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RunBobaluRun
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 posted Feb-07-2005 05:07 PM
  
Thanks Gottagetfaster. The map shows they have added some two non-bridle trails. One is early and the other is about at the half-way point. We should be fresh enough to dodge those roots!I have one more week before tapering. I am going to make the best of it. I will try to get in over 50 miles which includes a 20 miler Sunday or Monday. I plan on running two runs a week in Umstead that include those non-bridle trails, so I can feel more comfortable with what we are about to face. I am getting excited as March 5th approaches. This will be my last marathon for the year. I plan on going in Cary road race 5k, Run the for the Bulls 10k this summer and 1/2 Umstead marathon this fall. The stress of the marathon training is too much with out a break. I miss the speed work. My plan is to do Grandfather mountain marathon in the summer of 2006. Hope to see you there. ------------------
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docpepper
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posted Feb-07-2005 05:53 PM
Hey all:I'm a Chapel Hill runner registered for the inaugural Knoxville Marathon (www.knoxvillemarathon.com) on March 20th (my second, after doing Richmond last fall). It's quite scenic and challenging (plenty of hills, though not terrible); I lived there during/after grad school from 73 to 77. So if you've been training and haven't yet made plans, you might consider it because some spaces are still available.
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Gottagetfaster
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posted Feb-08-2005 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by RunBobaluRun:
I plan on running two runs a week in Umstead that include those non-bridle trails, so I can feel more comfortable with what we are about to face.
I ran the Sycomore trail this past weekend and discovered it is pretty darn hilly. The last portion of the trail seemed to be straight up! At one point I was grabing trees to help get up. After seeing this trail, I am thinking that it might not be a very good idea to have any specific time goals!
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Feb-08-2005 06:06 PM
I ran the Company Mill Trail today. This trail is run near the beginning of the marathon, and it too was very hilly. The trail twist and turns and rarely is level. You seem to always being going up or down. When your going down you have to be extremely careful with the numerous roots and rocks that are there to twist your angle. We are on this trail for 1.5 miles. Plan on taking this one slow, and note there is little to no room to pass, but if your behind my fat butt and want to pass, just let me know and I'll be glad to step to the side!When I ran it today, I put in a 5k pace effort and was only able to get a 10 minute/mile! I plan on running the Company Mill Trail a few times more, and I will include the Sycamore Trail also. Thanks for the heads up on the difficulty. Also a warning for the Cedar Ridge Trail. This trail turns into a single file trail about a mile into the trail and tends to be muddy in spots with a few steep hills--making the footing a little dangerous since this is run near the end of the marathon. Well when I signed up I wanted a challege--I would say I got one! ------------------
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swatkins
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posted Feb-08-2005 08:56 PM
The Company Mill Trail isn't too bad if you run it counter-clockwise. Personally, I think Umstead is uphill every direction. Has anyone run the Turkey Creek trail? I tried to run it this weekend but I couldn't find the trail.
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Gottagetfaster
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posted Feb-09-2005 08:34 AM
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The Company Mill Trail isn't too bad if you run it counter-clockwise. Personally, I think Umstead is uphill every direction. Has anyone run the Turkey Creek trail? I tried to run it this weekend but I couldn't find the trail.
I have run the Turkey Creek trail several times. It connects to bridal trail near the Sycamore trail, but it ends at Ebenezer Church Road on the other end. You then run along Ebenezer for a bit - but there is a huge shoulder where the have recently moved Ebenezer so there is basically a trial beside the road. It seems to be the toughest section of bridal trial in the park, in my opinion.
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Feb-11-2005 05:32 PM
Well I had the chance to run Company Mill Trail and Sycamore trail today. I see your point about Sycamore's long hill at the end. I have to vote Company Mill Trail as the most difficult--though I was able to run the trail faster today with less effort.I ran eight and half miles in Umstead at a marathon pace and was able to go under 10min/mile pace--great! I run twenty in Umstead Monday afternoon and will try to put a 10:30min/mile pace together. This will be the last super long run before the race. I hope to be ready to finish around 4:20, but I realize much depends on how I feel race day. ------------------
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Gottagetfaster
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posted Feb-14-2005 09:56 AM
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Originally posted by RunBobaluRun:
Well I had the chance to run Company Mill Trail and Sycamore trail today. I see your point about Sycamore's long hill at the end. I have to vote Company Mill Trail as the most difficult--though I was able to run the trail faster today with less effort.I ran eight and half miles in Umstead at a marathon pace and was able to go under 10min/mile pace--great! I run twenty in Umstead Monday afternoon and will try to put a 10:30min/mile pace together. This will be the last super long run before the race. I hope to be ready to finish around 4:20, but I realize much depends on how I feel race day.
Good luck with your last long run. I ran my last one on Saturday. I will run 14 this weekend in Umstead and I will try out the Company Mill trail. I am not really looking forward to it if it is much tougher than the Sycamore trail.
Good luck in a few weeks.
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lesil22
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posted Feb-14-2005 12:45 PM
hey everyone! good luck at umstead!!! i will be in raleigh for Easter and my family wants to see me race. anyone nkow of anything that Sat. 26th? i did see one in durham at the ball park (durahm bulls) but i can't find any other infotmation. it just has you go to active.com and i didn't find anything there. anyone know anything?
thanks, leslie
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Feb-15-2005 09:22 AM
lesil22, there is a race about 2 and half hours away from Raleigh in Chinia Grove. I got the details from ncroadraunners.org26
Landis Aint Hogs Great 5K 9am - $17 by 2/21, after $20. Info: David Freeze, 3065 Weaver Rd., China Grove, NC 28023 (704) 857-4035 (d), 857-3036 (n) dlfreeze@salisbury.net China Grove is off Hwy. 64 south of Lexington. ------------------
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Feb-15-2005 09:42 AM
Well I ran my twenty, opps, I ran my nineteen and walked one mile. First, I was amazed at the North Turkey Creek Trail---a beautiful, well maintained trail that is very hilly--the steepest hills in the park! Second, not wanting to carry my Gatorade very far, I left it at the Reedy Creek Lake area while I ran the loop shown in the marathon map. Third, I wore myself out the day before raking and seeding with not much to eat. These collided in a tougher than normal run--I was dehydrated and starved miles before the finish. I was very disappointed with my performance. I kept dreaming of eating a Snickers bar at the end of my run!I will try to run my next long run, around 14 miles, in Umstead also. Good luck to all. ------------------
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lesil22
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posted Feb-16-2005 12:36 PM
thanks runbobularun! are you running that race? leslie
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Feb-16-2005 05:34 PM
lesil22, I plan on running the Umstead Trail Marathon March 5th and I don't plan running any races before then. In fact, I'll be so slow in the marathon that I wouldn't necessarily say I was racing!After March 5th, I thinking about Cary Road Race April 9th: 10k or 5k. Good luck in China Grove if you chose to go--sorry there is nothing local here on the 26th. ------------------
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Knoxes
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posted Feb-17-2005 07:12 PM
Hey Raleigh folks - just FYI - there's a group of CH's meeting in Charlotte in April for the racefest - 10K and Half. We'd love to have you down. Details (thread), details (thread), and more details (race).
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Feb-21-2005 02:20 PM
Ran some medium runs in Umstead over the week, but did my last long run of 15 miles on the pleasantly flat American Tobacco Trail. I plan on three more medium runs in Umstead before the marathon. Gottagetfaster, did you run the Company Mill Trail? I have decided that a faster than 4:40 finish will be my goal instead of the 4:20. While this is slow, I think it is realistic based on my training experiences to date. I have been able to lose about seven pounds and this has helped, but I underestimated the hills. Now I have more respect for how tough this marathon is. I plan on using how I feel and my heart monitor to aid in my pacing--I will adjust my pace to try and finish faster than 4:40. See you at Umstead! ------------------
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Gottagetfaster
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posted Feb-22-2005 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by RunBobaluRun:
Ran some medium runs in Umstead over the week, but did my last long run of 15 miles on the pleasantly flat American Tobacco Trail. I plan on three more medium runs in Umstead before the marathon. Gottagetfaster, did you run the Company Mill Trail? I have decided that a faster than 4:40 finish will be my goal instead of the 4:20. While this is slow, I think it is realistic based on my training experiences to date. I have been able to lose about seven pounds and this has helped, but I underestimated the hills. Now I have more respect for how tough this marathon is. I plan on using how I feel and my heart monitor to aid in my pacing--I will adjust my pace to try and finish faster than 4:40.
I was sick this past weekend and did not get to run at all. I have not run in 4 days! I am hoping to take it easy and get back to running in a day or so. I have no idea how this will affect my race, but I am hoping to consider it just a drastic taper.
I am planning on trying to run by feel. In other words, I have not idea what my finish time might be. It could be anywhere from 3:30 (not very likely) to 4:30. I have never run a marathon where I had no idea about my finishing time, so this will be a new experience.
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Feb-22-2005 02:14 PM
Gottagetfaster, sorry to hear about your illness. I know how you feel. What was your finish time for Richmond? One way to go on a finish time goal is add 20 minutes to your Richmond finish if you are in the same condition. Add more if in worse condition or subtract if in better condition. I base this on my test runs on trails vs. road and trails with hills vs. road. Running on pavements gives you a bounce that helps propel you forward while trails absorb more of this bounce. I hope you recover quickly!! Resting at this point is good. Eight miles tomorrow in Umstead--this will be my last run in the park. I will try to get on shorter run in Umstead next week. Bob
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Gottagetfaster
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posted Feb-22-2005 04:49 PM
I ran Richmond in 3:29. I have been advised that I should plan on adding 30 minutes to that for Umstead, but I have no idea if that is accurate or not. I know how the Umstead hills feel for 15 miles, but I have no idea how they will feel after 20 and a taper.Good luck with your 8 miler and keep your fingers crossed for cool weather for the next couple of weeks.
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Feb-22-2005 06:17 PM
Can't disagree with the 30 minutes--looks like 4 hours should be your goal--if your feeling OK. Funny thing about March weather--March 5th 2004 was warm and March 5th 2003 was cold. Maybe with luck we will be right on the average temerature and humidity for March 5th, which is excellent running weather. Bob
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emlennon
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posted Feb-23-2005 08:59 PM
Ok all, I need some ideas!I'm hoping to get back to running SOON after my now 3 weeks off due to an injury. I'm going to need to run on some softer footing than pavement. I'll try umstead, but it's too far for me to drive during the week.
I live right by the Western blvd beltline exit -- can you think of anywhere close to there that would have some dirt or grass trails I could run on? Is lake shelley paved or dirt? I'm also going to be running on the dreadmill once a week but I think that's about all I can take -- especially in the spring! THanks for any ideas, and good luck to everyone who is doing umstead next weekend!!!! Liz
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Gottagetfaster
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posted Feb-24-2005 08:54 AM
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Ok all, I need some ideas!I'm hoping to get back to running SOON after my now 3 weeks off due to an injury. I'm going to need to run on some softer footing than pavement. I'll try umstead, but it's too far for me to drive during the week.
I live right by the Western blvd beltline exit -- can you think of anywhere close to there that would have some dirt or grass trails I could run on? Is lake shelley paved or dirt? I'm also going to be running on the dreadmill once a week but I think that's about all I can take -- especially in the spring! THanks for any ideas, and good luck to everyone who is doing umstead next weekend!!!! Liz
Liz, Shelley Lake and Lake Lynn both have nice ashphalt paved paths that circle the lakes. I understand that asphalt is better to run on than concrete, but still not as soft as dirt or grass. You still might want to give either a try because they are both better than a sidewalk or the road.
While I enjoy the bridle paths inside Umstead, many of them have become so packed that it seems like they are almost as hard as ashpalt. However, I am usually huffing and puffing from the hills and I do not notice the surface. Sorry I do not have any good suggestions for dirt/grass areas to run, but good luck on your running.
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Feb-24-2005 06:53 PM
emlennon, they have been working on a greenway out near Western Blvd. from Meredith College to Umstead. Not done yet, but may be some trails available in the future. See http://www.ncdot.org/transit/bicycle/projects/highlights/offroad/offroad_reedycreekmap.html for some details.Being injuried, I would think the hills at Umstead should be avoided. My favorite trail is the American Tobacco trail, Wake County side, but this would be a twenty minute drive from where you are. The trail is flat and soft (as compared to most of Umstead's bridle trails). Good luck on your recovery. ------------------
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Feb-28-2005 10:58 AM
Gottagetfaster, I hope you have recovered. I did my long run Friday of 10.2 miles in Umstead and took the weekend off from running, but got a good work out going up and down stairs emptying the attic for a heat pump installation. One more 6.4 mile run in Umstead tomorrow. Smaller runs around work and American Tobacco trail the rest of the week. Weather forecast for Saturday: Chance of showers with high of 50 degrees. Temperature at race start: mid to high 30s.
We can only hope the rain doesn't show up until the afternoon--if at all. ------------------
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Gottagetfaster
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posted Mar-02-2005 08:54 AM
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Gottagetfaster, I hope you have recovered. I did my long run Friday of 10.2 miles in Umstead and took the weekend off from running, but got a good work out going up and down stairs emptying the attic for a heat pump installation. One more 6.4 mile run in Umstead tomorrow. Smaller runs around work and American Tobacco trail the rest of the week. Weather forecast for Saturday: Chance of showers with high of 50 degrees. Temperature at race start: mid to high 30s.
We can only hope the rain doesn't show up until the afternoon--if at all.
2 more days before Umstead - OK - 3 if you count today. I will have run a total of 5 days in the past 2 weeks, so this has been one severe taper for me. Oh well. The weather is still looking pretty good for the race and I am hoping the rain will hold off until mid-afternoon. Good luck and I will see you at the race. I was going to say "Hi" at the race, but I have no idea what you look like or what yoiu might be wearing. I do not know what I will be wearing but I am about 6' 3" 180 and I will probably have on a ear thingy to keep my ears warm.
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Mar-02-2005 05:21 PM
Gottagetfaster: See you at the race. Here is a picture of me in front with red on during the Richmond marathon. I'll be wearing the same outfit assuming the temperature will be near forty at the start--if it is too cold I'll have a garbage back keeping me warm before the start.http://www.brightroom.com/view_user_photo.asp?EVENTID=4283&PWD=&ID=11804821&FROM=photos&BIB=2315 Hey, my weight is 180 lbs too--except I'm 5'8"! ------------------
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