ mile run (I also can't guzzle water afterwards either) But the most surprising discovery that I made was related to my form?! I very much enjoy lifting weights and spinning. Both of those exercises require a VERY tight core...to prevent lower back injury in lifting and to stay balanced during spin. I realized that I was subconsciously clenching my core for my entire run. Once I paid more attention to keeping my core 'supportive', but not CLENCHED...I noticed major/positive changes in my post-run condition. It's known that when running, the body restricts blood-flow to the 'gut' and redirects it to your legs. I'm guessing that perhaps that natural reaction in addition to the clenching (which would restrict blood-flow even further) could be enough to have an impact. Sorry...rambling. Hope this helps! IP: Logged
yogini runner Cool Runner	posted Oct-10-2007 06:05 PM Hey All, I just got this from an RSS(?) I am subscribed to. It doesn't suggest an immediate cure for UC, but the issue is being researched. Mouse study may have identified cause of ulcerative colitis, research suggests. The UPI (10/10) reports, "U.S. experiments with mice have identified an immune deficiency as the likely cause of ulcerative colitis -- a severe inflammatory disease of the colon," according to a study published online in the journal Cell. Investigators were able to link "ulcerative colitis in mice to a deficiency of a molecular 'peacekeeper' in the immune system, allowing harmful bacteria in the large intestine to breach the bowel's protective lining and trigger damaging inflammation." Furthermore, researchers "also determined that once the disease was established in mice, it could be passed from mother to offspring, and even between adult animals." Hopefully help is on the way. Safe running, Ev IP: Logged
ShelleyM Cool Runner	posted Oct-11-2007 05:00 AM Interesting explanation on the clenching of the stomach. Maybe that is a problem for those of you that haven't been diagnosed with anything. IP: Logged
TooTenacious Member	posted Oct-11-2007 09:41 AM Just checking in......today was the first cool morning I have experienced since the beginning of summer. From 76 degree runs to 48 degrees, and not a problem at all with the tummy. I had read that heat really irritates IBS and wondered if the cooler weather would provide any relief. So now I'm wondering if anyone else sees an increase in symptoms with the heat? Also I have not seen anything (I could have missed it) on anyone taking probiotics for their GI problems. I started taking them about a month ago and did notice a big difference, but again, I think the heat was the main culprit of my horrifying runs. So guess I learned something from my summer training and will need to have a different strategy for next year---not that I will ever train for a fall marathon during the summer again! Striding off now..... Columbus 1/2 Marathon 10/21/07 IP: Logged
wherestheportojohn Cool Runner	posted Oct-11-2007 03:22 PM nothing new to add here; just reading and waving howdy I am somewhat comforted by seeing others with 'issues' We'll find an answer, I'm sure! No changes for me, unfortunately. Every single run has at least one poopstop, and often MULTIPLE stops. Timing? Mine never make any sense. Today it didn't occur until the last half mile of a 5 miler....but on tuesday, I had 5-6 poopstops from miles 1-10 on my long one. Thankfully I was at home on the TM!! ------------------ On Wisconsin TurtleXing IP: Logged
ShelleyM Cool Runner	posted Oct-12-2007 05:27 AM TooTen-I tried probiotics for my UC and it didn't help. The pills were very expensive. I went through 2 bottles to no avail. Cooler weather never affected my stomach issues. I live in Fl. and it's always hot anyway. ------------------ My Profile IP: Logged
TooTenacious Member	posted Oct-15-2007 09:29 AM Waving back.....LOL Oh my.....I can't imagine a 10 mile run on a Dreadmill.....and then to have to start and stop.....wherestheportajohn, you have my total admiration for your tenacity!!! I went out for a 10 miler this weekend and by 6 miles I had that, I have to poop feeling (forgot to take the Immodium)......well, that screws the cooler weather theory! I ignored it until the 8 mile mark where I turned back toward home ---and then I remember reading that picking up the pace would cause the blood to divert to my GI tract and would help to calm it down. That did work for me and actually I was kinda sad I cut the run to 10 miles...could have gone further. So now that's my new theory...unfortunately I won't have time to test it fully before the 1/2 marathon. But I'll post my findings if I find anything and this isn't another silly theory in my search to figure out how to fix this problem!!LOL Happy running all.. striding off now IP: Logged
Spanky420 Cool Runner	posted Oct-15-2007 04:55 PM I have been taking Healthy Trinity by Natren. I started back in fall of '03. Took it for a while but couldn't afford it w/ not having steady work. Went back on it about a year ago and it definitely has helped. I still get all of the same problems but it seems as if they are not as frequent and it really seems to help w/ the constant bloating that I used to feel. I've been diagnosed w/ Ischemic Colitis and some other form of colitis and I'm sick of doctors...just trying to see if I can find things on my own. But Healthy Trinity has helped to keep me more "normal" feeling. As for climate....if I am in a cold room for some reason that seems to send me into pretty bad pain. Isn't that a little weird? IP: Logged
runninggirl33 Member	posted Oct-18-2007 08:35 PM Hi I just finished my first marathon and ended up in the GI Dr's office. I have runners colitis. I finally stopped bleeding after two days. He told me absolutley no more marathons. He told me I could do damage if I continued. I have a colonoscopy next week. There is a family history of colon cancer. How come everyone keeps running with symptoms? He said I could run halfs as long as there is no bleeding or other symptoms. I should keep my mileage under whatever causes problems. He told me there was a chance I could do perminent damage if I continued. Has anyone else gotten this advice? Thanks IP: Logged
GranolaGal Cool Runner	posted Oct-19-2007 10:15 PM quote: Originally posted by Spanky420: I have been taking Healthy Trinity by Natren... I take "Pro-Biotics Acidophilus" made by Nutrition Now Inc. I get it from GNC. IP: Logged
GranolaGal Cool Runner	posted Oct-19-2007 11:51 PM quote: Originally posted by runninggirl33: I have a colonoscopy next week. Thanks I drank a lot of broth and other salt-based products with my second colonoscopy because this helped me retain water (With my first one, I got dizzy because I wasn't retaining enough water, I assumed). Everytime I felt hungry, I drank lots of fluid or ate jello which I found helpful to do. Also, I liked the pedialyte better than the gatorade because it contains less sugar - or at least, tasted like it (you should check your sources to make sure). Powerade has vitamin B12 in it. Gatorade, powerade and probably pedialyte, too, are more hydrating than water (probably because of electrolytes), I've heard. There might be supplements you can take during your purge the day before if you feel that you need them - ask your dr. The reason I'm telling you all of this is because I didn't know a lot of this with my first colonoscopy. With my second one, the dr. (different one) actually gave me a menu of my three "meals" (if you want to call them meals-all liquid) for the day. He also provided a list of supplements/nutritious type things that I could take during the purge. I thought that the written info. (menu and other info.) he gave me helped considerably. Anyway, check with your dr. on all of this. I find it helpful to know what questions to ask, so I think above should be helpful to you to ask your dr. before the colonoscopy. The purge was the worst part for me. The colonoscopy was nothing since I was asleep. Also, you might ask your dr. if he can use propofol instead of versed (used to induce amnesia) and demerol. Propofol is non-narcotic and you wake up almost immediately after the procedure. Good luck! [This message has been edited by GranolaGal (edited Oct-19-2007).] IP: Logged
ShelleyM Cool Runner	posted Oct-20-2007 06:51 AM I've had many colonoscopies over the last 25 years, and never has the GI given me a "menu." That's really great advice, if your doc will do it. Also, he never advised me not to run again. As a matter of fact, I remember once when I was not flaring, he dictated into his machine that I was able to run again with no problems. IP: Logged
GranolaGal Cool Runner	posted Oct-20-2007 07:59 AM quote: Originally posted by runninggirl33: He told me absolutley no more marathons. He told me I could do damage if I continued....There is a family history of colon cancer. How come everyone keeps running with symptoms? He said I could run halfs as long as there is no bleeding or other symptoms. I should keep my mileage under whatever causes problems. He told me there was a chance I could do perminent damage if I continued. Has anyone else gotten this advice? Thanks My problems are not related to running in my mind - since I haven't run in years and when I did, it wasn't more than a mile or two, probably. I mostly walk (not much running) 3 to 4 miles a day almost daily. I can understand your dr's concern if you have a family history of colon cancer. Bleeding could be one of the symptoms...I believe you're supposed to get a colonoscopy ten years before the relative with it was first diagnosed with it or by age 50, whichever comes first, but check to make sure since it's always possible for rules to change... IP: Logged
TooTenacious Member	posted Oct-26-2007 07:02 AM quote: Originally posted by GranolaGal: My problems are not related to running in my mind - since I haven't run in years and when I did, it wasn't more than a mile or two, probably. I mostly walk (not much running) 3 to 4 miles a day almost daily. I can understand your dr's concern if you have a family history of colon cancer. Bleeding could be one of the symptoms...I believe you're supposed to get a colonoscopy ten years before the relative with it was first diagnosed with it or by age 50, whichever comes first, but check to make sure since it's always possible for rules to change... You know folks.....if your GI doc is not a runner, he's probably going to say don't run anymore. That's the easiest fix right? Docs that don't run are not sympathetic to runner issues. If you want to continue to run with this problem, seek advice from a doc who understands running and the runner's addiction so many of us have. On a brighter note,..... finished my Columbus 1/2 with a new PR, no potty breaks (took 2 Immodiums) and minor bleeding from what I now believe is an internal rhoid. Has been a very relaxing recovery week and I'm already excited about my long run this weekend. Perhaps a 7 miler to see if my issues are getting better. I hope everyone's butt is doing well! Run Strong! IP: Logged
wherestheportojohn Cool Runner	posted Oct-27-2007 08:05 AM g'morn too tenacious, congrats on your 1/2 PR and lack of pitstops. woo I'm lucky to (thankfully) never have had any bleeding issues. I have had specialists who ARE athletes, yet they are confounded by my situation. <snort> Had a nice 6 miler this morn in perfect fall pre-dawn conditions. Yes, I am still relegated to the dark or the TM. (had 2 pitstops in case anyone is counting) Have a great weekend, and GO BADGERS ------------------ On Wisconsin TurtleXing IP: Logged
GranolaGal Cool Runner	posted Oct-27-2007 03:10 PM The colonoscopy will give you peace of mind regardless of what you do (run, run less or don't run). Also, if you're not satisfied with your doctor, go to a different doctor just to weigh one against the other if for nothing else. It might even help you understand your current doctor better. IP: Logged
bansheemommy Member	posted Nov-04-2007 02:05 PM I can't believe I found this topic. I am so grateful to have read all the stories. I have just started experiencing this issue after my miles reached 18. I am 3 weeks out from my first marathon and am terrified of these accidents that have been occurring. I have read several of you that said to take immodium before a long run....how much are you taking? It is comforting to know I am not the only one. My non-running friends tell me to just quit running. It is nice to here from those that know that is not an option and hear some possible solutions. Thanks for all the stories. IP: Logged
HCOX Cool Runner	posted Nov-04-2007 07:36 PM Boy am I glad to have found this board. I have been on coolrunning for over a year and never knew it was here. I just finished reading every post. I was diagnosed with Crohn's disease 14 years ago. Had a small bowel recection 3 yrs ago, 2 ft of small intestine with 5" of colon removed as well. Went into a remission up until about a month ago. I have the worst back/flank/stomach, all right sided. I have not run more than a mile in a month and I am loosing it! My MD has me on Pentasa. Last week they put me on the Medrol dose pack thinking I had a pulled muscle and started making me go to physical therapy. I have pain and D, watery, after any food. I have never had back pain like this before and was wondering if anyone has back issue pain with this. I can say up until a month ago I really had no problems but was only running about 15 miles a week. Right now I don't feel good enough to do anything. Any ideas on the back pain would be greatly appreciated. Heather IP: Logged

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