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JasonsDrivingForce
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 posted May-29-2007 03:20 PM
  
Well I managed to get in a few longer runs this weekend. I did 10 miles on Saturday, 13.1 miles on Sunday, and 3.1 miles on Monday. The weather was just so beautiful that I could not resist going out every morning. I ran each one of these training runs quite hard. I am training for the 5k right now but I plan on doing another Marathon so I wanted to get some longer runs in also.I did the 10 miles on the first day in 1:14:30. That also included a 12:48 2.1 miles where I was trying to work on some speed. I walked for 1 minute after those miles and kept the watch running the whole time. The second day I was smart enough to put several water bottles at the 6.6 mile turn around point. It got hot quickly and I ended up consuming 88 ounces of water/Gatorade in the half that day. I finished the 13.1 miles in 1:41:34. What was really good is that my splits were very even. I did the first 6.55 miles in 49:47 and the second 6.55 miles in 51:47. By the third day my legs were starting to feel fatigued but I wanted to get at least one stroller workout in. My daughter woke up early so I decided to take her out for a quick run. We did the 5k in 20:39. I was hoping to be faster but something was not setup right on the single jogging stroller. The alignment and balance was just off on it. Oh well I will use the double this weekend at the Run for Research. The double is a newer model so you can adjust the alignment and balance on it. So I felt pretty good about where I am distance wise. I have learned to balance my fluid intake much better than I used to. That helps me a lot! I don’t fade in the longer distances anymore. My cumulative time for the marathon was 3:16:43. That still would not be a BQ but not too bad considering I feel like I could come close to that time in a real race right now. That 3:10:59 is crazy fast! I want to try for a low 19’s in the race on Saturday. It will be tough to do but I really think this is my last shot at it. The stroller will be just too heavy by the time the next race rolls around in the fall. Good luck and see you at the races!
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Pablo de la mehico
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posted May-30-2007 03:03 PM
Race for the Cure is coming up.I have a sore hip flexor and right shin splint that is healing, I have been resting for a week and gained a couple of pounds in the process. Darn memorial day cookouts...lol. Tonight I resume with an easy 2 mile cross country, and hopefully within one week I will be prepared for the 5k in Raleighwood.
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Jun-01-2007 09:07 AM
Here is the gmaps for the Run for Research on Saturday night. This course is actually pretty fast even though it doesn't look it.http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=1007427 ------------------
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Jun-02-2007 06:22 PM
Good luck on your 5k.Be careful on your long-runs. Give yourself time to absorb the training by resting and increasing the long runs slowly. I have confidence you will kill your next marathon--just keep training smart. Bob ------------------
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rlemert
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posted Jun-02-2007 10:45 PM
Family commitments will keep from doing the Komen run next weekend, so I decided to go ahead and do the CCFA Run for Research this evening. I'm kind of glad I did. It was a nicely organized small event, even if the course was tougher than one would think by looking at it. The hills weren't all that big, but they seemed almost constant. On the other hand, conditions were almost ideal for this time of year, especially considering what we've been seeing at this time of day the rest of the week. I liked how the organizers tried to get everyone lined up by expected finish times. I don't know if they were completely successful, but I think I did see a few people adjust their starting positions. I did have to pass a few people at the start, but I really never felt 'crowded' like I have in other races. I heard there was a bit of a mix-up at the start, but when you line up where I do the start is sort of a mystical concept anyway. You never hear the gun/whistle/whatever; people just all of a sudden start moving forward and you start moving with them. I was a little concerned about that down-hill finish line, though. I half expected someone to go running full tilt across the line, then either trip or crash through the end of it due to their momentum. The best part for me, though, was the fact that I managed to convince my family to come watch me (the free food helped). Now it will probably be another year before I can get them to another race.
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posted Jun-03-2007 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by rlemert:
Family commitments will keep from doing the Komen run next weekend, so I decided to go ahead and do the CCFA Run for Research this evening. I'm kind of glad I did. It was a nicely organized small event, even if the course was tougher than one would think by looking at it. The hills weren't all that big, but they seemed almost constant. On the other hand, conditions were almost ideal for this time of year, especially considering what we've been seeing at this time of day the rest of the week. I liked how the organizers tried to get everyone lined up by expected finish times. I don't know if they were completely successful, but I think I did see a few people adjust their starting positions. I did have to pass a few people at the start, but I really never felt 'crowded' like I have in other races. I heard there was a bit of a mix-up at the start, but when you line up where I do the start is sort of a mystical concept anyway. You never hear the gun/whistle/whatever; people just all of a sudden start moving forward and you start moving with them. I was a little concerned about that down-hill finish line, though. I half expected someone to go running full tilt across the line, then either trip or crash through the end of it due to their momentum. The best part for me, though, was the fact that I managed to convince my family to come watch me (the free food helped). Now it will probably be another year before I can get them to another race.
rlemert, It was good seeing you last night. Good run, by the way. However, I tend to disagree with you a little about the event. I thought it was extremely poorly organized. First the 5K start was horrendous! Someone came over a distant PA and said “The 5K will start in a moment, runners set, go”. Just like that all in one sentence as Jim Young was screaming “no,no,no”. I tried to tell everyone on the starting line to stop but there were a few young kids that were hell bent on getting out of the gate fast. And so we all started! I probably lost about 6 seconds by waiting at the starting line. Heck, I was right beside the Kenyans who had also waited for the real start. In the end the Kenyans still won but it was extremely dangerous how it started. They also only gave trophies for 1st and 2nd place in each age group. For a race that gives out substantial cash prizes for the winners I would at least expect a little something for 3rd overall, wouldn’t you? Anyway, I thoroughly enjoyed the event otherwise. I will remember this race forever. My son ran his first consecutive mile all by himself! I didn’t even take the stroller with me so there was no way I could have assisted him. He just kept going and going and going. At the end he managed a pretty good sprint also. I almost think he could have done the 5K! He finished the 1 mile in 12:59:99. Not bad considering he is 3.5 years old! You couldn’t imagine how proud I was of him when he crossed the line. Now I know that most of you will say I must have been pushing him to do it and he is too young. I actually agree with you that he is too young but I am not pushing him in the least bit. I only signed him up for the race when he begged me to and when he said he was getting to old for the stroller. He wanted to do it and he enjoyed doing it. He had a huge smile on his face the entire way! I will do a full race report later when I get more time and I will post a link here. See you all at the Race for the Cure next weekend!
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Jun-03-2007 09:18 PM
Travis, when I started runnung in 2003, the best mile I could run in a 5k was 13 minutes. So you kid is on a fast track. I expect to see him pass me in a few years.Funny start to the 5k. Anybody want to post their time? Bob ------------------
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misterfun
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posted Jun-04-2007 10:51 AM
I couldn't make the Saturday evening 5k, so I ran the Run the Quay 5k in Fuquay-Varina Saturday morning. The F-V Kiwanis club does a good job organizing and pulling off that race. The course meanders through rolling residential neighborhoods; there were some hills, but nothing unfair. The Kiwanis club includes cash awards of $125 for the overall male winner and the overall female winner and $75 for the second-place finishers. Not surprisingly, the winners were fast: 15:56 for the male and 20:16 for the female. They had a very decent post-race spread for all the runners -- I love instant Gatorade mixed extra-strong (seriously) -- and the t-shirts were nice but nothing fancy. Discounts for local businesses in the goody bag. Jim Young was managing this race, too, so he had a full day between the two 5Ks. Full race results at http://results.active.com/uploads/txt/45049.txt, and approximate course map is at http://www.usatf.org/routes/view.asp?rID=132506. Race for the Cure on Saturday, then my feet get some weekends off! :-) Brad Isaiah 40:31
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Pablo de la mehico
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posted Jun-04-2007 01:29 PM
dumb question as I am A newbie to running. During the start does everyones chip automatically start at the gun, or does it start after you cross the starting line. It seems that if you start in the back of the pack and wait for the mob to move you could lose up to about 30 seconds if all the timer start together. So could someone enlighten me.Gracias
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rlemert
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posted Jun-04-2007 02:50 PM
A racing "chip" is a passive device. When it is activated by an RF signal from a timing mat, it responds by sending out a return signal that contains an encoded serial number. The race computer decodes that signal, looks up the serial number in a data base to find who you are, and logs the time the signal was received. The start time is triggered by a race official when the starter signals the start of the race - this is done independent of any chip signals. In my race Saturday night there was no starting-line mat, so we only had a chip-measured "gun-time" from this race. I timed myself in 29:46 but my official time is 29:58 - thus, I lost 12 seconds getting to the starting line. In other races there are both starting-line and finish-line mats. In this case the computer notes the times you cross both mats, and reports your "chip" time as the difference between them. This is really just a courtesy to the runners, though, because "gun time" is the only official race time. Some longer races (marathons and half-marathons) will have mats at intermediate locations as well. My finisher's certificate from my one marathon lists these intermediate times so I can see how strong my pacing was, but I think they're real function is to make sure people don't cut any corners and run the full distance.
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Pablo de la mehico
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posted Jun-04-2007 03:25 PM
Thanks..so if there is no mat at the starting line the time starts at the sound of the gun? Wow thats a bummer for slow people, Not only are they slow but the fast people get a head start : (
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Jun-04-2007 05:32 PM
Pablo, remember what really matters is how you feel about your run. You can record your own time and write it on the race number and save it for the future. Most 5ks though typically only take fifteen seconds to get to the start from the rear. Bob ------------------
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Pablo de la mehico
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posted Jun-06-2007 04:17 PM
Cool ! Well i will run my race and try to keep it steady, but I am still going to start near the front, The faster people since they are nimble anyway shouldnt have a problem passing me.So the Hip flexor is much better, ran a 2.2 cross country yesterday and it was a tad sore but not bad. A friend of mine who is an avid runner told me the Race for the Cure is a weird race. I said how so? Hes said lots of women...,,i dont see a problem with that. Hes said well he was running next to a woman and the crowd was yelling KICK HIS ASS ! KICK HIS ASS !... 
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Pablo de la mehico
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posted Jun-07-2007 11:11 AM
Well despite that, the ladys at the registration last night at Cary towne center were very nice.My wife and daughter both signed up. The race for the cure in Raleigh will be my daughters first 5k and she is excited. We are however not happy about the 7:15 start time. The whole event ends by like 10:30 in the morning. I dont know why they dont push it all forward a couple of hours. Maybe its a good thing because of the heat, gonna be hot hot hot on saturday. Anyway I am going to TRY and start off slow, and run an even pace with negative splits. Wow i sound like a real runner now.
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Jun-07-2007 11:28 AM
The Competitive division of the race for the cure starts at 7:15 because there are SOOOOOO many people doing this event! How else are you going to get 20,000 people through the 3.1 miles before the heat gets deadly(If it doesn’t rain it will get deadly hot on Saturday)? Put it this way if you started at the back of the pack last year in the open race then it took you almost 1 hour to reach the starting line. Some people who started up front and walked finished before others were able to even start!------------------
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Pablo de la mehico
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posted Jun-07-2007 12:53 PM
GET OUTTA TOWN! I had no idea there were that many people...lol. 1 hour to get to the start line....bahahahaha!
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Jun-08-2007 12:41 AM
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Travis, when I started runnung in 2003, the best mile I could run in a 5k was 13 minutes. So you kid is on a fast track. I expect to see him pass me in a few years.Funny start to the 5k. Anybody want to post their time? Bob
We just bought our son a pair of real running shoes. Look the heck out! If he can do a 12:59 in flip flops imagine what he will do in a pair of running shoes! He is already talking smack that he is going to try to beat everyone in the mile race! ------------------
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misterfun
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posted Jun-08-2007 02:09 PM
Mythbusting: The early starting time for the competitive 5k at the Race for the Cure is because of the heat, not the crowds. (But we do enjoy having the walkers out of the way when we're trying to set a PR :-). The competitive 5k had less than 1,350 people last year; the 20,000 number comes from all the registrants for all the day's activities, including those who "Sleep in" for the cure.It doesn't take an hour to reach the starting line, even in the open, recreational 5k. The recreational 5k starts at 9:15 and the mile walk starts at 9:45; I don't think they could do that if the starting area was still crowded with 5k starters. (Admittedly, during my 5k finishes in the past, I have made the mistake of assuming the milers leaving the campus were still just starting the 5k.) I don't know how to guesstimate the number of people in the open, recreational 5k, but it's certainly smaller than some other regional races, and they don't take an hour to get everyone underway. I would get there very, very early no matter what you're taking part in. Ford always runs out of their commemorative giveaway bandanas, so get one of those early if you can. (The bandanas were better in the early years.) The lines for the free massages are shortest while the women's 5k and the open 5k are underway. :-) Find a vendor giving their stuff out in a bag so that you can have something to carry your additional goodies in. Line up for the open 5k along the center fence where you can watch the finishers in the women's 5k. Kudos to the people on Barmettler Street for the super soakers and to the water station folks wearing the floats; your creativity is much appreciated by the runners. This is easily the best running party in Raleigh and not to be missed; I think this will be my 10th consecutive year in it. Brad Isaiah 40:31
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Pablo de la mehico
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posted Jun-08-2007 03:01 PM
Thanks for the info. I am in the competitive 5k. Someone told me the parking at RBC was a bummer, because after the race the lines getting on the buses were so long that they decided to walk back to their car. I, being a native of Raleigh am certain I can find a place close to the race site to park. I am going to get there very early.I was looking at the results and noticed the "guntimes" and "chiptimes". I noticed that people with exact same paces had different final chiptimes. whats the deal ?
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misterfun
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posted Jun-08-2007 04:27 PM
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I was looking at the results and noticed the "guntimes" and "chiptimes". I noticed that people with exact same paces had different final chiptimes. whats the deal ?
I believe the paces are calculated on the guntime -- the time between the gun going off to start the race and your chip crossing the finish line to finish the race. If you start right on the starting line and I start a minute behind you, but both of us run the same pace, we'll have the same chiptime (difference between your chip crossing the starting line and your chip crossing the finish line) but your guntime will be a minute less than mine. Then in the results, even though we actually ran the same pace, the pace displayed for me will be slower than yours since it's based on my slower guntime. (But I can take my chiptime from the results and calcuate what my real pace was.) Last year, I finished with some runners who had chiptimes much less than mine because I started way ahead of them in the pack; we were both credited with the same pace because of where we finished. Brad Isaiah 40:31
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Jun-11-2007 12:26 AM
Actually Brad I don’t agree with you on this. It was actually hotter for the early morning competitive race this year(The sun was out) that it was for the mile race at 9:45. I know I ran both of them. However, every race was extremely crowded. Also there were still people lined up to start the open 5K when I started the 1 mile run with my son(That was 30 minutes after the start of the 5k). The mile race starts in a different place from the 5K races! My wife stood at the end of the open 5K because that is also the end of the 1 mile. She said that the last runner in the 5K crossed the start line just before 10:00 AM. Nearly 45 minutes after the race had started. Apparently a lot of people did sign up to run but never showed up because there weren’t nearly as many people actually participating in the open event this year.The heat in the 5K got too me. I was drinking both water and Gatorade constantly but I just couldn’t cool down. I struggled to break 21:00 but I did enjoy the event. Oh yea, I was actually 30 seconds faster with the double stroller last week than I was this week. I guess I should just give up the solo running and go back to the stroller. I just seem to do better with the stroller. My son had an excellent race though. He got run over by a reckless teen at the start but he picked himself up and kept on going. He ran very consistently but some of those hills were tough on him. He finished up with a 14:28 which is pretty amazing at 3.5. If I keep getting slower and slower and he keeps getting faster then maybe I will make him push me in the stroller. I have always wanted to know what it is like to get a ride!
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Mythbusting: The early starting time for the competitive 5k at the Race for the Cure is because of the heat, not the crowds. (But we do enjoy having the walkers out of the way when we're trying to set a PR :-). The competitive 5k had less than 1,350 people last year; the 20,000 number comes from all the registrants for all the day's activities, including those who "Sleep in" for the cure.It doesn't take an hour to reach the starting line, even in the open, recreational 5k. The recreational 5k starts at 9:15 and the mile walk starts at 9:45; I don't think they could do that if the starting area was still crowded with 5k starters. (Admittedly, during my 5k finishes in the past, I have made the mistake of assuming the milers leaving the campus were still just starting the 5k.) I don't know how to guesstimate the number of people in the open, recreational 5k, but it's certainly smaller than some other regional races, and they don't take an hour to get everyone underway. Brad Isaiah 40:31
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Pablo de la mehico
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posted Jun-11-2007 08:09 AM
Jason, knowing from experience with a son now in college, that they grow up fast and quickly overtake you in sports. But atleast you can still say you taught them everthing they know. Well i PR'ed with a 26:40 something time, which i was happy about. (Being an x smoker in my 2nd 5k and not training to hard) It would have been alot faster but we started 3 minutes back from the gun and yes it was extremely crowded, I was zig zagging my way through the crowd for the first mile. At the very beginning I was barely moving for about 30 seconds which was frustrating. I was however passing people the entire way, which was good for motivation and mile 2, i was holding below an 8 minute pace. I was excited about that, because i wanted a sub 25 time, but then on mile three I was dying fast. The hills had killed me and the sun was beating down and i was longing for the shady spots. I did have a decent kick at the end and cheered my wife and daughter on as they approached. It was a fun experience overall. I just checked out the results page. It's listed in order based on "Gun Time". Now why in the world wouldn't they do it by chip time to give a more accurate representation? Anyway going to do some more serious training now, and look for a less crowded faster course to PR on. : )
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Jun-22-2007 03:35 PM
I have noticed the very small number of biting flies this year. Usually we are mobbed in June with these terrible bugs, but we got a reprieve this year.7.25 miles on the Umstead loop at 1 PM. Took the stuffing out of me in the heat--plus my running has been lacking. Only got buzzed a couple of times. Bob ------------------
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posted Jun-22-2007 05:54 PM
Hello everyone,
I have a friend who wants to run/walk the City of Oaks half marathon this Fall. She did not see a time limit listed on the race Web site, so she contacted a member of the race committee. Here is his reply:Thanks for your interest in the race! We have tried to make the course as walker friendly as possible, though we do have a time limit based on traffic and course limitations. The half marathon has a 3.5 hour time limit and the full marathon has a 7 hour time limit--both of which translate to about a 16 minute per mile pace. Good luck with your training! Benjamin Hannas
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November 4, 2007 Raleigh, NC I know this won't apply to the speedy folks in this forum, but if you have friends and family who want to run/walk, then I hope this is useful. BTW, anybody running the Great Raleigh Road Race on July 4th? I'll be there:-)
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Jun-23-2007 11:11 PM
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BTW, anybody running the Great Raleigh Road Race on July 4th? I'll be there:-)
I will be at the Great Raleigh road race. This used to be one of my favorite races on the old course. It was pretty windy before. Shouldn't be windy this time though. Here is the gmaps for this course. It should actually be very, very, very fast as long as the temps are down. I will be running with both kids as my wife is out with an injury(Broken leg!). Her injury makes my broken foot at mile 5 of 26.2 look like a mosquito bite! http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=1075322
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