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bitbit
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 posted Nov-22-2006 03:19 PM
  
JDF,
Glad your legs are recovered. The bloody/chaffed nipples are a common problem for men. A different shirt or bandaids will help. Good luck tomorrow at the Turkey Trot. I haven't decided if I am going to run yet. Run at the Rock sounds fun. There is a half marathon in Winston-Salem that day also. I am considering it. 
BrTr -
I don't know of any good sports docs in the area. Hoepfully someone else will have a suggestion.
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Nov-22-2006 03:31 PM
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JDF,
Glad your legs are recovered. The bloody/chaffed nipples are a common problem for men. A different shirt or bandaids will help. Good luck tomorrow at the Turkey Trot. I haven't decided if I am going to run yet. Run at the Rock sounds fun. There is a half marathon in Winston-Salem that day also. I am considering it.
BrTr -
I don't know of any good sports docs in the area. Hoepfully someone else will have a suggestion.
Yea when I was complaining to my wife about how much they hurt, she just said “Try Breast Feeding sometime!”. That shut me up real quick.
Try to make it for the Turkey trot tomorrow. They are saying that the wind will die down and it will clear up a bit. There should be a lot of people there. Normally this is a huge event but I am not sure what will happen since they decided to move it.
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greenehouse
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posted Nov-22-2006 04:22 PM
I signed up for that Run @ the Rock a few weeks back. Did it last year, and it was a good time. You'll enjoy it. Scenic, and fun. If you haven't done much single-track racing before, you're in for a (wild and wooly) treat. [ Also, needless to say, this one won't be one for the stroller. ]For your other issue, bandaids, or nipguards work wonders I've found. Especially when the weather is colder, remembering not to forget this addition before the long-run can be most helpful. One of the secondary goals of doing long-runs is to "work out the unexpected kinks" prior to race day, of which this one is an example. In general, where you've got any friction happening at all, expect some chafing over the long haul. [ Glide comes in handy for other places too, and hitting the long-runs will help you to learn where you need it ] Catch you tomorrow @ the Trot! [This message has been edited by greenehouse (edited Nov-22-2006).] [This message has been edited by greenehouse (edited Nov-22-2006).]
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rlemert
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posted Nov-22-2006 05:38 PM
Just for the record, the Inside Out Turkey Trot is not the only 8k in town tomorrow. The people at the Ridgewood Shopping Center apparently liked having a race there on Thanksgiving so much that when Inside Out Sports moved theirs, they created their own race. There are also 5k's in Goldsboro (probably won't affect either of these runs) and Wake Forest (may siphon off a few people). It will be interesting to see how many people go to each race. If it wasn't for the Grand Prix series, I'd be tempted to go to the Ridgewood Road race - it's closer to home and goes right by my son's middle school (Martin). I took a quick drive around the Cary course today after registering for the race (bib number 381 for anyone who's interested), and reminded myself why I don't like to do this. It always seems so much farther when you're driving it. The one thing I did like about it is that it's the opposite of the long run loop I run near my house in north Raleigh. Here, my house is on the high ground, so no matter which way I go I'm going downhill at the start when I'm nice and fresh, and uphill on my way back. Tomorrow we'll at least finish up on a mostly down-hill note.
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tyonkovich
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posted Nov-22-2006 06:03 PM
Hi everyone,If you don't mind, I'll be jumping in to check your hints about the area from now on... 
I live in Boston area, but will move to Raleigh on December 8th. It was a sudden nice life cahnge, because of DH's career.
My BIL lives in Fuquay-Varina and I've spent one Summer in the area, but was doing only short runs. Now, I am trainig long distance, so I'll have to find new courses, hopefuly with your help. Brook Trout - Sorry about your injury. I've read some of your posts about different things and I have the impression that you are a very smart runner. So, you'll get over it soon. I was reading about hip injury (I'm still trying to get mine diagnosed) in the Med Tent, and somebody from NC mentioned Dr. Hardaker at Duke University. You might want to check him out. I centainly will . Best of luck! TY
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swatkins
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posted Nov-22-2006 08:14 PM
I think I'm going to skip the Turkey Trot. The dr thinks I have a cracked disk at L3 from the marathon and although things have settled down, I really don't want to do anything to flare it up for the holiday weekend. Good luck racers!FWIW, I liked the Ridgewood race as well. It's closer and the neighborhood is pretty.
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Nov-23-2006 01:11 PM
Well that was an awesome event this morning. Personally I like the new course. The long down hills really helped with the stroller. The only thing that went wrong during the race was that there was a car accident! I was just getting ready to make the turn onto highhouse when I heard a loud BANG! It sounded like it was right behind me. It scared me so much I almost ran the stroller into the curb. I never saw what happened but I heard from some people that were a few feet back that a car or truck just blew a red light because they were watching the runners. That person nailed another car and both cars went careening across the road. I think one of the cars crossed right in front of some runners. Luckily none of the runners were hurt. Not sure about the car occupants though. By the sound of the impact it was very bad. After I shook that experience off I settled into a nice pace. I was at 19:00 flat for the first 3 miles and I hit the 4 mile mark in 25:37! I totally let the stroller control the pace on the down hills. That helped with my time a lot. In the end I finished with a 32:19. Since none of the speedsters showed up the winning time was only in the 27’s. I should crack the 800 point mark on this race. Anyway it was a great racing season and series. See you all at the 14 miler next week.------------------
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rlemert
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posted Nov-23-2006 03:19 PM
I'm glad you liked the new course, JDF, but it's not going to go onto my list of favorites. The nearly constant early climb took more out of me than I thought, and I just didn't have the 'legs' left to put on a strong finishing kick. I still PR'd by 3:30 at 48:02 (unofficial "chip" time - gun time was something like 48:28), but I could have done better. Unlike you, I think I'm done for the season. These races have screwed up my long-run schedule, and the constant "speed work" they provide is beginning to take a toll on me, I suspect. I'm going to switch to winter maintanance/strength building, but I look forward to seeing people again in the spring. I forgot about the accident until I saw your report. I was on the other side of it, but I must have been far enough back that I didn't hear it. The fire truck had just shown up when I passed the spot, and the car that must have done the ramming was in pretty sad shape. I'd say it's a good 6-12 inches shorter than it used to be. Didn't see the other car, though, nor any people that looked like they had been involved in the incident. I guess a couple of hundred people out for a refreshing high-speed stroll is an impressive sight to some <g>. Speaking of a couple of hundred people, I was impressed by the turnout they had. I wonder how many people showed up at the "old" course - and how many of those thought it was this race? Oh, and I saw someone who subjects himself to a potentially greater challenge than you do. Not the guy who was pushing a 3-kid stroller - but the guy who I think finished last. He had a baby in one of those chest-papoose rigs - which is why he finished so late. I think he walked most of the course to keep the ride from being too uncomfortable for the kid. Happy Thanksgiving, everyone.
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Nov-26-2006 08:37 PM
Well I was able to get in a long run today. I did 22 miles this morning. I just snuck in under 3 hours(2:57:49). I choose a course that was extremly hilly because I thought if I can do this course than I can do any course. My route basically took me down Cary Parkway to Inside out sports. Then I did the Inside out sports half marathon course. Let me say "I hate Weston parkway" that road is ridiculously hilly! I kept a pretty good pace going out(11 miles in 1:21:45) but I started to fade on the hills coming back. The down hills were really taking there toll on me. It seems that without the stroller I don't have anything to support my weight on the downhills. With the stroller you can pretty much just lean into it and let yourself fall down the hill. This definitely saves a lot of abuse on your legs. You pay for it with the stroller on the way back up though! Anyway I feel pretty good about this training run. I actually had something left over the last two miles. I am pretty confident that I will at least finish the marathon. However, I realize that the BQ is a long shot at best. I am still considering just trying to hang with the 3:15 group but I am not sure yet. I will use the 14 mile race as a test this weekend. If I can post a very good time there then I still might consider going for it. Based on my training times do you think I should go for it or play it safe and make sure I finish?Here is the course I ran.
URL for this route is: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=557121 ------------------
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brook trout
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posted Nov-27-2006 12:00 PM
Good job on the long run, JDF - you're nothing if not durable!I'm seeing a podiatrist this afternoon about that nagging foot problem. See, I've had this sore left foot for a couple of months now -it never gets worse, but it never gets better. I haven't run in 10 days due to the ITBS - I figured that 10 days without running should at least put a dent in the foot problem, too - but no. It's still the same. The pain's not bad at all, and it doesn't hurt when I'm running (or walking), but I worry that it's not going away, hence the appointment. My prediction is tendonitis of the peroneus tertius. Good news is that acute ITBS symptoms are gone. I was able to run for 30 minutes on grass yesterday (there's a big, flat open field at Blue Jay point, if anyone needs to rehab in this manner). Felt a little tightness in the ITB towards the end, so stopped. No soreness or residual problems. Iced, stretched, will run again tommorrow. ------------------
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brook trout
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posted Nov-27-2006 12:08 PM
Oh, in case you haven't heard, registration for the Umstead Marathon is open. Better hurry!bit - pix from the ridge-to-bridge are finally up. Check out this goober:  ...agony
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Nov-27-2006 01:02 PM
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Good job on the long run, JDF - you're nothing if not durable!I'm seeing a podiatrist this afternoon about that nagging foot problem. See, I've had this sore left foot for a couple of months now -it never gets worse, but it never gets better.
Thanks brook trout. I have a few things going for me that have helped me avoid injury. For one I have been blessed with a ridiclous metabolism that allows me to maintain a very low weight. That definitely makes a difference on those long pounding runs. I weighed myself before and after my long run yesterday. I lost 8 pounds in less than three hours! I am not sure how since I was staying hydrated and eating gels the whole time. Should I be concerned about that much weight loss after a long run? That was a 5% loss of my total body weight. I was able to gain 4 pounds back yesterday but I am still 3 pounds below my normal weight. I have had some minor injuries though. The arch of my foot started hurting on Saturday. I was concerned that I wouldn't be able to do my long run. I realized that there wasn't enough arch support in my new shoes so I took out the original soles and replaced them with the aftermarket soles I had in my old shoes. That made all of the diference. My foot didn't bother me a bit on the long run. All of the running that I did this weekend(40 miles in 4 days) did start to take its toll. I felt fatigued in the latter stages of the long run. I think I am just going to take it easy for a few days and see how much of my energy comes back for the 14 miler. I don't really have enough time to do a proper taper so that might be my downfall in the marathon. ------------------
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Nov-27-2006 02:09 PM
Travis, consider custom inserts shaped to your feet. These will help greatly. Start doing arch stretches and take care to no walk barefoot. Travis, your running is extremely impressive. Your ability to race and do the marathon training is unbelievable.Swatkins, very sorry to here about your injury. Very dangerous as you know, so I wish you are speedy recovery. Are you going to do pool work or bike? Brook, nice pics. Nice finish--good job. How is your recovery? Last week I felt pain in my PF while running on Turkey day, so I decided to concentrate on swimming and biking. I will get back to running Wednesday--I might even do some sprint workouts. I'm officially on a stay-away-from-junk-food-diet. Bob ------------------
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bonesheal
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posted Nov-27-2006 04:19 PM
Thanks for pointing me to this thread, brook trout. I think I may once have been aware of it, but I don't want to check through 40 pages to see if I've introduced myself. I live up near Wake Forest, and race infrequently. I'm signed up for the Umstead Trail Marathon, so I think I'll be spending a lot of Saturday or Sunday mornings there doing my long runs. ------------------
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swatkins
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posted Nov-27-2006 04:49 PM
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Swatkins, very sorry to here about your injury. Very dangerous as you know, so I wish you are speedy recovery. Are you going to do pool work or bike?Bob [/B]
I ran for the first time 5 days after the marathon, started hurting after about 1/4 mile and had a flare up for 2 days. I tried again this weekend, I didn't hurt until 1 1/2 miles and only flared for a day, so I'm making progress. I have just been walking and doing upper body work and stretching. I'm going to the gym this evening and will try either the elliptical or the bike, whichever seems less tedious. I still have some back stiffness and by the end of the day I get some pain in the inner thigh but I am hopeful that with time it will get better. I'm just glad it happened at the end of the season and not the beginning.
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bitbit
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posted Nov-27-2006 08:33 PM
JDF -
Good job on the long run! It will be easier to pick a goal pace after the race this weekend. It's normal to lose some weight during a long run. A lot of it is water weight. But make sure you are rehydrating/refueling. You have upped your miles a lot in the last few weeks, so hopefully you are eating more.
BrookTrout -
Let us know what the doc said! The marathon pics have been up for a while. They did a good job with the pictures. David, the RD, is so tall. I look so short compared to him! (Well, I am short, but still...)
I registered for Umstead too. Bonesheal - Welcome! swatkins - Glad you are making progess with the healing!
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thefish
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posted Nov-27-2006 10:28 PM
Hey silverbells- I'm a chapel hellion myself and I know you can usually run on the UNC track, especially around lunch time but I think it is open most evenings too. You can't really park during the day, (there are some metered spots near the track) but after 5 you can park near south road or on stadium drive and it's right there (it goes around the soccer field, right between carmichael auditorium and carmichael dorm) If you can stand 8 lanes of rubberized light blue you will be fine.
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Nov-27-2006 10:59 PM
I finally found the results for the two Thanksgiving day 8K races. Apparently they did have the ridgewood race like Rlemert said. It looks like a lot of people ran it also. I wonder if anyone thought that the ridgewood race was part of the 2nd empire series since it was last year? That would stink to post a great time at the wrong race!Anyway, it looks like the people who showed up to the correct Cary Turkey Trot will be rewarded with a lot of points towards the series. It appears that some poeple who were set to receive an award may miss out because they skipped the last race. Oh well it has been a great series. Congrats to everyone who placed. ridgewood race
http://www.queencitytiming.com/2006_results/triangle_turkey_trot_8k.htm Cary Race
http://www.queencitytiming.com/2006_results/insideout_sports_thanksgiving.htm ------------------
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brook trout
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posted Nov-28-2006 12:10 AM
ok - doctor report:I have some indeterminant tendonitis/ligament/muscle inflammation in the fleshy mush behind the protuberance of the firth metatarsal. Nothing I didn't know. X-Rays looked good - no avulsions, stress fractures, etc. Doc thinks I have very tight achilles tendon and calves which has led to a pronounced forefoot foot strike and overponation (the combination of which has contributed to my nifty Lou Ferrigno calves, which probably cost me about a minute on my 5k time!). Basically, he thinks this puts too much stress on the outside of the foot, and with my recent marathoning adventures, I've just gone too far. He thinks that if I can stretch out the back of my lower leg (muscles, achilles), it will lead to more natural pronation, and less stress on the outside of my foot. It might also allow my calves to finally atrophe some. He also wants me off the trails for a while (bah!). I'm guessing bridal paths and rail trails are exempt. Oh, and stay away from 20 mile runs and downhill mountain marathons. He gave me some night splints to wear to stretch out the achilles tendon and calves, but they hurt like hell to wear so I've only been able to wear them for an hour at a time. I'm also going to stretch the calves and tendons religously. When I get back to running, I'll be in stability shoes - no more nuetral lightweight trainers. He also recommended orthodics, but I dunno about that. I think it's the 20 milers and the neutral shoes that did me in (I had been in stability shoes before, but decided that I didn't need them anymore. He recommends no running for three weeks if I want the inflammation to go away as fast as possible, so I'm doing that. I have a follow up in three weeks which I can cancel if the soreness is gone. I've thought about cross training, but I'm enjoying my new, sedentary lifestyle and I think I'm content to just let myself detrain. It'll give me something to do this winter - get back into shape! ------------------
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Nov-28-2006 10:32 AM
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ok - doctor report:I have some indeterminant tendonitis/ligament/muscle inflammation in the fleshy mush behind the protuberance of the firth metatarsal. Nothing I didn't know. X-Rays looked good - no avulsions, stress fractures, etc. He recommends no running for three weeks if I want the inflammation to go away as fast as possible, so I'm doing that. I have a follow up in three weeks which I can cancel if the soreness is gone. I've thought about cross training, but I'm enjoying my new, sedentary lifestyle and I think I'm content to just let myself detrain. It'll give me something to do this winter - get back into shape!
Brook, Sorry to hear about your injury. I hope you are able to get back out on the trails soon. I was surprised to hear that you are shutting it down for awhile. Is there not any cross training you are interested in? Do you do any weight lifting? Heck I would like to see if you actually can turn “Green” after lifting. I know those calves aren’t great for running but you look pretty ripped to me. I hope to see you back at the races soon!
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rlemert
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posted Nov-28-2006 11:18 AM
I'm glad you found the Turkey Trot results, JDF, because I hadn't been able to. Thanks. Just for grins, I checked in my age group to 1) see how I wound up in the standings, and 2) see if anyone lost potential points by running the wrong race. For my age group, at least, everyone that was in the Grand Prix ran the correct race. And, as I expected, three of the people "behind" me in points - but had only run three of the four previous races - showed up at this one and "jumped" over me. It looks like I'll finish #12 again, but I'm closing in on the top ten. My calculations put me only three points out of 11th position, and only 92 out of 10th. (Now just watch all the turtles go up into the next age group next year, and I get to compete with a bunch of new 'young' hot-shots <g>.) I'm considering the Myrtle Beach half-marathon in February for my next race (still have to earn the right to do a full marathon). Anyone have any feedback on the race - or on what there is to do in the area that time of year that would appeal to a 12 year old boy?
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brook trout
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posted Nov-28-2006 11:30 AM
JDF -No, I don;t do any weight lifting and haven't in over 15 years. I'm just one of those unfortuneate (or fortuneate, depending on how you look at it) that gains muscle just by looking at a barbell. I have to be the only person who's gained shoulder muscle mass due to running. I would be a much better strength athlete than a runner, but for some reason, I really love running, even the competetive aspect of it, even though I'm not physiucally well suited for endurance sports. I'm not doing any x-trianing because I'm not concerned about the loss of running conditioning. When I first started running, gains came very quickly (and I was starting from a very low level of fitness) and I'm assuming that they will come quickly again, when I resume. I'm also focusing on weight loss right now, so doing any sort of hard core training while limiting my nutrition would be hard on my health. ------------------
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lesil22
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posted Nov-28-2006 11:41 AM
It looks like we have some injuries out there. I haven't posted here in awhile (working 2 jobs and training takes up lots of time). Anyway, I ran the OBX half marathon. It was great, even with the rain. After the race I had some pain in my foot that still hasn't gone away. I guess I should go see a Dr. (although I hate them). Any good ones in the area that ya'll recommend? You can email them to me lesil22@hotmail.com.
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Nov-28-2006 12:30 PM
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JDF -No, I don;t do any weight lifting and haven't in over 15 years. I'm just one of those unfortuneate (or fortuneate, depending on how you look at it) that gains muscle just by looking at a barbell. I have to be the only person who's gained shoulder muscle mass due to running.
Well actually, a few of my friends remarked that it looked like I had been lifting after they saw a picture of me running this fall. I haven’t lifted a single weight in several years because unlike you I am not built for the strength sports at all. I think that I did build some muscle mass just pushing the double jogger up those hills on Cary parkway though. My arms and shoulders often felt sore after particularly steep runs. Maybe you should consider breaking out the jogging stroller? It definitely takes a lot of the pounding out of running and your strength would definitely benefit you with the stroller. I know your kids are older but what fun would it be if it wasn’t a challenge? Just a thought? ------------------
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Nov-29-2006 05:57 PM
Brook: glad to hear you have got the problem pinpointed. Best luck on your coach potato situation.Swatkins, as my Doctor says, "If it hurts don't do it." Be careful. Today I decided I would run a tempo 5k on the ATT. My PR for a 5k on the ATT is 23:51 (my road PR is 22:48). The ATT has me running about 20-30 seconds slower per mile than the road. I didn't want to run 100%, but something like a 90%+ effort. I was very impressed when I found that my time per 1/2 mile didn't falter much. Finished with a 25:18. So I'm happy that my fitness level for running is in that good a shape. Probally swim tomorrow. Got to let the PF heal from today. Bob ------------------
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