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brook trout
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 posted Nov-17-2006 10:47 AM
   
Thanks JDF,It's simple ITBS - no need to see a doctor, I know what it is. Not surprsingly, it's my left leg - the one that was on the downhill portion side of the camber (the road had an unusually steep camber). My plan is to take 7-10 days off completely, ice and ibuprofen, then start back in with 30 minute jogs every other day and build from there. The good news is, I'll be running more (short) races once I'm healed, because I think I'm giving up any spring marathon aspirations. I can't stand not running, and marathons are just too risk for me, right now. I'm going to focus on diet and weight loss while I build back. 170 pounds is just too much for my 5 1/2 foot frame. It was hard to diet while running so much (I was worried about the ability to recover with restricted calories), so now that I'm forced to cut way back, I'll take a stab at losing those last 15-20 pounds. ------------------
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Nov-17-2006 11:56 AM
Brook, very sorry to here about your injury. Do take it easy and allow yourself to heal properly.My goals were to run Umstead and Grandfather Mountain marathon and PR on 5k, 10k and the half. I got Umstead done and had a PR in the 10k at 48:36, but then I was injuried and had a very sore PF. Now my goal is to heal 100%, get back into 5k shape, and run my first triathlon this spring. And have fun training and doing it! Bob ------------------
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Nov-17-2006 04:00 PM
Here is the map of the Turkey Trot for tommorrow. The elevations don't work everywhere but it is close enough.http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=547115 ------------------
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weeleeto
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posted Nov-17-2006 05:43 PM
Hey Brook, I’m sorry to hear about your injury. I went through a similar issue 8 months ago when I was training for my first marathon. At the peak of my training (about 50 mpw), my right knee started to really bother me. I could barely walk downstairs; I would try to go out for a run and a mile or 2 into the run had to stop and walk home. I was so upset and considered not running the marathon especially the marathon was only 6 weeks away. I took a week off and followed the RICE method. I would elevate my knee, ice it every 3-4 hours, take ibuprofen, bought a knee strap at Dick’s, would wear it at home. I also started doing the stretching described in this site: http://www.rice.edu/~jenky/sports/itband.html. Also followed some of the advice on the following sites: http://www.sportsinjurybulletin.com/archive/runners-knee.html and http://www.itbs.info/. I started to feel much better. When I resumed running, I wore my knee strap and started running at a slower pace. I was able to get a 20 miler 3 weeks before my marathon. BTW, I’m not build like a runner (5’7 - 177. I was 187 when I had my knee problem) so maybe that had something to do with it. That’s why I’m also trying to lose some 15-20 pounds.
I can’t make it to tomorrow’s Turkey Trot – Good luck to everyone racing this weekend!
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bitbit
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posted Nov-17-2006 06:16 PM
Yay, we are chatty. I'm going to start checking the thread everyday! JDF - The six marathons I have done this year : Mercedes, Umstead, Boogie, Grandfather Mountain, Ridge to Bridge, and Richmond. (All close to home except Mercedes, but I was in 'Bama for a wedding, so I ran it!) Plans for next year - To run some bigger marathon, including Boston. And to hopefully PR in the marathon. I need to following an actual training schedule to do this. "Just running" isn't going to cut it. Good advice from Greenhouse on the marathon pacing! And I have never had a problem running/racing in brand new shoes. You should be fine! BrookTrout - I'm so sorry you are injured! The camber was rough. My left calf ached for a week! Thankfully, it felt fine for
Richmond last weekend.
I was tempted to race this weekend, since my legs feel soo good. But I decided to skip it. Need to catch up on some stuff at home!
Good luck to everyone who is racing though!
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swatkins
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posted Nov-18-2006 12:08 PM
Brooktrout, I feel your pain. I ran the OBX Marathon last weekend and injured my back about 14 miles into it. I started getting spasms across my low back then got shooting pain down the inside of my thigh to my knee. At about mile 15 I decided to DNF. I realized then there was no sag wagon and it was pouring rain. So I decided to run another mile and see how it went. As long as I ran really slowly with a shortened stride length it didn't get any worse so at the end of that mile I decided to run another and see how that went. It didn't get any worse (other than my thigh getting a little numb) so I kept on. The funny thing is I was so worried about not having enough endurance and that ended up not being an issue at all. Constitutionally I felt good throughout, I was clear-headed and never felt sick. I finished, although it was my second worst time ever. I tried to run for the first time today (3 miles) and within about 1/4 mile I started having the same problem. Unfortunately I can't take anti-inflammatories of any sort (I'm one of those people who reacts badly to almost all medications). So I've been alternating ice and heat and doing gentle stretching exercises and hoping that tincture of time will do its job.
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Nov-18-2006 09:16 PM
Well I ran the Turkey Trot with Jason today. It was too cold for my daughter so I left her at home. The weather was a little cold but nearly perfect for a run. There were a lot of people who showed up but it looks like almost everyone from the message board decided to sit this one out. That is a shame. It was a good race. I started out up front because it was so crowded. I had a good first mile(5:45) and I was feeling good so I tried to hold about a 6:20 pace. The only real hills are on the last mile so I slowed down a bit there. However, I felt like I had a pretty good race. I finished very strongly with a 19:25 with the single stroller. That was good enough for 2nd in my age group and I was in the top 25 so I got a free Raleigh Running Hat along with a really cool Turkey trophy. I gave the trophy to Jason who slept the whole way and kept the hat for myself. Overall it was a very fun race. Wish you all could have been there.I have my first long run in the morning. I just got finished mapping out the 20 mile course. I feel really strong so I think I should be able to do it. I will take it very easy until mile 12. Then I will try to pick it up just a little for the 5 miles of the Thanksgiving day Turkey trot. I just want to see how that course will be. I will make sure I don’t over do it though. I have new shoes and they are terrific. I think the shoes shaved off about 15 seconds alone on my 5k today. The last pair I had felt like concrete blocks compared to these. Wish me luck! See you guys on Thursday! Here is the first 11.5 miles of my route. http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=548791
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Nov-19-2006 09:20 AM
Well I did my run this morning. It went fairly well. I started off at 5:23 AM. Getting up that early hurt almost more than the run. I kept a pretty even pace through the first 8 miles. I hit the 8 mile mark in 59:29 and I felt great at that point. I took one of those gels that I actually liked and it really gave me a good pick me up. I hit the 10 mile mark at 1:15:09 and I started to feel like I could pick it up a little. By the half marathon mark I was at 1:37:12 and I had picked up the pace considerably. I felt great by the time I finished the Turkey trot course at mile 16.5 in about (36:50) which put me at 2:02:33 total so I headed back home. I was actually running pretty well on the home stretch. I felt good and I made to the 18 mile mark. Then it hit me. I had to go to the bathroom, right now. I stopped for a few minutes at the 2:15 mark. When I tried to start running again my legs started to cramp. Then my wife drove by in the minivan on her way back from a Dunkin Donuts trip. I decided to shut it down and get a lift back instead of running the last two miles. I never do well when I stop and then try to start again. I figured I had run close enough to what I needed. I was a little dissapointed that I did not finish the whole course I had laid out but I guess it is better to come up a little short on a training run than to Bonk on race day. Anyway, I feel great now and I can't way for the 8K Turkey Trot.------------------
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Nov-19-2006 12:34 PM
I wish I had my wife pick me up towards the end of some of my 20 miles training runs. Extra bonus: Dunkin Donuts! Congratulations for a great 5k!Swatkins, sorry to here about your back. OBX must have been a bear in the rain! Well I have been gaining weight. So I have got to get my eating under control--especially since I have cut way back on my running. I did have a good 5k run yesterday. I actually put some speed into the run for a change. 33 miles on the bike today. My plan this winter is to mix running with biking or swimming on the same day. Run 3-6 miles in the morning and bike or swim at lunch. Bob ------------------
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weeleeto
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posted Nov-19-2006 06:06 PM
JDF, awesome job on the turkey trot – way to achieve your first goal of the year  Nice run this morning, based on that pace and they way you felt you should achieve your BQ goal this year. I’m surprised I didn’t see you this morning, then again you probably just flew by me and I didn’t see you . I went for a 24 mile run this morning at 6 am, ran along Cary parkway, then over to Weston parkway, Umstead Park, North Harrison, Killdaire and then home. The first 5 miles and the last 5 miles I did at marathon pace (8:40), the very last mile I ran at 7:45 and felt great. I’m taking tomorrow off having just finished a 72 mile week – my highest ever. My marathon is in 3 weeks – taper time! I’ll see you at the 8K Turkey Trot.
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SilverBells
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posted Nov-19-2006 06:21 PM
From Carrboro here....Just a question. I'm recovering from injury and want to get off a treadmill for a while. Are there any tracks that are the rubberized ones that I can run on in the triangle? I'm been running on a gravel track, but...that seems to be aggraating the injury.
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Nov-19-2006 09:40 PM
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JDF, awesome job on the turkey trot – way to achieve your first goal of the year
Actually my goal was a sub 19. I missed it by about 25 seconds. However, I think the course was a little long(maybe 50 yards). Anyway I had a good run so I feel good about it. Man it sounds like you had a good run. 24 is a long way! I started out a little earlier than you and I didn't go down Cary Parkway the whole way so I can see how we missed each other. We should try to get a run in together sometime. Which Marathon are you training for?
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posted Nov-19-2006 09:46 PM
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From Carrboro here....Just a question. I'm recovering from injury and want to get off a treadmill for a while. Are there any tracks that are the rubberized ones that I can run on in the triangle? I'm been running on a gravel track, but...that seems to be aggraating the injury.
Cary Academy High School has an awesome rubber track and they leave it unlocked most of the time, which none of the public Wake County High Schools allow. I've done a couple track workouts with some running friends out there and would still be out there if i weren't sidelined by an injury. The only other rubber track I knew of was NC State's but that just got torn up for construction. If you are coming from Carrboro, take I-40 to cary exit 289, which is Harrison Rd. Left would take you to umstead, but go right about a mile to a mile and a half and turn left at about the 5th light, just after weston pkwy. You will see a white church at the light you turn at. Take a right at the back field entrance about a tenth of a mile down the road and the track will be on your left, its kind of tucked away. Good luck with your recovery! I hope to be out there soon too.
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greenehouse
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posted Nov-19-2006 10:13 PM
JDF,Good work for that first long-run. One test will be how you feel/recover in the next couple days. If you're feeling good for some easy miles in the next day or so, that's a good sign. Though, I would say don't get discouraged if it takes a little while to feel 100%. Good work in the Apex Turkey Trot 5K also. Man, if I would have known they were giving out turkey trophies, I might would have had to try to make that one for sure! (Maybe next year...) I'm going to try to make the Inside Out Trot on Thursday. I know that course has some hills - off hand, how would you say that course compares to the Patrol Stroll (w.r.t. difficulty?) Finally, to answer your earlier query: >> Greenehouse,
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>> By the way what is your PR in the Marathon, if you
>> don’t mind me asking? You said you were able to BQ
>> on your first marathon. That sounds like a pretty good
>> accomplishment.
>> For Myrtle Beach this past February (my first), I managed to sneak in under the wire (3:19 and change), with 3:20 the requirement for my age group. [ Technically, 3:20:59 is the requirement, so I had perhaps 1.5 minutes to spare ] I was able to improve upon that time in my next go of it (last month), getting a new PR: 3:05:31. With any luck (and some hard work no doubt), I hope to try and improve upon that a bit in April, if it's in the cards. Hope to see you (and others) on Thursday!
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Nov-20-2006 07:56 AM
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JDF,Good work for that first long-run. One test will be how you feel/recover in the next couple days. If you're feeling good for some easy miles in the next day or so, that's a good sign. Though, I would say don't get discouraged if it takes a little while to feel 100%. Good work in the Apex Turkey Trot 5K also. Man, if I would have known they were giving out turkey trophies, I might would have had to try to make that one for sure! (Maybe next year...) I'm going to try to make the Inside Out Trot on Thursday. I know that course has some hills - off hand, how would you say that course compares to the Patrol Stroll (w.r.t. difficulty?) Finally, to answer your earlier query: >> Greenehouse,
>> [...]
>> By the way what is your PR in the Marathon, if you
>> don’t mind me asking? You said you were able to BQ
>> on your first marathon. That sounds like a pretty good
>> accomplishment.
>> For Myrtle Beach this past February (my first), I managed to sneak in under the wire (3:19 and change), with 3:20 the requirement for my age group. [ Technically, 3:20:59 is the requirement, so I had perhaps 1.5 minutes to spare ] I was able to improve upon that time in my next go of it (last month), getting a new PR: 3:05:31. With any luck (and some hard work no doubt), I hope to try and improve upon that a bit in April, if it's in the cards. Hope to see you (and others) on Thursday!
As far as recovery from yesterday. I actually feel great. I was sore yesterday in my quads because the course I laid out was very hilly. However, I feel pretty good today. I definitely won't run today but I might run tommorrow(Maybe just 3 miles). I want to be ready for the Turkey trot so I might take it easy this week. I ramped my mileage from 25 to 40 in one week. Yes I know that is dangerous and I am totally putting myself at risk but I don't really have another option. Yea the Turkey Trot was a fun event. I am definitely marking this one for my calendar next year. The Inside Out Turkey Trot is not as hilly as the Patrol Strol. That one was almost totally either up or down hill. This one is totally flat for about .75 miles. Then it hits a short steep uphill. Then a nice long downhill(I plan on Making up some time here. Look out for the yellow rocket). Then one long steep uphill. Once you get past that it is very flat or downhill for 2 miles. Then one last medium uphill and then a great downhill finish. This is a very fast course if you like to run fast down the hills. The down hills are steep and long. For the stroller that is great because it will just drag me down the hill. It might rain though so I am still not sure if I will run with it. Nice job on those Marathons. It sounds like you are running quite well right now. I have to get a 3:10:59 to BQ. That will be a tough one for my first race. ------------------
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Nov-20-2006 10:07 AM
I talked with my wife’s Uncle yesterday. He used to run Cross Country for Florida and William and Mary. Now I knew he was fast but he never would say how fast he really was until yesterday. He told me a story about how he was running a marathon in Alabama on a really dry day. He said that he never was able to drink or eat ANYTHING while he ran so he would basically just go without. He said that he hit the 24 mile mark and he was so dehydrated he just felt apart and as he phrased it “Completely fell off the pace”. He said that he ended up finishing in 2:22:00. He was at 1:54:00 when he hit the 22 mile mark! That is nuts. I couldn’t imagine doing a marathon without taking anything including water. Never mind the fact that he was doing almost 5 minute miles. I tried to look him up but I couldn’t find anything from when he was younger. He is 50 now so this must have been in the 70’s.
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weeleeto
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posted Nov-20-2006 02:13 PM
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Actually my goal was a sub 19. I missed it by about 25 seconds. However, I think the course was a little long(maybe 50 yards). Anyway I had a good run so I feel good about it.Man it sounds like you had a good run. 24 is a long way! I started out a little earlier than you and I didn't go down Cary Parkway the whole way so I can see how we missed each other. We should try to get a run in together sometime. Which Marathon are you training for?
Sorry about that, I misread your earlier post. I guess I was still woozy from my 24 miler. Sure, we should get together, maybe next week after Thanksgiving. I’m running the Kiawah Marathon down in South Carolina.
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posted Nov-21-2006 04:13 PM
So what neighborhood has the most posts in a single thread? Which one has the most posts overall?Most posts in a single thread – Montreal = 1293. The thread is closed though. It looks like they open a new thread everytime they reach 500 posts. Maybe that isn’t such a bad idea after all? http://www.coolrunning.com/cgi-bin/ubb/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&number=10&forum=The+Neighborhood&DaysPrune=1000&startpoint=960 Most overall – Montreal again. They have more than 5 threads with more than 500 posts each. We have a long way to go to catch them.
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Nov-21-2006 05:31 PM
Well I tryed something new Monday. I biked to the Wake American Tobacco Trail, ran 3.3 miles, and biked back home. The bike back home was a bit slow, but a good experience overall. I only live 4.5 miles from the trail. I plan on doing this some more.Well, I almost skipped working out today, but snuck in a somewhat fast run this morning before the rain started. Tomorrow, swimming--to wet outside. Bob ------------------
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bitbit
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posted Nov-21-2006 07:32 PM
JDF,Great job on the 18 miles! You were probably better off doing 18 anyway. And you still have time to do another long run before the marathon. How are your legs today? Bob,
Great job on 3.3 miles! I bet it feels good to be back! The ATT is a fantastic place to run!
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Nov-22-2006 09:08 AM
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JDF,Great job on the 18 miles! You were probably better off doing 18 anyway. And you still have time to do another long run before the marathon. How are your legs today? Bob,
Great job on 3.3 miles! I bet it feels good to be back! The ATT is a fantastic place to run!
Thanks, I am actually back to 100% today. I have no soreness at all in my legs. My chest on the other hand is a different story. It seems that the shirt I was wearing caused some pretty severe chaffing on my chest in two sensitive spots(You get the picture right?). It was so bad that when I stopped I noticed I was bleeding in those two spots. Needless to say I now have to wear two large patches on long runs until those wounds heal. Has anyone else had this problem before?
I didn’t run at all yesterday because my wife wanted to get in a run before the rain hit. I watched the kids while she got in a quick couple of miles. I was going to do a quick few miles today but it is just way too nasty out there. You have to be pretty committed to run today. I am just going to save it for the Turkey trot tomorrow. I am still undecided if I will run with the stroller. It really isn’t safe to run with it in high winds. If it is too windy then I will just see what I can do on my own. Good luck to everyone at the Turkey trot tomorrow.
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brook trout
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posted Nov-22-2006 09:09 AM
Can anyone recommend a good sports doc in the triangle? Since I'm laying low with ITBS, I figure I should get this nagging foot soreness checked, and maybe there's even something they can do for the ITBS, who knows.------------------
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Nov-22-2006 10:09 AM
Ok so who wants to run a 14 mile trail run on December 2nd? This will be my final race before the marathon so I want to just set a pace and try to stick with it. Anyone want to run it with me? It is the run at the rock trail run in Burlington. I think there are still some spots open if anyone wants to sign up. I will probably sign up tonight if anyone wants to join me.Burlington Run at the Rock on runnc.com
http://www.runnc.com/exec/young/schedule.cfm?publicationID=283#rock http://www.runattherock.com/
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Nov-22-2006 11:18 AM
Travis, you faced a commen problem. I where shirts that either are tight and don't move or are very soft and don't scratch. Cotten shirts are the worse and will slowly rub you raw. Some men use bandaids or some other product to protect the nipples, but you may be happier with a new shirt. If you google this problem, you will see a large amount of answers to this.Off to the pool for thirty laps. Bob ------------------
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Nov-22-2006 12:26 PM
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Travis, you faced a commen problem. I where shirts that either are tight and don't move or are very soft and don't scratch. Cotten shirts are the worse and will slowly rub you raw. Some men use bandaids or some other product to protect the nipples, but you may be happier with a new shirt. If you google this problem, you will see a large amount of answers to this.Off to the pool for thirty laps. Bob
Cool thanks for the advice. I was wearing a loose shirt with a bit of a pattern woven in it. I didn't realize what was happening until I saw the blood. Can we say ouch! I guess I will just keep the patches on while I run. That seems to help.
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