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emlennon
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posted May-06-2005 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for emlennon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Jen,
Welcome to the area! I saw you are a vet tech -- where are you working? I'm in vet school at NCSU. And I keep my horse in Holly Springs!! Right on Avent Ferry Rd off of route 55.

Lake Johnson is a pretty run but I"m not sure if it would be worth the drive -- the thing I don't like about it is that the loop is SHORT -- I think it's like 2.5 miles around, and then to get to the other part of the loop, you have to cross a semi-busy road (which annoys me) and it's a little bit rocky and steep/muddy in areas across the street. It's also paved, which I don't like.

I haven't been to Lake Shelley, and I haven't found the Tobacco Trail yet!

I think Umstead would be your best bet -- especially if you want a hill workout!!

Good luck!
Liz

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justjen
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posted May-06-2005 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for justjen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks guys! It does indeed help!
I saw the weekend weather report this morning and am itching to get out and get some miles in, most of my exercise this past week has been unpacking and moving..still exercise, but just NOT the same!

Bobalu - I did indeed see the posts about Umstead, and frankly you guys are scaring me with all that hill talk! I ran my first marathon in January in Bermuda - nothing but hills for 26.2 miles, and I can still remember the pain...

Liz! I'll be working at VSH (surgery/neuro department) in Cary when I start...I have had two applications in at the vet school since late Feb/early March and emailed back and forth with Kathy Dick...but I have heard nothing except that my app/resume has been "forwarded to the hiring departments"..very frustrating as the vet school was my first choice. If you'd like to try and get a run in together, shoot me an email and we'll try and work something out, I'd love to have someone to run with every once in awhile!

Thanks again to everybody.


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RunBobaluRun
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posted May-06-2005 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunBobaluRun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Justjen, I think you will like Umstead hills and all. It has made me a better runner. The trails are wide and are made of fine screened granite which is soft, but gives firm footing. You have no cars to worry about and it is frequented with runners and bicyclists. The trails really have prevented injury for me. I am overweight and in my late forties with only 20 months of running experience. Thanks to trail running, I have been able to complete in two half and two full marathons.

American Tobacco Trail in Wake County has this same trail structure, but is fairly flat and follows an old railroad bed.

The bad news for trail running is starting in late May we have a horse/deer fly population that gets very active and this can make trail running not so much fun for a couple of months--worse in June than any other time.

Congradulations on working at Veterinary Specialty Hospital. I have had to use there services a few times, and I am glad they are there.

Bob

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emlennon
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posted May-07-2005 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for emlennon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jen -- I'd love to go running sometime -- in fact I can't wait until I CAN run again -- I'm waiting for the results of my bone scan. . . so if I don't have a stress fracture, it will be 3 weeks off, if I do, about 3 months, according to the ortho. . . AUGUST grr. But I'll email you sometime when I can run again -- it would be fun.

VSH should be an interesting place to work --I interviewed there when I first moved down -- but they wanted me to work more than I really felt comfortable with, just starting vet school and all, so I didn't, but it seemed like a cool place -- one of the awesome oncologists at our school recently went over there -- Dr. Ruslander. He's really nice.

If you really want to work at the vet school, I'd just keep applying. I know they've hired at least one or two people from VSH since I can remember. Other than that I don't know much about the hiring that goes on in the hospital. But hopefully you will like your job at VSH so much you won't want to leave!

Liz

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RunBobaluRun
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posted May-09-2005 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunBobaluRun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Apex 5k report.
http://www.coolrunning.com/forums/Forum8/HTML/007301.shtml

Hope to see you out on the trail.

Bob

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rene paul de la varre
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posted May-09-2005 04:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rene’ Paul de la Varre
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Tel: 919 403 3797
Email: fitteryou@hotmail.com

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Running in the Shadow of Death – Umstead Park, Raleigh, NC


I can barely recall the events of that cool, misty morning on Saturday, April 6,2001 at the start of the Umstead 100 Ultra marathon. Was I in shock or just tired? It’s hard to say. It was 5AM, and already a stream of headlamps illuminated the woods while runners nervously paced back and forth. I was supposed to feel charged up and psyched to turn in my best performance ever, since it was going to be my fathers first time watching me run these crazy distances. After the run we were supposed to drive to Florida for a family reunion.

Just three days before the race, he died in a fire that destroyed our home and a lifetime of memories.

I was alone, and feeling numb, yet determined to carry on and finish the race. In the pre-dawn darkness, we set off near a lake, then slowly ironing out the early morning stiffness headed uphill along a pine-straw covered trail. The crowd of runners soon thinned out, each settling into their own pace.

The course is a network of gentle, rolling hills, with some dramatic uphill killers. By mile ten I was totally spaced out, looking up only to spot the first aid station. I ran with a vengeance while thoughts of my father preoccupied my mind. As I ran I could feel my sweat mix with tears, eyes blood shot from a lack of sleep and my nerves, frayed from the turmoil of the past three days.

I entered this race as a subject for a study conducted by Appalachian State, on the effects of Vitamin C on the immune system of ultra marathoners. At mile 20 they jabbed a needle into my arm, taking one of three blood samples that afternoon, then they sent me on my way. Loaded with gel caps and PowerAde, I nearly hurled a stream of vomit, and thought I would overdose on the gooey syrup, which I had never taken before. I felt, and probably looked like a junkie. By noon the sun was beating down mercilessly, and after the third loop I became slightly fatigued, but in the spirit of my dad, I lumbered on determined to finish.

The 5,000-acre park, nestled between Raleigh, Cary and Durham is an ideal place to lose yourself and your thoughts. The dense wooded forest, with lakes, streams, and a vast network of hiking trails make this park an ideal location for all sports. Most of the race is on bridle trails, or single lane gravel roads, some of which have up hills that will surely test your lactate threshold.

By the 35th mile I was bouncing along effortlessly, weightless and lost, running in the shadow of death. My father was a great guy who made friends wherever he went and he would have loved the camaraderie of ultra marathoning. At one point I imagined him handing me a drink and yelling, “Come on son, hurry up, so we can get to Florida.” I awoke from my dream to battle another menacing uphill on the final loop.

Reddy Creek Road seemed to last forever. Adding to my miseries was a bystander who said, “Congrats, all the hills are behind you.” Yeah right. I started cursing everything in site and I flicked the bird to no one in particular. Then I vowed to quit running for good, so I stopped for a brief minute to regain my sanity, and then used my anger and a last burst of adrenalin to hurl myself up the hill, and across the finish line with a time of 11:31.Throughout the race I battled a range of emotions, and by the end I was overcome with uncontrollable shaking as they all hit home at once. I felt like I had aged a thousand years in the past 24 hours.

After taking the last blood sample, and debriefing me, the Appalachian State representatives rewarded me with free heart rate monitor, $2,000 worth of blood analysis and $100. Before leaving I couldn’t resist a few hotdogs and hamburgers sizzling on the grill. Race Director Blake Norwood and his staff put on a great show and the support was first class. That night I passed out in a cool bath beside a half empty bottle of Budweiser vowing never to return to Umstead.


March 6, 2005.

I’m back! Can never stay away to long. During my absence the Carolina Godiva Track Club had put together the Umstead Trail Marathon. Most of the course is set on wide bridle trails with a couple of deviations into the woods. There are a few long and painful ascents, but the good news is that after completing this course, any road marathon will seem like a piece of cake.

The loss of my father is still very much with me, yet his spirit inspires me to complete as many marathons as I can. For the past two weeks a trapped nerve in my back had prevented me from running, and on the morning of the race, I looked more like Quasimodo than a runner. I wasn’t even sure I’d finish, much less start. There were intimidating cut off times, which scared the hell out of me. The last thing I wanted was to be pulled from the course, but if that were to happen I had a plan: Hide in the woods until the posse left.

A small, group of 170 runners gathered at the starting line and at 9AM the race began. I shot out of the gate determined to reach each cutoff point. I immediately felt winded, and a sense of panic set in as many runners passed me. By the 3rd mile I fell into a nice groove as we entered the woods to tackle our first trail.

Company Mill Trail is steep and rocky, with a section that is partially covered by a humongous maze of roots, which remind me of an octopus’s tentacles. They call it “The Tree of Death,” yet not even this obstacle prevented me from running with reckless abandon.

The aid stations are staffed with enthusiastic volunteers eagerly handing out cups of water, Gatorade, and energy snacks, while mountain bikers riding by, hollered words of encouragement. At mile 13, Graylyn Trail leads into Sycamore Hiking Trail, which follows the contours of a creek hidden deep in the forest. A short, but nasty ascent comes out on the smooth surface of North Turkey Creek, a cross roads at mile 15. I looks like a marathon rush hour, with runners crossing back and forth and stopping to chat with one another.

On the 18th mile my stomach succumbed to all the electrolytes I had ingested. After a brief pit stop, I high tailed it out of the woods and found my way back to the course. No way in hell was I going to let my stomach screw up this race. I crossed the last cut off point at mile 19, with 90 minutes to spare. I was juiced!

The next few miles felt like a roller coaster ride up and down a series of hills through the woods and then back on the gravel road. By now the little pebbles started to gnaw through my sneakers, sending a stinging pain through the bottom of my feet.

On mile 22, I encountered one of the most demanding hills on the whole course - Cedar Ridge Trail, which loops down and up for about a mile and half. The steep, rock strewn path ends at the turn around beside Crabtree Creek and an aid station, where I swig a final cup of Gatorade before tackling the ascent.

I’m back on Reddy Creek Trail and the long uphill I so vehemently despise, then one final push to the finish line at Camp Lapihio and I cross in 4 hours and 37 minutes. Same finish line, four years later. Pop would have been proud of me.

USEFUL INFORMATION:

William B. Umstead State Park – Raleigh, NC. Website:

Umstead 100-Mile Endurance Run – Race Director: Blake Norwood Website:
www.ncroadrunners.org/umstead

Umstead Trail Marathon: Website: www.carolinagodiva.org/umsteadmarathon

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justjen
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posted May-09-2005 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for justjen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Liz,
Keep me posted on your condition - and I'll keep you posted about VSH! ha! I start next week. I met Dr. Ruslander when I did my working interview - he was very nice to me.

Also, if you ever need any help taking care of your horse, let me know - I'm close and happy to help, I miss having a horse. Really, I mean it!

Jen

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pinkleather
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posted May-11-2005 03:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just wanted to say hi!,

I am trying hard to get back into this runnning thing again - I was up to about 12 miles/week before my wedding last year and haven't done anything since!

I'm building back up slowly on the tm and plan to get back outside again soon. Unfortunately, I live around the Crossroads area where there is loads of construction going on, so it will be hard to just run at the moment. I think I will have to drive somewhere to start with which I'm not looking forward to - the delay may kill the motivation!

Are there any other beginners around here?

Have fun!

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RunBobaluRun
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posted May-11-2005 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunBobaluRun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are only ten, fifteen if traffic is bad, minutes away from Umstead. Worth driving.

Bob

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swatkins
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posted May-15-2005 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swatkins   Click Here to Email swatkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any Raleigh runners doing a fall marathon? I'm getting ready to start training for the Chicago Marathon.

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Gottagetfaster
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posted May-16-2005 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gottagetfaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by swatkins:
Any Raleigh runners doing a fall marathon? I'm getting ready to start training for the Chicago Marathon.

I will be running Richmond again this year with the goal being to be my long run partner his BQ.

Good luck in Chicago - it is one of my future goal races.

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RunBobaluRun
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posted May-16-2005 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunBobaluRun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thinking about going back to Richmond also, but not sure yet. I want to run Grandfather Mountain marathon next summer. Richmond may be just a bit too much, but we will see. If I do Richmond, I may skip the Umstead Marathon.

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Gottagetfaster
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posted May-16-2005 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gottagetfaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunBobaluRun:
Thinking about going back to Richmond also, but not sure yet. I want to run Grandfather Mountain marathon next summer. Richmond may be just a bit too much, but we will see. If I do Richmond, I may skip the Umstead Marathon.

Running both Richmond and Umstead is doable because they are 4 months apart. You can even run Grandfather after Umstead. However, you would be a better man than I if you did.

Are you going to run the Inside Out 1/2 marathon this year or the 30k in Winston Salem?

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RunBobaluRun
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posted May-16-2005 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunBobaluRun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't know about the 30k in Winston-Salem? I'll have to look into that. I was going to run the Inside-Out Half. I'll let you know.

I was thinking of running the Umstead marathon as a warm-up to Grandfather--a long training session for Grandfather with Umstead thrown in the middle.

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Gottagetfaster
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posted May-17-2005 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gottagetfaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RunBobaluRun:
I didn't know about the 30k in Winston-Salem? I'll have to look into that. I was going to run the Inside-Out Half. I'll let you know.

I was thinking of running the Umstead marathon as a warm-up to Grandfather. Sort as a long training session for Grandfather with Umstead thrown in the middle.


I like the idea of using one of the hardest marathons around to warm-up for maybe the hardest marathon around.

Here is the link for the 30K in Winston-Salem. There is also a 10K. I have run the 30K for the past 3 years and I really enjoy the trail aspect of the race and the low key aspect. Plus, it is the only 30K race that I have ever heard of.

http://www.twincitytc.org/Races/SalemLake.asp

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cooldad
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posted May-27-2005 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cooldad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I''m running in Richmond in November. When is the I/O half? I ran last year and it inspired me to run a full marathon this spring. The W-S 30K look interesting too.

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Gottagetfaster
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posted May-27-2005 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gottagetfaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by cooldad:
I''m running in Richmond in November. When is the I/O half? I ran last year and it inspired me to run a full marathon this spring. The W-S 30K look interesting too.

I think the I/O half is October 23, 2005, which would put it 3 weeks before Richmond. That happened in 04 as well and I had to decide whether to make my last long run 4 or 2 weeks before Richmond if I wanted to run I/O 3 weeks before. I went with a 2 week taper and seemed to do OK.

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RunBobaluRun
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posted May-30-2005 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunBobaluRun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I also used the I/O Half as my last long run before Richmond. I think it is an excellent warm up before Richmond.

Bob

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cooldad
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posted May-30-2005 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cooldad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I went out early Saturday AM for a run on the American Tobacco Trail in western Wake County. What a great trail, nice screened surface, almost like running on packed sand - very forgiving to knees & hips. And hardly anyone out there. Very flat except for a couple of modest inclines. This is a nice trail. It takes a bit of effort to find, but well worth it.

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RunBobaluRun
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posted May-31-2005 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunBobaluRun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, the ATT is a lifesaver for long distance running. The surface changes depending on the amount of rain. After it rains the surface flattens out and becomes smooth. When the surface goes without rain for awhile, the surfaces gets a little sandy and lumpy due to horses hoofs. I learn to run in the tire tracks of the truck wake county runs up and down the trail for inspection.

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shortrun
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posted May-31-2005 01:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any Cumberland County (I live in Fayetteville) runners here? Or is this just for Raleigh, NC?

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RunBobaluRun
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posted Jun-08-2005 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunBobaluRun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you think of our ranking in Runner's World? I liked seeing Umstead listed in there, but didn't like the comment we don't have fast runners with time listed as 17:30 for 5k. We have many people with times in the 16s and 15s! Still many of us are actually racing even though our times don't make the elite status!

Bob

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jaysoffian
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posted Jun-10-2005 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jaysoffian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thought about running the Chicago. Actually, I wanted to run NYC this year but I accidentally missed the deadline. Marine Corps was 2nd choice after NYC but that's sold out. And not quite enough training time for Chicago for me. So anyway, looking for an end of October race I found this gem:

http://www.capecodmarathon.com/

I'll be training at Umstead, so I should be plenty ready for any hills.

BTW, I just moved to Raleigh last year but this year is the first I've run at Umstead. It was wonderful in the spring but the bugs in June, not much fun...

Anyway, if anyone else is training for a marathon end-of-October and wants some company at Umstead on long runs, I'll probably be running ~ 10-minute miles for those on Sunday mornings.

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pinkleather
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posted Jun-10-2005 12:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all,

Are any of you involved with any of the Raleigh area running clubs? Do you know if any are good with newbies?

Thanks

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tpetersen02
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posted Jun-10-2005 05:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know exactly how far it is around the Duke golf course trail? I know it's right around 3 miles, but I think it's a little less than that. I've been recording it as 2.8. Does anyone know?
Thanks!

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