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vashondan
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 posted Aug-05-2006 08:19 PM
   
Thanks much, I'll check it out.
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jaysoffian
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posted Aug-06-2006 08:06 PM
This week was a recovery and since I only had a 13 scheduled for today I decided to run it in Umstead. I've been running the ATT so long I forgot how enjoyable Umstead can be. I parked outside the Harrison entrance (park not open at 7:15 am!?) and ran Reedy Creek to Turkey Creek to Graylyn and then cut over to Company Mill just past the bridge and did the entire Company Mill trail CCW back to where I picked it up, got back on Graylyn to Reedy Creek back to the entrance. Ended up being a bit over 14 miles.N Turkey Creek is not as bad as I remember. I was taking it easy when a runner passed me and asked how I was doing, so I picked up my pace to run with him. It's amazing how much easier it can be running with someone slightly faster to pace you. He'd run Grandfather six times and called a 3:07 marathon "steady pace." Training for Richmond. I can't wait for the day that 3:07 is a walk in the park for me. Anyway, we parted ways at Graylyn. I had a lot of fun on Company Mill. The rocks can be a little hard on the feet but you feel fast cruising through the woods. I was pretty drenched at the end since it was so humid, but the heat wasn't too bad with the overcast weather. j.
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Aug-07-2006 09:13 AM
Jay, great run!
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jaysoffian
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posted Aug-13-2006 04:02 PM
This thread's been quiet lately. Cross-posting my Fall Marathon Trainers Thread entry from Mainstream Racing:OBX 13 weeks out. Was supposed to do an LT run (10 miles, 5 at LT) on Tue but decided to switch it till Thu so I could run with the local running club. Big mistake. The run was @ 6:30 pm and it was 90+ degrees at start. This is a 10k run in a pretty hilly park, descending first then running back up. I trashed my quads going down too fast, then killed myself coming back up. I felt nauseous the entire run. The 10k took me almost 55 minutes with 1/2 way split @ 24 mins. Yuck. So I spent 15 minutes recovering from that, then went out on my own to put in another very easy 4. Not a good running day. So today the weather breaks. 66 at the start of my 17 mi run. Glorious. I felt dead the first few miles then picked it up a little, then decided I needed to make up for that piss-poor tempo on Thu so I ran tempo pace the last 5 and felt damn good doing it. Makes up for a poor fast-finish attempt two weeks ago too. Today's run: 9:48/134 9:28/131 9:20/133 9:05/135 9:10/135 9:10/136 8:54/133 9:49/135 (water) 8:20/147 8:32/141 8:42/146 8:25/149 7:38/157 7:39/158 7:52/160 8:18/160 7:10/168 Rest of week: http://www.coolrunning.com/cgi-bin/log/display.cgi?u=jaysoffian;s=jaysoffian Next week will be fun ,first VO2max on the schedule. 9 mi with 6 x 800m @ 5k race pace; 2 min recovery in between. j.
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jaysoffian
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posted Aug-13-2006 04:06 PM
BTW, I'll also add that one should never think they've conquered N Turkey Creek. The Turkey was angry with me for being so cocky and exacted its revenge on Thursday.
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swatkins
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posted Aug-13-2006 07:25 PM
Am I the only one who thinks the S. Turkey Creek is worse? Too much sunshine, worse trail, same hills. I usually run Company Mill to Sycamore to Gralyn then run Turkey Creek from N to S. Then I run on the Bridle Trail. Is it worse the other direction? I was thinking of going the other way so I would hit the sunny part earlier in the run.PS--the Company Mill was a much kindler gentler trail thill the big rains hit it earlier in the season [This message has been edited by swatkins (edited Aug-13-2006).]
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jaysoffian
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posted Aug-13-2006 10:05 PM
Interesting. I've never thought of S Turkey Creek as challenging but I've only ever run it from S to N (downhill...). It seems less steep than N Turkey Creek though.I've never run Sycamore. I also haven't explored the north part of the park, so I haven't seen the big lake or sycamore lake yet. I did run Loblolly once. That was ... entertaining. About two years ago before they finished incorporating all of Turkey Creek into the park I got lost trying to find N Turkey Creek and ended up on Cedar Ridge. Had to walk across a fallen tree to cross the creek only to be attacked by giant flying insects all the way up Cedar Ridge trail. I haven't been on that trail since, but my recollection was it was a pretty good climb. Swatkins - you going to make it to the remaining Thu Umstead runs? I intend to go to the 5 miler this week. Also, this is out a couple months but I'm trying to decide between the Greensboro Cannonball 1/2 Marathon and the Inside-Out 1/2. j.
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swatkins
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posted Aug-15-2006 04:30 PM
You know, as much running as I do out at Umstead, I've never done one of those August runs. Is it a run or a race? I think I may go out there this week.What did you mean about Loblolly? How far out did you go? I used to run to the end of Umstead, through the field, over the fence and over to Schenck Forest. That was always kind of fun.
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Kintoro
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posted Aug-16-2006 04:45 PM
Does anyone know a good place to go and get stress tested? I am looking to get my HR max as well as VO2 Max. I know there is an official test to run through but don't know who handles this stuff around Raleigh. I live in the Apex area so even better if it is down this way.Thanks
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misterfun
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posted Aug-16-2006 10:40 PM
The Thursday night Umstead runs are what you make of them. They have a digital clock so if you want to time yourself against the other horses you can do that, or if you want to take it relaxed and enjoy the scenery and discussion you can do that. Last Thursday I was dragging along at the end of the pack and almost ran into two deer that were out on the trail. There were 92 runners that night, which they said was a record turnout for the August series. It's usually humid; bring extra water if you want -- they usually have a couple of coolers there -- and donate a few dollars to help cover the NCRC costs. I've really enjoyed them this year.Brad "They will run and not get weary" -- Isaiah 40:31
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jaysoffian
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posted Aug-18-2006 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by swatkins:
What did you mean about Loblolly? How far out did you go? I used to run to the end of Umstead, through the field, over the fence and over to Schenck Forest. That was always kind of fun.
I ran Loblolly from its intersection wit Reedy Creek Trail back to the Harrison parking lot. I seem to recall it not being well suited to running ... just seem to remember lots of switchbacks, bridges, steps, etc that kept slowing me down whenever I was about to get into a rhythm. I didn't make it to last night's run. Will try again next week. j.
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Aug-20-2006 12:42 PM
Just getting back into running. Ran 5k last week and PF pain was moderate. I plan on running one 5k a week until Sept. then switch to two 5ks a week. Jay you are on fire. Don't burn yourself out before the big race. North is worse than South. Yes, South has hills going in one direction, but they are not as steep. North going north is very hard, and South going south is hard. It's all bad! I don't run the hiking trails becasue of the chance of twisting an ankle--still they are more fun. ------------------
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bitbit
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posted Aug-20-2006 01:17 PM
Congrats Bob! Starting with 5k is great. 
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swatkins
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posted Aug-20-2006 03:37 PM
I did it the other direction and North going North sucks! Going south the uphills are longer more gradual climbs but going north is STEEP! I'm going back to my usual route next week and just not worrying about the sun. [This message has been edited by swatkins (edited Aug-20-2006).]
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mastiffmama
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posted Aug-28-2006 01:05 PM
DH and I went to Inside Out sports in Cary to get some new shoes. I was pretty underwhelmed by their selection. DH tried on several pairs and ended up with his usual Asics. I tried on several and got some that felt pretty good in the store, but I haven't tested them on a run yet.Anyway, are there other places in the triangle with more of a runner's section with clothes and stuff? I thought there was another Inside Out store but the website just talked about Cary.
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rlemert
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posted Aug-28-2006 06:09 PM
The Inside-Out Sports in the Ridgewood Shopping Center has closed - I think someone bought out the lease, but I could be wrong. There's a "Running Outfitters" I believe in town as well. I came across one last night behind the Applebee's at Six Forks and Sawmill in north Raleigh, but I haven't actually stopped in at it yet.
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bianchilvr
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posted Aug-29-2006 07:02 AM
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Anyway, are there other places in the triangle with more of a runner's section with clothes and stuff?
I love the Athlete's Foot. Great service and helpful salespeople (worth the extra drive from Apex).
http://www.theathletesfootrdu.com/
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brook trout
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posted Aug-29-2006 04:51 PM
I like Raleigh Running Outfitters in N. Raleigh. They seem to have a decent selection, though I'm not picky.------------------
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jim fleming
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posted Sep-01-2006 09:04 PM
9th Street Active Feet also does a nice job: http://www.9thstactivefeetinc.com/
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Sep-06-2006 12:31 PM
Knocked out 3.3 miles on the American Tobacco Trail this morning. PF continues to get better, but I have been struggling with another problem. I have a pinched nerve in my neck due to arthritis, which has caused pain in my upper right back and numbed part of my hand and lower forearm. When I run the pain increases to the point of making the PF and the normal muscle pain seem little. I go for my third epidural today to try to get the disc to get off the nerve, but if that does not work I think it will be surgery. Off to Chicago this weekend. I'll be at the IMTS show and staying near the lake shore. Plan on running the lake shore trail. I really have gotten into group road rides. I do two a week for about 33 miles each, and it is extremely enjoyable. I plan to make biking regular adventure once I get back to my daily running. Jay, your looking strong. Update us on your progress. Your race is getting close. Bob ------------------
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swatkins
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posted Sep-06-2006 09:34 PM
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I have a pinched nerve in my neck due to arthritis, which has caused pain in my upper right back and numbed part of my hand and lower forearm. When I run the pain increases to the point of making the PF and the normal muscle pain seem little. I go for my third epidural today to try to get the disc to get off the nerve, but if that does not work I think it will be surgery.
Bob
The epidurals may give you symptomatic relief but they won't get the disc off the nerve. (I work in a pain clinic). On the bright side, discs in the neck are more likely to slip back into alignment than lumbar discs are. I had a cervical disc last summer when I was training for Chicago and running made the numbness/headaches worse, so I know what you're going through. Good luck today!@
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jaysoffian
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posted Sep-08-2006 01:03 AM
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Jay, your looking strong. Update us on your progress. Your race is getting close.
Hey Bob, thanks for asking. Glad to hear your PF is improving. Sorry about the issues w/your back. It's been tough getting in my runs with the 80 hour weeks I've been pulling at work plus family obligations. Just finished an 8 mile run on the treadmill and you can see from the posting time how late it is. I've had to juggle the schedule a little and missed a couple short runs but I haven't missed any important runs yet. After having that terrific 17 mile run a few weeks back I had my 20 miler and it was miserable. I ran it on the ATT starting at 5:00 am. Had no idea it would be pitch black out (no moon that night) and I had no head lamp. Still it was nice and cool, and it was cool running in the dark under the stars. I could just barely make out a faint glow from the gravel path. It was also great being done by 8 am. But I ended up running about a 10:15 pace which is very slow (I've been doing my longs at 9:00 pace). I just didn't have any energy to pick things up till the last mile or two. Oh well, at least I got the miles in. On Monday my long run was 16 w/12 at MP and I ran that on my treadmill. This was a real confidence booster because the 12 I did @ 8:00 pace my HR didn't budge from 150. This is compared to the marathon I did back in Oct when my HR was in the 160-165 range at 8:23 pace. So big improvement there. Quads were a little tired at the end which I know hill running would improve but I'm afraid to do that w/my past achilles problems. So I've had a couple crappy long runs, but I always seem to have good run the following week. My achilles has been fine as long as I don't run Umstead. I think I'll hit my goal of a 3:30 marathon. Compared to last year my runs have become almost effortless. I'm not sure if this is because of the longer base, the additional milage (I'm consistently running >40 per week vs ~ 30 last year), or just more running experience, but I'll take it whatever the reason. One issue is that my core strength is awful and I'm either going to have to take some pilates or just force myself to start doing push-ups/crunches, etc (blech). I really wish I had the time to put in more milage. I'd love to try a 70-80 mile/week plan and see where it takes me but that'll have to wait. I'm racking up a time debt with my wife/kids that I'll have to repay once I'm done w/this marathon and the insanity @ work. Swatkins - how's the OBX training coming along with you? j.
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swatkins
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posted Sep-08-2006 06:33 AM
I'm chugging along. My training plan involves 2 track workouts/week for the first 6 weeks so that has been challenging but I've been hitting my times right on the money with my repeats. I've got a little trouble w/ my piriformis at the moment which I think is from running 'round the track so much w/ a leg-length discrepancy. I found some stretches to do and have had a trigger point injection.I'm at about 45 mpw right now. I'm planning on doing a 5K tomorrow (at Crossroads) to get a feel for how I'm coming along.
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Sep-10-2006 10:59 AM
Swatkins, thanks for the information. I really don't want surgery. I enjoy riding in the bike groups, but this puts a strain on my neck. I refuse to give this up, so somehow I have to get this neck back in shape. I use a traction machine each evening, but have yet to see this help. The third shot seemed to help for a few days, but after a two hour group ride I was back to the same pain. Swatkins, any advice for getting the disc to pull back?I'm in Chicago for five days, and I enjoyed a very scenic run on Lakeshore Trail this morning--just a slow thirty minutes. PF was OK. Even the back backed off on its high level of complaining. PF and back complained more about walking around the IMTS show here than the run. Jay, as you approach the marathon, I suggest backing down on the long run pace. It looks like you may have over trained. You need weeks running a slower pace to recover for the race. Don't push the pace. On the shorter runs to eight miles and less you can run marathon pace for some miles to give yourself confidence. Running slower now will give your body time to heal, and you will be ready for a record breaking marathon Bob
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swatkins
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posted Sep-10-2006 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by RunBobaluRun:
Swatkins, thanks for the information. I really don't want surgery. I enjoy riding in the bike groups, but this puts a strain on my neck. I refuse to give this up, so somehow I have to get this neck back in shape. I use a traction machine each evening, but have yet to see this help. The third shot seemed to help for a few days, but after a two hour group ride I was back to the same pain. Swatkins, any advice for getting the disc to pull back?
Bob
Unfortunately, the position your head is in when riding the bike is probably compressing the nerve and causing things to flare up--anything that involves tilting the head back tends to make it worse. Usually what makes the body heal is "tincture of time".
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