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JasonsDrivingForce
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 posted Oct-19-2006 10:37 AM
  
Don’t be afraid of it. You will do fine if you just pace yourself. I wouldn’t attack the first hill you see or it could be your last. Find a pace you are comfortable with and stick with it. If you are still feeling good when you get back on Weston Parkway on the way back then that is the time to start pushing it a little more. There are some long down hills on the return trip. You can probably make some time up if you are still feeling strong. Just leave some for the last 2 miles. Those 2 miles are all uphill with no break. When you finish you will know that you have completed what could be the toughest course in the Raleigh area! Now that will feel good. quote:
Originally posted by runwrath66:
Yikes! This is going to be my first half marathon. I honestly don't know if I am up for the challenge. To be honest, I am a bit um...terrified? concerned?
(maybe somewhere between the two)
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Oct-19-2006 11:37 AM
Yea tell me about it. As long as it doesn’t rain then I will run with the stroller. That first hill will set me back probably 1.5 minutes after the first mile. I am going to try to make it up on the second mile. With the stroller that is the only way to get a decent time. You have to go all out on the downhill just to make up for the fact that the uphills slow you down soooo much. So give me a shout as you blow past me on the uphills. And you can draft off of me on the downhills. The double jogger actually acts as a pretty good wind screen at speed. Should be a fun race! I wonder if any of the local speedsters will show up for this race? Usually they sit this one out because of the extreme terrain. That makes the winning time much higher than it normally is. For the 2nd empire grand prix series that is great. Because you can really bust your butt for a good time on this race and since the winning time is so slow you will pick up a lot of points. Now if someone comes in and blasts a 31:00 then your 45:00+ will probably be the race you have to throw out. quote:
Originally posted by jsrrunner:
I am doing the Inside Out 10K this weekend, so I did a few runs on the course to find out how bad the hills really are. Let me just say, it is going to be brutal in the first mile! The second mile is all slightly downhill, so the times should be fast (assuming you can recover from mile 1!). From there on, it is all huge rolling hills, either flying downhill or crawling uphill on Weston Parkway. I can't believe they are ending the race higher than the starting point. I moved here from Indiana this summer, so I am not a hill runner. I'm just hoping to survive the race! Normally I would run about 40 or 41:00 for 10K. Just hoping to do 45 on this course....Janelle
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ubiquitous
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posted Oct-20-2006 11:16 PM
Hey there! Just recently moved to Durham for grad school. Still working on finding good places to run in the immediate area and also trying to get back into running after being injured all summer (booo!). I have never been much of a morning runner, but I am trying to train myself to get out there in the morning, otherwise I may or may not get a run in later in the day, you know. Anyway, just wondering if ya'll have any run recommendations, are looking for a morning running buddy, or know of some people that run in the morning. Just let me know. Hope you are enjoying the beautiful weather we are having. 
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bitbit
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posted Oct-21-2006 10:35 PM
Welcome!
I'm in west Cary, so I don't know of all the good running spots in Durham. But the American Tobacco Trail (ATT) is a great place to run, as is Umstead State Park. That may be too far for you to drive during the week, but both places are full of runners on the weekend.
Glad to hear you are back to running after the injury!
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Hey there! Just recently moved to Durham for grad school. Still working on finding good places to run in the immediate area and also trying to get back into running after being injured all summer (booo!). I have never been much of a morning runner, but I am trying to train myself to get out there in the morning, otherwise I may or may not get a run in later in the day, you know. Anyway, just wondering if ya'll have any run recommendations, are looking for a morning running buddy, or know of some people that run in the morning. Just let me know. Hope you are enjoying the beautiful weather we are having.
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thefish
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posted Oct-22-2006 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by ubiquitous:
Hey there! Just recently moved to Durham for grad school. Still working on finding good places to run in the immediate area and also trying to get back into running after being injured all summer (booo!). I have never been much of a morning runner, but I am trying to train myself to get out there in the morning, otherwise I may or may not get a run in later in the day, you know. Anyway, just wondering if ya'll have any run recommendations, are looking for a morning running buddy, or know of some people that run in the morning. Just let me know. Hope you are enjoying the beautiful weather we are having.
I really like the route around the dook xc course- Almost 3 miles around (I do it twice) hilly and crowded enough I always feel safe. It's very close to where 751 and 15-501 intersect- across from campus. Also, the American tobacco trail is nice- it is paved on the North side of 40 and unpaved on the south side (but that side can be harder to find- it's near southpoint mall). Finally, I agree that Umstead is worth it for longer runs because it is just really nice to run out there- since it is a 15 minute drive for me I only do it occasionally for a change of pace/scenery.
Carolina Godiva would be a good running club to check out if you are looking for people to run with- I think they are based in durham. You can probably google their website.
Welcome to town.
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swatkins
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posted Oct-22-2006 07:09 PM
So, how did everyone do at the IOS Classic today? I ran the 10K and it was rough! The weather conditions only made it worse. I was so chilled at the end--I guess I didn't realize the race was ending so far from the start. I didn't stick around to eat, socialize or check results, I just wanted to be warm and dry! BTW, the Grand Prix results for the first 2 races are finally posted.
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rlemert
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posted Oct-22-2006 07:40 PM
I was in my usuall place well back in the pack - finished just under 62 minutes - but it's a 2:18 PR for me. I couldn't help thinking, though, that I would have gone under 60:00 if this had been the Old Reliable. I was bib #1227 if you want to look (whenever they get the pictures up - assuming the do; I know they were having Brightleaf there for the half, and I saw photographers at several points taking pictures of the 10k). With all the hills I tried to pace myself according to my heart rate - holding to 160 going out, 165 after the turn-around, and letting it all hang loose in the last mile or so. The strategy seemed to work, so I may be getting the hang of these things. It helped, I thought, that the last mile was a more-gradual hill than the other ones on the course, but still .... I was able to get on the road before the heavy rain hit, but I had to feel for the half runners still out on the course. I did the half last year in 2:23 and there were still people behind me, so I know there were people still out there when the heavier rain hit. (Last year the 'food' stand had already been taken down by the time I finished and got back to the registration area, so this year I made a point of mentioning it to some of the volunteers. I asked them to make an effort to remain open for my fellow "glaciers".) I did get a chance to meet JasonsDrivingForce - that baby stroller really makes him stand out. A good-looking kid, but definitely in a league beyond me. Of course he looked like he was struggling up that first hill after the turn-around when we crossed paths. I suspect that we're probably both carrying about the same number of pounds up those hills, but I can't opt to leave mine behind if I want. By the way, there's a post in the Newby Cafe (A noob's advice to other noob's - or something like that) that's got some great pictures of the Autism Ribbon run - especially the picture of the start. I'm pretty sure that's JasonsDrivingForce in the red shirt partially hidden by the shirtless man in the front. (I'm well out of frame in that picture.) Maybe we can hood up and meet at the next race (for me it's the new Nike 5k in two weeks).
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swatkins
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posted Oct-22-2006 09:03 PM
I saw a guy w/ a double stroller--blondish hair, blue shirt, was that you, JDF?
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Oct-22-2006 10:23 PM
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Originally posted by swatkins:
I saw a guy w/ a double stroller--blondish hair, blue shirt, was that you, JDF?
Yes and no. Yes that was me however that was actually the single stroller today. I guess I kind of cheated. I chickened out and only took my 3 year old son for the ride. My wife and I thought it was just too long of a race to take our 8 month old daughter out on. I had a decent run today considering I am fighting off a cold and my training has dwindled to less than 6 mpw. I just can't find the time to train. Anyway I ended up with a 44:06 for the 10K with the single stroller. That is 3 minutes faster than I did on the same race with the single stroller last year. Now my son has gotten bigger and those extra 85 feet we had to climb this year were brutal. Yes I was definitely struggling when I saw you rlemert. However, that was the toughest hill on the course. Man that one was steep! I actually work in a building on the top of that hill so I know the course well.
My pace was all over the place as most of you could tell. I would just let the stroller take over on the downhills and it would crush me on the uphills. Take a look at my splits below. 1st mile 6:40
2nd mile 5:48
3rd mile 6:49
4th mile 8:24
5th mile 6:38
6th mile 8:10
Last quarter 1:26 It was a good race and I was actually glad to have the rain. It kept me cool. Almost to cool. My hands were too cold. I picked up a pair of those new self warming gloves at inside out after the race. That should help. See you guys at the next race. Great job to everyone who ran today. That is a super tough race. The only one that is hillier is this one. If you are up for a challenge then I will see you there in December. http://www.runnc.com/exec/young/schedule.cfm?publicationID=283#sv December 10 (Sunday) Chapel Hill – Southern Village Holiday 5K – 5,000 Meters, 1 mile – 2:00 p.m. – Contact: Bob Callanan, 404 Highgrove Drive, Chapel Hill, NC 27516 (bobcallanan@nc.rr.com or 919/928-0480. DETAILS TO FOLLOW ------------------
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brook trout
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posted Oct-23-2006 09:51 AM
Good racing, all! I wanted to get out to particpate or, at least, spectate, but I had the kids this weekend with wife out of town, so no way I could go to a race!Wife's going out of town next week, too - this time taking the kids, so I have some free time (very rare for me). I wanted to run a race of some length, but there're only some 5Ks and such around here, so, like a true knucklehead, I registered for a marathon in Morganton. So, my bachelor's weekend will be staying up in mountains and running a marathon on Saturday. Obviously, I won't race the thing, but I am going to try to finish. I will take a DNF if it gets too bad. My goal race is in March, and I don't want to risk getting hurt or putting myself too far behindi n training. ------------------
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Oct-23-2006 02:56 PM
Hey brook trout. If you want to get some speed work in and avoid getting injured in the marathon then come run one or both of the 5ks with us. The monster dash on Sunday is supposed to be really flat. I am sure we could blast past the 19:00 mark if we pace ourselves. Anyway, if you are still going to do the marathon good luck with it and I hope everything goes well. You missed a killer course yesterday! Heck you could have run with the twins. I would have let you borrow the double jogger!http://www.trianglemonsterdash.com/ http://www.runnc.com/exec/young/schedule.cfm?publicationID=283#K-9 ------------------
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brook trout
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posted Oct-23-2006 07:30 PM
Nah, I'm going to stick with this long distance stuff for a while and see where it takes me. I think it's having an effect. I ran 12 miles at avg. 7:01 pace yesterday at Shelley Lake with moderate effort, which it pretty good for me.I'll be up for some short races in a few weeks, though! Not going for PRs, though - training through them. If a PR comes in the process, though, I'll be stoked! JDF - you'd probably break the marathon world record at this run I'm doing this weekend - first 14 miles are down hill . Only problem is a one mile long, 300' hill at mile 17  If the wheels come off, that'll be the place, I reckon. ------------------
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Oct-24-2006 08:07 AM
Good luck with that Marathon. Yea I would love to do a marathon right now. However, I think running a marathon on less than 6 mpw would be pretty wreckless. 14 downhill miles does sound like it would be fun though. I think I am just going to see if I can hammer out a PR in that monster race. My son will love dressing up for the race. The course is so flat that I might really try to shave off some time from my PR. I felt really comfortable running below 6 minute miles on the downhills on Sunday. It was just those blasted uphills that destroyed me. With this short flat race on Sunday I shouldn’t have any trouble holding my pace.Great job on that 12 miles at 7 minute pace. Man I know I can’t do that. I really need to get out there and train more. How do you find the time with 3 kids and a job? Are you going to run any more of the local races? Old Reliable 10K, 8K turkey trot?
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Nah, I'm going to stick with this long distance stuff for a while and see where it takes me. I think it's having an effect. I ran 12 miles at avg. 7:01 pace yesterday at Shelley Lake with moderate effort, which it pretty good for me.I'll be up for some short races in a few weeks, though! Not going for PRs, though - training through them. If a PR comes in the process, though, I'll be stoked! JDF - you'd probably break the marathon world record at this run I'm doing this weekend - first 14 miles are down hill . Only problem is a one mile long, 300' hill at mile 17 If the wheels come off, that'll be the place, I reckon.
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runwrath66
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posted Oct-24-2006 08:39 AM
I ran my first half-marathon!!! What a rush:-) Thank you for your encouragement and information in the week prior to the race. Hearing about the difficulty of the course made me question my training a little bit, but the Inside Out half marathon was a wonderful race. I loved the course - except for that last hill before the finish line.I think that my time was just under 2hr 17min, so I was out on the course when the rain got heavy. I wear glasses, so my baseball cap was a very crucial piece of gear. I was warm enough (unusual for me), and I had terrific company (angel) during the race. I met a woman with a comfortable, rock-solid pace, and she was SO encouraging when my knee got really stiff at around mile 9. My knee continued to give me trouble until the end of the race, so her pep talks really kept me going. I did not get my finishing time because I had a group of friends waiting for me at the finish line. They even had a big sign! I was so moved that my friends would brave the rain just to see me finish that I did not think about my time until my running angel looked back at the finish line and called out the time to me. Today I turn 40, but I think I got my present this past weekend:-)
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Oct-24-2006 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by runwrath66:
I ran my first half-marathon!!! What a rush:-) Thank you for your encouragement and information in the week prior to the race. Hearing about the difficulty of the course made me question my training a little bit, but the Inside Out half marathon was a wonderful race. I loved the course - except for that last hill before the finish line.I think that my time was just under 2hr 17min, so I was out on the course when the rain got heavy. I wear glasses, so my baseball cap was a very crucial piece of gear. I was warm enough (unusual for me), and I had terrific company (angel) during the race. I met a woman with a comfortable, rock-solid pace, and she was SO encouraging when my knee got really stiff at around mile 9. My knee continued to give me trouble until the end of the race, so her pep talks really kept me going. I did not get my finishing time because I had a group of friends waiting for me at the finish line. They even had a big sign! I was so moved that my friends would brave the rain just to see me finish that I did not think about my time until my running angel looked back at the finish line and called out the time to me. Today I turn 40, but I think I got my present this past weekend:-)
That is what running is all about! Feeling good about what you have accomplished. Congrats on your excellent run. I agree that the Inside out sports event was a great one even with the rain. See you at the next race!
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Oct-24-2006 02:48 PM
Inside Out Results are up!http://www.active.com/results/viewresults.cfm?e_id=1341509 The 2nd empire classic series have not been updated to include this past race though. I wouldn’t expect those until next week.
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rlemert
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posted Oct-24-2006 03:27 PM
Apparently I just imagined my PR over the weekend - I'm not in the results. There's a gap between 193rd and 194th place that I think I fit into, but I'm not there. Bummer! I've sent in an email about the matter - so I hope they find me. (I seem to be jinxed by the Inside-Out Classic. Last year they ran out of metals before I finished the half and shut down the food table before I could get to it. Now this.)
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bitbit
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posted Oct-24-2006 03:49 PM
Hey Brook Trout,I just found out about the marathon last week and registered too! I think it's going to be fun (and maybe a little painful!) Now I just have to find a place to stay! Good luck!
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Originally posted by brook trout:
I wanted to run a race of some length, but there're only some 5Ks and such around here, so, like a true knucklehead, I registered for a marathon in Morganton.So, my bachelor's weekend will be staying up in mountains and running a marathon on Saturday. Obviously, I won't race the thing, but I am going to try to finish. I will take a DNF if it gets too bad. My goal race is in March, and I don't want to risk getting hurt or putting myself too far behindi n training.
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swatkins
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posted Oct-24-2006 03:58 PM
I was shocked to see I got 2nd in my AG considering the crappy time I ran. As near as I can tell, that will put me 3rd in AG for the series to date. This is more fun than marathon training! I think part of the reason I like running is because there's math involved 
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runwrath66
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posted Oct-24-2006 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by rlemert:
Apparently I just imagined my PR over the weekend - I'm not in the results. There's a gap between 193rd and 194th place that I think I fit into, but I'm not there. Bummer! I've sent in an email about the matter - so I hope they find me. (I seem to be jinxed by the Inside-Out Classic. Last year they ran out of metals before I finished the half and shut down the food table before I could get to it. Now this.)
I am sorry to hear about the omission of your name in the results. I hope they find you too. Congratulations on your race! I ran the HM this year; I did not get a medal either. It was the same issue. They ran out. It would be nice if they send one to me eventually, but it is O.K. if they don't. I am just happy to finish with my parts (knees) and pride intact! I did not check out the food table, so I do not know if that was still going. After the race, I went to Panera and got an egg souffle(?) with bacon. (very tasty) BTW, after the Ribbon Run (not a PR), I went to Big Ed's for a ham biscuit. That made it all better. I am a simple lady with simple needs (running, skating, ham, bacon:-).
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brook trout
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posted Oct-24-2006 05:02 PM
Hey, bit - the Host hotel (the Comfort Inn) still had some reserved rooms available when I registered. It's a good deal - 65 bucks or something plus a 1:00pm checkout with continental breakfast for us runners. You should give them a call!Yes, I think it should be fun, but I agree, it might also be excrutiatingly painful! I can't imagine running downhill for 14 miles, but I'm guessing it'll be a rolling descent, not a straight shot, which will break it up somewhat. I FEAR that hill at mile 17, though. It's ugly. I did a profile of it in g-maps (it doesn't look so back relative to the huge downhill of the first 14). In isolation, it's a real monster - literally a mile long and 300 feet. It doesn't get much worse than that, really... Any idea what the size of the larger hills in Umstead are? It should be a beautiful run, though! Maybe we'll see the brown mountain lights! ------------------
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posted Oct-24-2006 09:22 PM
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Inside Out Results are up!http://www.active.com/results/viewresults.cfm?e_id=1341509 The 2nd empire classic series have not been updated to include this past race though. I wouldn’t expect those until next week.
Does anyone know why they sort the times (and calculate pace) by the gun time rather than the chip time? It seems like it is less accurate. I think this past weekend's HM was my first race since ~1988, so I'm not really up on all this new chip technology. Thanks.
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Oct-24-2006 10:17 PM
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Does anyone know why they sort the times (and calculate pace) by the gun time rather than the chip time? It seems like it is less accurate. I think this past weekend's HM was my first race since ~1988, so I'm not really up on all this new chip technology. Thanks.
All races are run off of gun time as opposed to chip time because that is the official time. The results are always sorted by guntime finishing order. The chip time is just so you know what you actually ran.
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JasonsDrivingForce
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posted Oct-24-2006 10:34 PM
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I FEAR that hill at mile 17, though. It's ugly. I did a profile of it in g-maps (it doesn't look so back relative to the huge downhill of the first 14). In isolation, it's a real monster - literally a mile long and 300 feet. It doesn't get much worse than that, really... Any idea what the size of the larger hills in Umstead are? It should be a beautiful run, though! Maybe we'll see the brown mountain lights!
The only hill I know of that rises 150 feet in half a mile is in the Southern Village 5K in Chapel Hill. That is one stupid hill! It basically looks more like something you would repel down as opposed to run up. That is the only time in my 40+ races that I have ever been reduced to walking. Now I had the stroller with me so I was really feeling it but 150 vertical feet is 150 vertical feet. It will hurt no matter how you get up it. Check out the map of the southern village 5K. The hill starts just after mile 1 and goes to just about mile 1.5. http://www.usatf.org/events/courses/maps/images/NC04085PH.png I can’t imagine what that 300 foot monster is going to be like! I would like to see the 14 miles downhill though. That sounds like a challenge to me! [This message has been edited by JasonsDrivingForce (edited Oct-24-2006).] [This message has been edited by JasonsDrivingForce (edited Oct-24-2006).]
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jaysoffian
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posted Oct-24-2006 10:45 PM
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Originally posted by JasonsDrivingForce:
All races are run off of gun time as opposed to chip time because that is the official time. The results are always sorted by guntime finishing order. The chip time is just so you know what you actually ran.
It is worth noting, for those of us attempting to BQ, that Boston takes your chip time. j.
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