posted Jun-18-2006 10:03 AM            

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posted Jun-18-2006 11:27 AM            

I would recommend going to a running specialty store. The staff at these types of places is usually more knowledgeable than the staff at shoe places in the mall, or Dick's Sporting Goods, etc.

I have been to Inside Out sports in Cary and Raleigh.

http://insideoutsports.com/

There is also Raleigh Running Outfitters. I haven't been to that one though.

http://www.raleighrunning.com/index.htm

There is probably a specialty running store in Durham. Hopefully someone else will chime in with some suggestions!

Good Job on completing the C25K!

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posted Jun-19-2006 08:17 AM               

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posted Jun-20-2006 08:34 PM            

I want to hear about the whole experience from bottom to top.

Jay is the expert here, but I'll thow in my 2 cents:
If you run on a treadmill, I recommend putting at a minimum of a 1% inclince to 1.5% because at a level incline it is like running downhill. A small incline of 1% gives you a better feel for your actual pace on a level road.

Anyone have experience with Dr. Andrew Milner. He is a foot doctor that someone recommended I see for my foot problem.

Bob

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posted Jun-26-2006 08:41 PM            

Thanks for the link. I enjoyed that guy's report of the race!

I will definitely write you a GMM report! I just ran the Boogie marathon on June 17th. It was a night marathon! So fun! I spent this past week taking it easy to recover and will try to do a couple medium runs in the next couple weeks before GMM.

(I just did the Boogie marathon for fun instead of the scheduled 20 miler for that weekend. It was more fun than running alone.)

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posted Jun-28-2006 08:07 PM            

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Heh, I'll say. I've been doing all my running except my long run on my treadmill. The weather is almost perfect in my basement. :-)

Some people hate treadmills, I happen to like mine. I've got a TV setup, my time-warner DVR, and a nice Netflix queue so I've always got something to watch. The treadmill keeps me right on pace as well. I keep my basement at about 74 but crank it down to 68 when I'm on the treadmill and I've got a fan blowing on me as well. It's a very comfortable running environment vs NC summertime.

They say you should set the treadmill to 1% or 2% to make it equivalent to running outdoors but personally I feel like I'm always running faster than the treadmill says I am.

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Anyone have experience with Dr. Andrew Milner. He is a foot doctor that someone recommended I see for my foot problem.

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Bob, I wonder if I didn't mention him to you. That's the guy I saw. My wife saw him as well. I know he runs but I think just recreationally. I believe he's also treated quite a few runners from the local schools. Anyway, I found him pleasant enough and he assisted me with my AT issues, though I didn't have anything major.

Good luck,

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posted Jun-28-2006 08:21 PM            

You might also try http://www.omegasports.net/oslocations.html

Raleigh Running Outfitters is probably your best bet.

j.

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posted Jun-29-2006 02:14 PM            

Jay, sounds like you got this down to a science.

I saw Dr. Milner and he recommended Orthotics, custom inserts, and since I heard from a couple of other runners that they made a big difference for them, I bought some. They will arrive in three weeks.

He said to keep doing what I was doing, but see if I could increase the amount of time in a splint during the day (I wear a Strasburg sock at night). So I wear a soft splint sitting at my desk, flying, or anytime I am sitting or lying for a period of time. I wasn't doing the stretches each day, so now I try to do them at least once a day if not twice. He said if the PF is still showing no signs of healing in six weeks, he would recommend a hard splint.

He also said that both feet have heal spurs even though there is no sign of pain on the left foot. The left foot has bone growth above the lower ankle joint and there are signs of arthritis in the ankle--which I feel only when running. He went on to say at my age and with my foot problems, I should back off to three days a week of running--once I resume running.

I have been good keeping in shape with biking and the Stairmaster, and it looks like I will need to keep this up for months. I will have to supplement running, when I can run again, with these two cross training exercises.

Bob

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posted Jul-02-2006 10:21 AM               

The bridle paths in Umstead are wide and well groomed. However, they are very hilly, so I would expect that pushing a stroller through them would be a challenge.

If you're looking for a "trail" that you could push a stroller through, you might want to check out the American Tobacco Trail. I've run on the Wake section (cary) and the Durham section (up by Fayatteville Road). The section in Cary is packed earth and there is ample parking and facilities. The Durham section is paved, but no facilities other than parking. Both are pancake flat.

I'm sure there are suitable section on any of the greenways, too - but I've yet to explore much of the greenway system (I'm new to the area).

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posted Jul-02-2006 10:32 AM            

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posted Jul-03-2006 09:11 PM               

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posted Jul-03-2006 10:11 PM               

I got caught up in it, overheated, and had to actually stop and walk for about a 1/2 mile coming up out of the Gralyn Trail and then again up that nasty, long hill that starts at the dam on Reedy Creek and ends at the Ranger's road. It's the first time I've had to walk during a run in a loooong time.

I got a sunburn, too.

The rangers were out driving around on the bridle paths - I think they were sweeping up some wilted mountain bikers. I saw a pack of 'em on N. Turkey creek and one of them looked pretty bad.

It's nasty out there, folks. Stay cool...

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posted Jul-05-2006 01:20 AM            

Re: ATT. Ah, my favorite trail, getting to know it like an old friend. :-) There are three access points to the Wake portion. If you don't like to carry water (I don't), park at the middle access point which is at 3.5 miles and just stash your water there. You can then loop up to the northern access point (the 5 mile point on the trail) or to the southern access point. Both of those ends also have bathrooms. I used to park at the southern access point but 10 miles is way too far to go w/o water in this heat. Even 7 is pushing it so sometimes I carry water a mile south with me and stash it along the trail.

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posted Jul-06-2006 08:43 PM               

Are you kidding? That's the best trail out there! I ran out on the Sycamore Trail weekend before last and was surprised at how much flood damage there had been--2 bridges had been washed out and part of the trail was re-routed. Training for the Outer Banks Marathon begins Sunday--I'm going to running camp next week at ZAPFitness in Blowing Rock to kick things off.

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Are you kidding? That's the best trail out there!

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Heh. I had AT problems from doing too much too fast last year and N Turkey didnt' help any. It also didn't help that my introduction to it was the Thursday night running series. :-)

Anyway, my favorite Umstead route is to start at N Cary park and run up blackcreek into the park from one gate to the other and back. I also like the climb up to the southern parking lot.

Now that I'm in much better shape, maybe I'll give the turkey a try again. :-)

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I'm doing the Pftiz 55/24 plan for it so I'm already 6 weeks in. :-)

What's your target for OBX?

j.

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posted Jul-08-2006 05:39 PM               

My last 2 marathons I've done right at 4 hrs (3:59:57 and 4:00:34) so I want to push the envelope a little. I'm sure the coaches at running camp will halp me set a goal and develop a training plan. ?Y tu?

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posted Jul-09-2006 09:42 PM            

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Going for a 3:30. I want to BQ in my next couple marathons, which is a 3:15 for me. My last marathon was 3:54. Seems like a reasonable progression, though the prospect of running 7:28 pace for 26.2 miles is daunting right now.

What running camp?

j.

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posted Jul-10-2006 10:01 AM               

If so, I'm having a hard time thinking of a reason to race up and down N. Turkey Creek in the August heat!

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posted Jul-10-2006 05:07 PM            

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posted Jul-11-2006 12:28 AM            

I agree about the Umstead series. Running in miserable temps seems more fun when other people are with you!
I only got to run one of them last year, but hope to run more this year.

I survived GMM. The weather was perfect, in the 50s at the start and warming up to 70s or so during the race. We all started on the track at ASU. They told us the course was changed a little because construction was not actually finished. So we didn't run the new course or the old course, but something different. Of course, I would have never known the difference since it was my first time!

I hadn't run much since the marathon three weeks ago due to recovering from that race, being busy, and having my family in town. And I wasn't sure if I was completely recovered or not, since I don't usually run marathons so close together.

I knew I needed to take it slow because of the hills, but that is easier said than done. I missed the first mile marker, but then saw the second mile marker in just under 15 minutes! Way too fast! I let the people I was with go and hit the next several miles at 8 minutes each. Much better!

Everyone was so friendly at this race. Runners all talked to each other and asked "have you done this before?" and there were people cheering on the side of the road. (Not a lot of spectators, but the ones that were there would stop and cheer and then drive up the course to stop and cheer some more. My husband did this.) The course really was pretty. You could see the mountains off in the distance and everything was so green. The hills were tough though. My legs were really burning on the uphills and some of the downhills were so steep that it didn't really help at all.

I hit the half way point at about 1:46 feeling pretty good. But about mile 17 is when I could feel my legs getting more tired.
As usual, I was very happy to see mile 20, since I tell myself "keep running and you will be done in less than an hour" at that point. We were really up on the mountain by this point and the roads were very curvy. We really had to watch out to not get hit. Traffic was picking up and there were motorcycles and cars zooming around some of the corners.

I got passed a lot in the last six miles, which was hard. But my legs were spent and burning and I just wanted to keep running until the end. Finally, I passed the 26 mile marker and decided to try to pick up the pace and kick it in a little. Unfortunately, after the 26 mile marker, we ran about 0.1 miles up the road, turned onto a gravel road, then another gravel road, up a little hill, and ran one lap around a cinder track. Way more than 0.2 miles! I kept thinking "where is the end!!??" I finished in 3:45:59. Not great, but not terrible either.

It was a hard race, I won't lie. But it's fun if you go into it looking for a challenge. And it's not one that you want to go into injured. Dealing with PF or another injury would have only made the hills that much more painful. You were smart to wait until you are healthy to run it.

Next up (after some recovery time) is training for something flatter!

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posted Jul-11-2006 11:44 AM            

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How was that August running series in Umstead? I was thinking about doing some of them, but then I read that the races weren't timed, had no post race anything - just group runs, basically. Is that so?

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Yes, it's basically just a group run, though they did have a timing clock out for at least two of the races. They also had a water/gatorade table setup during the run and at the end. So call it a group run++.

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If so, I'm having a hard time thinking of a reason to race up and down N. Turkey Creek in the August heat!

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Actually it's worse, you race down N Turkey Creek and then back up it. :-) This especially stinks if you miss the turn-around point and run too far down N Turkey Creek. Doh.

None of the runs I went to were unbearably hot, at least as I recall.

Anyway, I'll prolly be there for at least a couple of the runs.

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Originally posted by cuinacat:
Hi Triangle folks,
Hope you don't mind a question from a newbie. I've been out of town for an extended period but I'll be returning in a few weeks. By that time I'll have completed the C25K (on week 7 now) and luckily the running shoes I just happened to have seem to have worked well for me. I've been very diligent though with the post-run icing and toe taps. However, I do want to get things checked out and get into an appropriate shoe pretty soon. Since I have no clue about pronation, stability shoes, or any of the other shoe/foot terminology, where would ya'll recommend that I visit to get fitted for a good pair of shoes? I'm in Durham but I wouldn't mind driving a little and maybe a place that's friendly to new runners would be great too. Thanks in advance for your suggestions!

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