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wherestheportojohn
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 posted Jul-11-2005 06:26 AM
   
shelley,
good to hear that things are okay with the storm....as for running pace:I want to increase my weekly distance to a steady 20-25pmw, but need to SLOW DOWN so I can increase and not injure myself.
I typically do 15-18mpw [this week I actually did 20 miles plus a day of biking plus three days of lifting weights....so today is a only a recovery yoga day!] These 52yr old joints don't recover very quickly! LOL
In addition, the PITSTOP issues have made me so angry, that I haven't WANTED to get better or enjoy my running.
I've got to realize that this 'issue' is going to be here until further notice, and that I'll simply have to find ways to improve my running in spite of my problem.
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wherestheportojohn
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posted Jul-16-2005 06:12 AM
Hello Colon'ists
Hope the summer is going well for all of you and that 'issues' aren't hindering your weekly mileage. LOLThe heat and humidity have been unreal here [as I'm sure it has been for you too!] I appreciate that I can get up and moving at 4am to at least beat the sunshine...the humidity today was 100% with 70 degree temp at 4am (ick!)
My pace is turtlesque in the summer, but that hasn't concerned me.
Duh, the COLON issues are still what plague my mind/body. *ugh* nothin' new....same old same old:
four miles with four pitstops today, GOOD LORD! My GI doc is unavailable tll 7/25....so no news as far as trying anything new before my scheduled colonoscopy in August. take care [This message has been edited by wherestheportojohn (edited Jul-16-2005).]
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ShelleyM
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posted Jul-16-2005 09:47 AM
Karen-Good to hear from you. Sorry you are still having so many pitstops. I have been able to go this week just fine. Got out late this morning, and man it was hot! Went 8.5 to finish my week with 30.5. I didn't think I would be able to make my goal this week, since I did 45 last week, but I made it! Keep in touch!
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jerri
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posted Jul-18-2005 12:45 AM
Twelve pages of dialogue you've all generated and I have been very appreciative to read all your thoughts and experiences everyone- but you all are getting way too chatty now and off the issue we all need to remedy! First of all, are you all drinking TONS of water, which is often listed as a cause of our type of distress? I am having some luck with eating Metamucil wafers as well. I have read that internal hemorrhoids and or fissures (due due to lack of hydration) can be the source of such bleeding and that is my GI's latest guess for me. My symptoms vary from run to run but at this point can't run for more than 20 minutes most days or my insides feel horrible and I bleed. I've been a runner for 30 years and this is a huge change to my lifestyle and mental outlook.
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ShelleyM
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posted Jul-18-2005 06:15 AM
Jerri-Sorry for getting off the subject 
I have been enjoying conversing with others that have our same problem.I take 3 bottles of water with me on a longer run (10 and over.) I find that sometimes if I drink too much at once, my stomach wants to empty. I try to just drink a little every few miles. I have to be very careful. I have had this problem for 20 years, but mine is IBD. Lately it has been okay (knock on wood.) I have only been running for the past 5 or 6 years, and the poops while running only started about 2 or 3 years ago during a massive flare-up. Now it happens quite regularly, flare-up or not. The bleeding for me is all UC related. I have blood in my stools quite often. The GI says this is normal for anyone with IBD. I often wonder about that, but who am I to question the professional? Good and poop free runs to all! ------------------
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wherestheportojohn
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posted Jul-18-2005 07:03 AM
sorry that the chatting is annoying to some....for me, it's either chat or slit my wriststhis issue is driving me insane, so I NEED to connect with others on more than a 'medical discussion' level I feel for those who suffer with the blood....I am fortunate not to have this problem. And yes, I drink up to a gallon of water per day....but the poop problems are when I run, no other time. The water doesn't 'bring on' colon distress throughout the day when I'm drinking my water.
In fact, when I run at 4am, I don't drink or eat before running ....and I always eliminate [both] before heading out, but it doesn't seem to help one way or the other. today is a rest day/ran on the TM and lifted yesterday cheers and let's PLEASE keep linked up to help each other out
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jerri
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posted Jul-22-2005 12:12 AM
ShellyM, I was wondering, do you get other symptoms besides urgency and bleeding? I sometimes have a problem- free run, only to begin feeling terrible an hour or so later, as if my insides have been all jangled loose- and needing to then find a bathroom. And there's nothing to come out. Those are the days I feel like something is terribly wrong and I vow to never run again. A nights' sleep usually clears up those symptoms but I stay mentally jangled a few days more.
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ShelleyM
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posted Jul-22-2005 06:28 AM
Jerri, when I'm running I can feel it coming. Other times, I get severe cramping and have to rush to the bathroom. I can blow blood and mucus without any poop when I am having a bad flare.
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wherestheportojohn
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posted Jul-22-2005 06:31 AM
jerri,
"problem-free run"....I sure wish that term was part of my vernacular. LOL(Seriously, I have no suggestions since I don't have the bleeding; the urgency and incontinent-like symptons are my issues.) I see that someone else started a similar topic a day or two ago.....perhaps we could invite him/her over to our thread.
Misery loves company. No changes here: continue to need to make 1-3 pitstops per run depending on length of run.
Today and tomorrow I'll be on the TM watching th Tour de France and avoiding the heat/humidity/haze. positive thought to everyone
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wherestheportojohn
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posted Jul-22-2005 06:37 AM
hi shelley....we were posting at the same time
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MaineRunner2001
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posted Jul-22-2005 12:59 PM
Here's a very good web page about anal fissures:http://www.boardsailor.com/jack/af/ quote:
Originally posted by jerri:
Twelve pages of dialogue you've all generated and I have been very appreciative to read all your thoughts and experiences everyone- but you all are getting way too chatty now and off the issue we all need to remedy! First of all, are you all drinking TONS of water, which is often listed as a cause of our type of distress? I am having some luck with eating Metamucil wafers as well. I have read that internal hemorrhoids and or fissures (due due to lack of hydration) can be the source of such bleeding and that is my GI's latest guess for me. My symptoms vary from run to run but at this point can't run for more than 20 minutes most days or my insides feel horrible and I bleed. I've been a runner for 30 years and this is a huge change to my lifestyle and mental outlook.
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furseal
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posted Jul-25-2005 12:12 AM
Hi all. I think I just had my first bout with this tonight. It's been really hot and humid here, so my stomach hasn't been quite up to par since the heat wave started - I'm not one that handles heat all that well and never have been. So I've been running at night, sometimes after work at 11 PM (I work 2nd shift) to avoid the heat, and my milage has been down a bit since I've had some other obligations going on as well. The other obligations slacked off, so this week I was trying to get my milage up again. I know better than to try to immediately get back to where I was, but was working back up to it. Well, today was the WORST for the heat and humidity. 97 during the day, dewpoints in the 70s. I figured "I just HAVE to do a longer run tonight...I've been doing so good!". Managed 2 training runs (3 miles each) and a 2 mile tempo run this week, had 4 miles planned for tonight. As I said, my stomach/lower GI tract haven't been 100% since the heat, but NOTHING like what happened tonight. I guess I don't have to tell you all about it, given 12 pages of discussion on the matter, but I decided to try the long run anyway. MISTAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At about mile 3.5 something in my lower GI tract just kind of dully ached. I thought, as sometimes happens, that I'd just have to move my bowels first thing when I got home. Sometimes a good run sets things in motion. I did have to go, first thing in the door. And then some. No blood, but it was like my body was trying to "go" long after I had passed what needed to be passed (sorry, I know this is kind of gross). I think part of it was muscle strain, since I've been pushing harder this week, and for me, if my hips and back get strained, sometimes I'll get IBS like symptoms for a few days. I think I also overheated/dehydrated to a point. I've had an Immodium AD and some Gatorade, sipped slowly and I'm feeling a bit better now. But does this sound like what you all are dealing with, or an isolated incident of bad conditions?
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jdmom3
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posted Jul-25-2005 11:26 AM
I'm glad this topic came back up to the top. I've been having recurring problems with my bowels during runs of all lengths. It seems to come and go. Some days are okay (like yesterday when I made it through 17 miles with no pitstops) and others are awful (can't even make it through 3 miles without needing to stop). Being sufficiently hydrated does seem to help the problem, as does making sure to empty out as much as possible beforehand. It's so frustrating though not to know when it is going to strike and it robs my runs of any enjoyment. I do have bleeding issues sometimes, normally after long runs. Jerri, I was interested in your posts as my GI seems also to think it's caused by hemorrhoids (caused by my 3 pregnancies no doubt). My colonoscopy was clean and I never have bleeding problems except after long runs. I have not tried Immodium yet, but am thinking that is the next step. It's great to hear that this is not an uncommon problem! Meg
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Flab Gordon
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posted Jul-25-2005 01:32 PM
Hey everybody!
My name is Flab Gordon, and I have colon issues while running early in the morning.I've tried just about everything, and the only thing that seems to work, to keep me from having to stop to go to the bathroom on an early morning run, is to take an Immodium the night before a run. Is there a point where a person can be taking too much Immodium? Is one pill a night 5-6 nights a week too much?
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jrunner4
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posted Jul-25-2005 09:27 PM
Wow, I read this entire thread while bored at work today. I myself have only experienced these problems a couple of times on runs (once there was woods, another time a gas station...which ended up overflowing, but that's another story), and then again after some hard races, but I am amazed at how bad some of you have it! WTPJ, I'm certainly no expert on the subject, just with a couple of physio/neuroscience courses in me, but I was wondering if anyone has considered possible nerve damage involvement in your case, especially since you had a rather violent childbirth it seems, since nothing else seems to be showing up or working? For instance, could running be somehow activating your "dumping" reflex, which normally is where food in your stomach causes a mass peristalsis in your intestines, pushing everything on its way out? Maybe the leakage could have something to do with nerve damage to your anal sphincter muscle? It's a pretty far out guess, but I think you've had pretty much everything suggested to you by now  I would say maybe it has something to do with lack of blood flow to your colon while you're running too, but since you're ok biking, who even knows. I feel bad for you, keep plugging away!
Anyways ladies (or at least, vast majority ladies), I hope you guys can continue to find solutions! It seems like some of you have found some things that work by now through this post. One time, I had some chinese buffet food that had apparently been buffeting a little too long, and so I experienced your problems for a week or so...meaning I give you all major credit for dealing with this every day, and still running! Good luck to all!
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ShelleyM
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posted Jul-26-2005 05:45 AM
Furseal-Yours does seem to sound like an isolated case, given the fact that it has never happened before. Unless it starts happening regularly, I am thinking that it was whatever you ate the day you ran or perhaps the day before. Flab-Since I don't take Immodium, maybe some of the people that do can answer your question. I have IBD, and don't want to chance taking something like that without my dr's approval. Good runs to all (no pun intended!!) ------------------
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Katastrophic669
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posted Jul-26-2005 05:53 AM
Please try Herbal Fiber Blend by the aim companies. It has been a life saver. I'm only 30 and I wish I'd been introduced to this product years ago.It's an herbal colon cleanser. You take 3-6 capsules(powder available) 2 times per day or more depending on your needs before meals. Go the theaimcompanies.com and get a data sheet on it. They also have Barley Life which is a whole food in a bottle(gives you tons of energy) Herbal Release( cleans out lymphatic system) and Glucochrome Check out the site.
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wherestheportojohn
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posted Jul-26-2005 06:39 AM
jrunner4,
thanks for your thoughts and concerns.
I agree with you that my first son's delivery being part of the issue....heck, it's gotta be SOMETHING since the GI doc and I can't seem to find an answer.
And yes, running [or sometimes walking/standing] is when this occurs....never lifting/aerobics/biking. I'm an odd duck!flabgordon,
My GI doc said that daily immodium is fine as long as you don't become constipated. I've been experimenting with the imodium and have found that taking 2 before bed, and then running ~4:15am has slowed things down to 1-2 pitstops per 3-5 miles.
Last Saturday I *only* stopped 2x in my 6 mile TM run.
For some of you, this is unacceptable....but for me it's an improvement, considering that I'm usually stopping every mile. Possible TM run in a bit since I don't tolerate heat/humidity [5am 73 degrees and 94% humidity in southern wisconsin]....then weights this afternoon.
Tomorrow and/or Thurs I'll run outside since the overnight temps will be down to a FRIGID [LOL] 60 degrees. WHEEE! good health and happy running ------------------
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yogini runner
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posted Jul-26-2005 09:21 PM
Regarding fissures and fistulas from the allied health point of view:Fissures will probably be apparent to external examination and fistulas will likley cause a multitude of other symptoms from peritonitis to bad vaginal infections. My coloscopy revealed internal hemmoroids that show bright blood after an event like total evacuation.
The mucus afterwords is because the body has made the mucus for lube, but it wasn't needed and now needs to get out. If there is bleeding it will come with the mucus as well as late stools. Motrin and other pain relievers that are blood thinners make this effect much worse!!!! I wouldn't swallow this except that my GI doc, about my age revealed he had submitted to two (2) colonscopies to make sure that was the cause. He had his wife do one as well.. and they are in their early thirties. Lactose intolerance is so common in adults that they rarely test for it. An IGG and IGA blood test to test for celiac disease is increasingly common. Work with your doctors and listen to your bodies folks! Milk products, hot and humid all make it worse for me. Hydration is key...plain seltzer is a nice shift from water.;
Watch sugar / juice intake as this can have an osmotic effect. Happy running and good luck!
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wherestheportojohn
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posted Aug-03-2005 07:08 AM
Good morning!here's hoping that all is well for our 'colon'ists same old same old for me: I use 2 immodiums before going to bed [if I'm running at 4 the next morning] and it seems to have slowed the pitstops to 1-2 per run....I've come to live with it I guess. Nothing else seems to work at this point. No run today/heading out on the bike in 10 min
carry on and good luck
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vt2k
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posted Aug-03-2005 11:09 PM
Ok, I'll admit I didn't have time to read this entire thread (it's late), but it seems like the vast majority of you differ from the problem I have. I'm a healthy 27 year old male. I've never had any medical conditions of any sort. I run about 7 miles/day, 6 days a week. For the sake of my joints (not to mention avoiding harsh elements and climates), I do most of my running on a treadmill at the gym, so a bathroom is never that far away. I almost always run at night after work - anywhere between 6-9PM. If I go late, I have a light dinner, and if I go earlier, I have dinner after I get back. Usually, (here's the gross part - sorry) my stools are pretty small in size, but I usually go 4-5 times a day. Even if I go right before I go to the gym, about 2-3 miles into my workout I'll have to go. Even tonight, when I decided to get in a 10 mile run, I ended up having to stop twice. Since I'm never that far from a bathroom 99% of the time I go running, it's not a major inconvenience, but it's kind of annoying to have to interrupt my workout for it and weighs on my mind on the rare occasion I run outside. I wouldn't say it happens all the time, but at least half, if not most of the time. If anyone has any advice or can point me to a spot in this forum where someone had some advice that might work for my situation, I'd appreciate it - thanks.
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acp50
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posted Aug-04-2005 11:19 AM
Hi fellow colonists,
Sorry I've been absent for so long! Hey Shelley & Karen, same old sh*t, right? (my feeble attempt at humor...). V2Kt (?), I don't have much to offer in the way of advice but I sympathize. I find I either have to wait up to 2 hours to run, stop my run prematurely, or, well, you don't want to know the third option, which I strive to avoid. I've been doing OK with my runs of late, only because I've been getting up at 5 AM, then waiting until around 8 AM to run....It's getting very hot here about that time and I wish I could head out at 6 or so....I went thru a bad patch recently and upped my immodium from 1/day to 1 and a half for a few days...the problem was corrected, but then I was constipated for a few days (which I prefer), am now back to 1/day. I'm building my mileage back up to run NYC Nov.6th, so hopefully the colon will fare well at the higher mileages....Maybe I should try to get up at 3 AM....JEEZ this problem is a pain in the ..........Hope all are doing well this summer and not letting our little (?) problem stop you from doing what you love. May the force be with you!
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ShelleyM
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posted Aug-05-2005 06:02 AM
VT2K-I don't have anything to offer either, since my problem is IBD.ACP50-I hope you are able to run Nov 6 with no problems. I was thinking 3AM too! I've been getting up at 4 on the weekends to be able to run my 10-12 at 7. I hate to think of the alternative too! Good runs to all!
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wherestheportojohn
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posted Aug-05-2005 06:47 AM
TGIF~hi ann,
long time no see....I snuck a peek at another thread and saw that it looks like your weight loss is going well!
good job!
And I'd forgotten that you were training for a mary....WOW!
If I *ever* get this colon situation resolved, I've promised myself to train for a 1/2 mary....that will be my 'reward' for being 'cured'
HAHAHA As for getting up early: welcome to my world!
I'm out the door by 4:15 on the days that I run outdoors [TM days are anytime/no schedule]
I've trained myself to 'move things along' almost routinely now before I head out...but I *STILL* have to stop 1-2 times depending on the length of the run.
Last night I took 2 imodium before bed, then today I woke at 3:30 because my body needed a bm....out the door by 4am.
2 pitstops in a 10k run.
Frustrating, eh?
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wherestheportojohn
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posted Aug-05-2005 06:54 AM
vt2k,
I'm not sure how much fiber you get in a day, but you could try Metamucil caplets. Perhaps they'll give more bulk and stop you from having smaller more frequent movements.....just a thought, take it or leave it.try 3 in the morning and 3 at night for starters to see how your system handles it...since you're a man, you might eventually be able to take 4-5am and 4-5pm. my body adapted well and my GI doc wants me to continue to take 3 of them 2x/day good luck
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