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dapadge
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 posted Oct-08-2005 10:18 PM
  
[QUOTE]Originally posted by runramy:
[b]dapadge, I liked the Turkey Trot in Raleigh on Wade Ave (InsideOut Sports) last year. It's an 8K and the course has some really good hills. It was sort of emotional too, as it was the first race following my first marathon, and it was on part of my 20 mile course training run. Ah, the memories.Thanks runramy. Do you know if I can register the day of? What time does it start? I'm assuming it's on Thursday the 24th. Anything else I should know? Thanks again....
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swatkins
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posted Oct-09-2005 09:55 PM
Chicago is not a marathon, it is a long-distance obstacle course! You know how in most races you run elbow to elbow for a mile then the crowd thins out? Well, imagine running 26.2 miles like that! There were bottles and clothes on the course, elbows everywhere, at the water stations the cups were flying and the ground slippery from the cups and fluid. Toward the end, runners were going down! The crowd support was fabulous and the race was very well organized and everyone was very friendly. I won't run it again though. I never could get a cadence going as the crowd kept expanding and contracting and I had to weave constantly to keep my pace. I guess it kept me from focusing on my body as I had to have my wits about me the whole time. I didn't really have a time goal as my training was really rocky this season. I got in with the 4:00 pace group and tried to hang on as long as I could. Fortunatly I was able to do it the whole race and finished in 4:00:34 chip time. My splits were totally even and I feel great now although my toes are hamburger.
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Gottagetfaster
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posted Oct-10-2005 09:13 AM
Susan,It sounds like you had a good race despite the crowded conditions. What you experienced is exactly why I fear mega- marathons. What are you next race plans? You know you have already starting thinking about the next race! ------------------
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Gottagetfaster
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posted Oct-10-2005 09:16 AM
Amy,How did you enjoy the Autism Run? My son and I volunteered for the race and it appeared that everyone had a good time. Our bid responsibility for the race was to stand in front of the hole at the starting line so that people had to run around us (and the hole). The responsibility was daunting. ------------------
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runramy
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posted Oct-10-2005 11:00 AM
Well, those of us that didn't trip in the hole appreciated your blocking it.  The race was really bad for me. Like I said, I've been on the typhoid vaccine for a week now, and Saturday it was really affecting my digestive tract. It's the only time I've thrown up during a race, and the only time I've had to stop and walk during a 5K. My time was 2 minutes slower than my goal time, which is annoying and frustrating. HOWEVER, I absolutely believe it wasn't my fault and I'm not upset about it. Yesterday, I broke out a very impressive 8 miles at 1:17:33 (hey, it was impressive for me, and a 2:30 improvement over my last 8 miler).My performance and physical distress aside, I thought the race was really fun! Mike took a minute off his time from the Second Empire 5K, which made him happy. The food and crowd support was really good, and I always enjoy running downtown. I'm looking forward to the Old Reliable 10K. re: Turkey Trot , I haven't seen anything regarding registration yet. Most of the 5K's to 10K's you can register day of, and you can register online too beforehand. I'll keep my eyes peeled and if I see anything about registering I'll post it.
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Oct-10-2005 03:54 PM
Swatkins, I agree with you on the mega-races. I ran the 1/2 Rock n' Roll marathon last year with ten thousand people and I was always worried about running into somebody. Chicago has 40,000 runners! You did extremely well--congratulations!Bob ------------------
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jaysoffian
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posted Oct-10-2005 08:10 PM
Bob,How's the running going? I had to take a whole week off due to my AT issues. I ended up bagging a 20 miler 2 miles in. The good news is that after a week off things felt okay and last week I was able to complete a 5, 10, and 24 miler w/o any pain. I did the 24 on my treadmill on Sat if you can believe that*. I now begin my taper for the marathon on Oct 30. With a little luck I think I'll arrive at race day injury free. Just read the race reports from Chicago and I'm pretty psyched. I'll lay down my goal times here for my fellow Raleigh runners: Ultimate goal: < 3:40:00
Happy goal: < 3:50:00
Acceptable goal: < 4:00:00 I'm still not sure if I'll be running the Inside Out Half/10K. My plan calls for 8 that day but I'm afraid if I register for the 10K I'll run faster than I should. I do plan to run the Old Reliable though. Hopefully I'll see some of you there. * - 24 on a treadmill is a long way, but I watched "Four Minutes" (seemed well done, I enjoyed it) and some college football so it wasn't too bad. :-) j.
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Gottagetfaster
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posted Oct-11-2005 12:20 PM
Jay,I am impressed with your discipline. I get bored and very distracted on the TM and have a very hard time getting in more that 10 or so miles. I think the mental toughness it takes to run 24 on the TM will serve you well at MCM. Good luck. ------------------
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Oct-11-2005 03:51 PM
Jay, glad to see you have recovered and on your way to a PR. Nexium has temporarily solved my stomach issue--still don't know what is happening. My training is back on course for the Inside/outside 1/2 marathon in Cary (I have officially signed up). Ran 15 miles in Umstead Sunday. Did OK, but couldn't get my 1/2 marathon speed for three miles like the training requested. Settled for marathon pace for three miles. Ten miles Sunday, but I have decided to do this on the American Tobacco Trail. I'm going to run the 7.4 mile loop in Umstead Thursday at 1/2 marathon pace for five miles. The humidity is unacceptable for this time of year. So I am looking forward to getting some lows in the fifties and forties. If race conditions have temperatures and dew points in the fifties or lower, I think I can meet or exceed my goal of 1:48. Here is a race report from Steve of Durham running the Chicago marathon:
http://www.coolrunning.com/forums/Forum13/HTML/004395.shtml Bob [This message has been edited by RunBobaluRun (edited Oct-11-2005).]
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Gottagetfaster
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posted Oct-11-2005 04:07 PM
Bob,You are a tougher runner than I if you run your marathon or half-marathon pace run in Umstead. I cheat an look for fairly flat areas to run these type of runs and I have yet to find a flat area in Umstead. If you can run at your marathon or half-marathon pace inside of Umstead, it will be a breeze to run that same pace on a flater course. I hope your stomach issues stay resolved. ------------------
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Gottagetfaster
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posted Oct-11-2005 04:09 PM
Bob,You are a tougher runner than I if you run your marathon or half-marathon pace run in Umstead. I cheat an look for fairly flat areas to run these type of runs and I have yet to find a flat area in Umstead. If you can run at your marathon or half-marathon pace inside of Umstead, it will be a breeze to run that same pace on a flater course. I hope your stomach issues stay resolved. ------------------
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Gottagetfaster
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posted Oct-11-2005 04:11 PM
Bob,You are a tougher runner than I if you run your marathon or half-marathon pace run in Umstead. I cheat an look for fairly flat areas to run these type of runs and I have yet to find a flat area in Umstead. If you can run at your marathon or half-marathon pace inside of Umstead, it will be a breeze to run that same pace on a flater course. I hope your stomach issues stay resolved. ------------------
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Oct-12-2005 10:37 AM
I have had trouble maintaining 1/2 marathon pace on the trails because my legs are tired from previous training, so it will be difficult tomorrow. The problem with Umstead is there are no mile markers. I know the approximate length of the trails, so I have a gage of the pace when I reach the end of a trail. What I do is use my heart monitor to give me the best indication of effort. So tomorrow, I will try to maintain a 165 heart rate average for six miles--higher going up hill and lower going down. 165 being my heart rate at an effort close to 1/2 marathon pace.Bob
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Gottagetfaster
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posted Oct-12-2005 10:47 AM
Bob,Maintaining a constant effort level makes a lot of sense for a hilly course. I am hoping to try the same thing for the upcoming 1/2 but that means that I end up running very fast down hill and very slow up hill. I am pretty sure it has something to do with weighing 180 or so. My wife gave me a GPS watch a couple of Christmases ago and I use that in Umstead. It works pretty well during the summer and very well in the winter when the leaves are off of the tree. Without it, I would also have to rely on the total distance of the various routes. ------------------
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Oct-12-2005 02:51 PM
Thinking about a GPS watch myself. What brand do you have?They tell you to keep your effort the same for hill work, but for large steep hills I have no choice but to put in more effort just not to walk. I have estimated that Umstead bridle trails cost me about a minute/mile more than running on less hilly pavement. The flat American Tobacco Trail cost me about 30 seconds/mile more. Bob
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Gottagetfaster
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posted Oct-12-2005 04:48 PM
I have the initial version of the Timex GPS watch. The only thing that I do not like about this versionis that you have to manually hit the split button. I understand that the later version automatically record your splits. I also had to buy the more expensive rechargeable batteries because the GPS kept losing its signal with the basic AAA batteries. ------------------
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srogan
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posted Oct-12-2005 08:31 PM
I wonder if different batteries would help with the GPS watch my husband has. I'm not sure what brand/model it is but he picked it out a year or two ago and I bought it for him as a gift. But we haven't had great luck with it. I really thought this was a good time of year for me to start running, being that I'm a total wimp. Why won't it cool down and knock off the humidity? I'm ready for Fall here in Raleigh!
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Oct-13-2005 12:09 PM
Great run in Umstead this morning. 60 degrees and 54 dew point (this might be the lowest dew point we have had since the end of spring). I was able to keep my 1/2 marathon effort for 5.5 miles of the 7.3 loop as planned. Strange that I saw only one runner stretching at the beginning of the run and no other runners!? Did see six people biking. What a great park, but strange it doesn't get used very much during the week.Last hard run before the 1/2 race October 23rd. Gotagetfaster, are you going to enter this race? I figure it could be a good training run before Richmond. Bob
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Gottagetfaster
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posted Oct-13-2005 02:13 PM
Bob,I have signed up for the Inside Out 1/2 and hope to use it to gauge my fitness. Getting the more expensive AAA rechargeable batteries really helped my GPS watch find and hold the signal. ------------------
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runramy
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posted Oct-13-2005 02:23 PM
So what are some of the distances on the trails? My normal run is to start at the parking lot at the Harrison entrance. I just run on the road and enter at the second entrance (not the one going to the private camp area). A friend told me it's about 3 miles to the top of Graveyard Hill (so we run down the big hill and turn left on the Reedy Creek Trail), and about 3.5 miles to the water fountain. He said it's 4 miles from the parking lot to the lookout at the airport. My time says that's about accurate.This weekend I'll be doing my training runs in Winston. My training has been very uninspired this fall. I feel tired all the time, and when it's dark in the morning, I just don't want to get up and go out. I'm willing to run more at night, but that doesn't always work out. Now I'm starting to get a little worried about losing fitness before the Mistletoe Half instead of building up my training for a PR.
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Gottagetfaster
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posted Oct-13-2005 03:29 PM
Oops. I will now NOT be running the Inside Out 1/2. A family conflict has popped up. Oh well. Bob, have fun and let me know how you do. ------------------
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jaysoffian
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posted Oct-13-2005 09:54 PM
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So what are some of the distances on the trails? .
http://umsteadcoalition.org/trailmap.htm I'd recommend printing out the large map: http://umsteadcoalition.org/graphics/newmap.jpg On an unrelated note, I apparently injured my foot on my Sat long run. I didn't notice any pain till the next day, but it's been hurting all week preventing me from running. Looks like I may need to see the podiatrist after all. And just when the achilles tendon feels fine... Basically I have pain on my left foot just above my arch that only appears when I dorsiflex my foot. I've looked up all the foot injuries I can find and the best I can come up with is anterior tibial tendinitis, although the location of the pain is atypical for ATT. I also considered a tarsal navicular stress fracture because of the location of the pain, but the pain doesn't appear under the "provocative maneuvers" for diagnosing that condition. None of the other foot injuries I found discussed on the Internet fit the bill. With only a little over two weeks till the Cape Cod Marathon, this is a real bummer. In retrospect, my training base was probably not sufficient for the marathon training plan I used. j.
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Oct-14-2005 04:43 PM
Jay, very sorry to hear about your injury. I hope it goes away before the marathon. You do have a taper for two weeks, so if you miss your training it shouldn't matter much.Jay what was the training program you were following? Bob
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jaysoffian
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posted Oct-14-2005 06:35 PM
Three weeks no running could amount to 5-10% of detraining I would guess, and based on some of what I have read. Foot is feeling much better today, so we'll see.I was following the Hal Higdon Advanced I. I started the plan at the end of June. Previous marathon was end of Jan. In between I ran sporadically, 15-20 miles a week probably, though I think I was running at least 20 week for the 4 weeks before I started the plan. I didn't start my running log till the beginning of June, so I don't recall exactly... This is the first plan I've followed though with speed/hill work. It was probably dumb of me to do 24 on Sat. Plan only called for 20, and I had missed the 20 two weeks earlier. Also, that week I'd only run 5 and 10 before I did the 24. I had felt fine my previous long though (which I also extended from 20 to 21.5) so I guess I got cocky. j.
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Oct-16-2005 04:25 PM
Jay, try some cross training to keep you in shape. Can you bike, row or swim? I think you can work to avoid most of the loss of fitness.Bob
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