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Gottagetfaster
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 posted Aug-23-2005 11:24 AM
  
So that explains why I had a horrible run on Saturday!------------------
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runramy
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posted Aug-23-2005 03:33 PM
Oh geez, you sound like the weatherman on Fox. He was really excited about the dewpoint the other day. Unfortunately, I think it's one of those things like time zones that I will never be able to get, no matter how hard I try. It's good to have a rule of thumb to go by, though, thanks for that tip!
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Aug-23-2005 05:07 PM
One of the things I've learned to watch for is the overnight lows. Dew point in the summer mornings is at or two degrees less than the overnight temperature prediction. An overnight low of 69 is good since the dew point typically will not rise above 69 in the morning--unless the prediction for the low is wrong then all bets are off. An overnight low of 72 to 74 is a disaster waiting to happen for the morning run.Bob
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krunrunrunp
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posted Aug-24-2005 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by Gottagetfaster:
I live in the same arean and run at about the same time - but not usually at your pace. My fartlek pace tends to be closer to 8:00 with my tempo pace being closer to 7:00 and my recovery pace closer to 8:30 or 9:00. So, I am thinking that you are a bit too fast for me (that sounds better than I am too slow!)Where do you run your daily runs? I tend to run a lot along Creedmoor Rd - which is not too bad at that time of the day.
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krunrunrunp
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posted Aug-24-2005 09:15 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gottagetfaster:
[B] I live in the same arean and run at about the same time - but not usually at your pace. My fartlek pace tends to be closer to 8:00 with my tempo pace being closer to 7:00 and my recovery pace closer to 8:30 or 9:00. So, I am thinking that you are a bit too fast for me (that sounds better than I am too slow!)Where do you run your daily runs? I tend to run a lot along Creedmoor Rd - which is not too bad at that time of the day. Sorry for taking so long to get back about meeting up to run. I start school tomorrow with students, so maybe next week we can meet up for a run! I don't mind going a little slower...just meeting someone will help met get out of bed that early!! I'll get back to you in a few days!
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Aug-26-2005 10:54 AM
Umstead 5k race last night was great. The lower humidity really made for good racing conditions. Met Jay again, and I was able to have two of my partners from work run in the race. Here is my report:
http://www.coolrunning.com/forums/Forum13/HTML/003945.shtmlWell today feels even better, but this is my running day off. See you out in Umstead Sunday morning. Bob P.S. Jay looks like the average dew point in Virgina Beach for labor day weekend is 73. Best of luck on your race, and please let us know how you did. ------------------
There will come a point in the race, when you alone will need to decide. You will need to make a choice. Do you really want it? You will need to decide."
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lesil22
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posted Aug-27-2005 03:40 PM
hey everyone. i just moved to raleigh from MI. in MI i lived out on dirt roads so am getting used to "city" running. any advice for the winter when it is dark when you run. right now i have been running around the lakes. what does everyone do when they run after work and it is dark? Leslie
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swatkins
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posted Aug-27-2005 03:59 PM
I wear a reflective vest but try to avoid running at night as I have taken a couple of bad spills due to tree limbs or uneven pavement. And y'all KNOW I stay away from the lakes!
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Aug-28-2005 10:17 AM
Jay, I hope your Achilles tendon will be OK for the race. I would like to see you break 1:45! But do what is necessary to protect yourself.Even though the dew point was only 69 this morning, I felt pretty bad running a slow 11+ miles in Umstead. Heaven forbid what a 1/2 marathon at 73 dew point would do to me. Bob ------------------
There will come a point in the race, when you alone will need to decide. You will need to make a choice. Do you really want it? You will need to decide."
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swatkins
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posted Aug-28-2005 11:45 AM
Hey, does anyone know a cardiologist in the Raleigh area who is knowledgeable about athletes? I have recently had issues with my heart rate getting way too high way too fast (I know, I have had many issues this year, kind of like running the gauntlet). When it should be in the 128-136 range it's like 168-176. So I keep having to stop and walk until it slows down. I went to see a cardiologist who did a stress test on me, which I passed with flying colors. He proceeded to tell me I am an anxious person and need to talk to someone about my "running problem" because marathoning is "abnormal". He even tapped his index finger to his temple when he spoke to me. Well, the fact I am an anxious person wasn't exactly a news flash to me, it's part of the reason I run. And he never answered my basic question, which is why my heart rate is going so high. He is used to dealing with sick people looked at me from an illness perspective. I need to see someone who understands exercise physiology.Sorry for the long rant.
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jaysoffian
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posted Aug-28-2005 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by RunBobaluRun:
Jay, I hope your Achilles tendon will be OK for the race. I would like to see you break 1:45! But do what is necessary to protect yourself.Even though the dew point was only 69 this morning, I felt pretty bad running the a slow 11+ miles in Umstead. Heaven forbid what a 1/2 marathon at 73 dew point would do to me.
I know discretion is the better part of valor and I probably shouldn't have run today since my Achilles was sore even when I woke up... but I got on my treadmill and did 20 miles anyway. I watched the last half of Surviving Christmas and all of Man on Fire. Two terrible movies, but they got me through the run. (No preseason NFL games on Sunday? What's that about?) I decided on the treadmill last night when I saw that the overnight dew point was above 70. Yuck. Anyway, having worked my stubborness out of me, I'm going to take all week off from running and swim instead for exercise. I'll stretch, ice and use ibuprofen and see how I feel at the end of the week, maybe putting in a short run on Friday. If I have any soreness at all, I'll probably convert the RnR from Rock&Roll to Rest&Relexation and just enjoy the weekend at the VA beach with my family instead. I'm sure there is plenty to else to do there besides run for 13.1 miles. FWIW, I first felt pain in my Achilles about a month back while doing a tempo on a Tuesday after doing a Sunday long run in Umstead (which was the same week I did the 12k on Thursday with the NC runners club also in Umstead). The combination of the hills and speed workouts has apparently been too much. I've been on Higdon's advanced plan but I think I may back off from 6 days a week to a Tue/Thu/Sun schedule using Tue for a mid-distance marathon pace run, Thu for speed workouts (I'll back off the pace on those a bit though since I think I've been a bit aggressive) and Sun for long runs (I'll probably do my remaning long runs at 20/22/24 instead of just the three 20s which Higdon calls for). The rest of the days I'll swim and hopefully that gets my through combined with enough stretching, ice, and ibuprofen. Sigh. j. [This message has been edited by jaysoffian (edited Aug-28-2005).]
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Aug-29-2005 11:42 AM
I had chest pains during some long runs preparing for the Umstead marathon in March. The pains felt like they were from the chest muscles and not the heart. I received a recommendation from a co-worker about Cary Cardiology:
http://www.carycardiology.com/I went there and they treated me very well. Because I had chest pains, I got a treadmill test that afternoon. Nothing was found. It was determined that a loss of electrolytes possibly was to blame--causing muscle cramps in the chest area. They never recommended I not run the race. They seemed to understand my concerns as a runner. Bob [This message has been edited by RunBobaluRun (edited Aug-29-2005).]
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runramy
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posted Aug-29-2005 01:00 PM
Hey Jay - I'm doing the RNR too! I'm SO excited about it. I need to calm down or I won't sleep well this week.  But, I've had a better training summer than any of the past 5 years, so I fully expect to PR.That sounds terrible about your achilles, though. Be careful. It sounds like you're training for a marathon and not just the RNR. Good luck with that. Swatkins - I know nothing about that, but wanted to comment on the guy who said you were crazy to run so far. He's crazy! Evaluate the part about dealing with anxiety (are you having panic attacks?), and throw the part out about not marathoning. My two cents for today.
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runramy
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posted Aug-29-2005 01:04 PM
Oh yeah, and for running at night - get one of those headlamps. My dad has one and it's very beneficial. Run on the sidewalk. Run with someone, and/or carry runner pepper spray. If you haven't read over the rest of this thread, don't run at places like Shelley Lake by yourself. If you have a dog, they're always a good running companion.
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paigupaigu
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posted Aug-29-2005 04:30 PM
Hey! I'm new to this forum and I'm glad to see so many runners in this area. I live in Durham but my dear BF lives in Raleigh, conveniently nearby Lynn Lake (Lake Lynn?) park, where there is a lovely 2 mile loop (w/mile markers) around the lake. For variation, sadly enough, I just follow the local sidewalks wherever they lead to....Oh yeah, in Durham the Tobacco Trail is great (just no lights so not the best early AM/late night path).
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cooldad
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posted Aug-30-2005 10:47 AM
Leslie - First, welcome to NC, you'll find winter running much more tolerable than in MI (coldest run I ever did was an evening in Detroit, wind-chill of -13). Summers however are the flip side of the coin, I'm sure you have discovered. As to running at night, I would suggest finding a reasonable loop through your neighborhood that has decent street lighting. Aim to find streets with not too much traffic so you can run on the road, they tend to have less stuff to trip over than the sidewalks. The head-light sounds like a viable option as well, though I've never bothered. If you are looking for trails there are a fair number of them around, between the greenways, Umstead and the American Tobacco Trail (only in NC could there be connection between fitness and tobacco) to name a few. Good luck.
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Aug-30-2005 03:09 PM
swatkins, just to give you an idea of my heart rate during running:sitting: 52-56
Standing: 80+
Walking: 110+
Biking: 120+
Running slow: 140
Running moderate: 160+
Running fast: 180+
Maximum heart rate: 195 I have noted that my heart rate is 10-20 beats higher in the heat than in the cool--e.g. running slow to moderately today I should have had a heart rate around 150-155 after my third mile, but had a rate of about 170. Gottagetfaster, how is your training going? Hope the humidity has not slowed you down. Bob
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swatkins
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posted Aug-30-2005 04:59 PM
I am in the peak of training for my 6th marathon. Normally at this point in my training cycle my resting heart rate is between 44-48. Currently it's about 76 bpm. During my warm up my heart rate is 128-136, and now it's about 168 which is what is really concerning me as my max heart rate is about 177. And it was like July 7th I was OK and July 8 I wasn't. I went to see my internist yesterday and he agrees it's probably the Topamax that is the issue so I have started tapering off of that. If that doesn't resolve the issue I'm going to have to wear a Holter monitor which really makes more sense to me than the stress test anyway. He also states that anxiety is really irrelevant because if I was anxious on July 8 I was probably anxious on July 7 as well.BTW, my internist is married to a triathlete 
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jaysoffian
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posted Aug-30-2005 08:52 PM
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Hey Jay - I'm doing the RNR too! I'm SO excited about it. I need to calm down or I won't sleep well this week. But, I've had a better training summer than any of the past 5 years, so I fully expect to PR.
My 1/2 marathon PR was in Jan this year and was 1:48. I want to do the RNR in 1:45 if the weather and my achilles allow. Achilles felt fine last two days. I did nothing yesterday and put in a 40 minute swim tonight. Plan is to swim rest of week, maybe a light 6 mile run on Thu. BTW, I'm in corral 5 and my bib 5763 in case you want to say hi (and can find me, and remember the #...). :-) I just saw they'll have a 1:45 pace team ... don't think I'll need one for a 1/2 marathon but it can't hurt. Always fun to run with a group of folks an entire race. Anyway, good luck with the race. Oh, and yeah, I'm training for the cape cod marathon at the end of Oct. j.
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Gottagetfaster
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posted Aug-31-2005 09:12 AM
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I am in the peak of training for my 6th marathon. Normally at this point in my training cycle my resting heart rate is between 44-48. Currently it's about 76 bpm. During my warm up my heart rate is 128-136, and now it's about 168 which is what is really concerning me as my max heart rate is about 177. And it was like July 7th I was OK and July 8 I wasn't. I went to see my internist yesterday and he agrees it's probably the Topamax that is the issue so I have started tapering off of that. If that doesn't resolve the issue I'm going to have to wear a Holter monitor which really makes more sense to me than the stress test anyway. He also states that anxiety is really irrelevant because if I was anxious on July 8 I was probably anxious on July 7 as well.BTW, my internist is married to a triathlete
That sure does not sound like a stress or anxiety induced problem. Hopefully, tapering off of the Topamax will be the cure. Good luck and be careful. ------------------
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runramy
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posted Aug-31-2005 10:35 AM
Good for you for having an athlete-sensitive doctor. I have found that is vitally important. I have tendonitis in my ankles right now, and plan to take some time off running to heal them after the RNR. I was in to see my doctor about something else and she asked about it. To head her off at the pass, I told her something along the lines of, "I know that this is not what I should do, but I'm going to do it anyway." She said OK.I am completely freaking out about the race now, overanalyzing everything. I need to calm down and remember that I'm in much better shape than I've ever run this race before and I've been training hard. That is so hard to convince myself of, however! Jay - How did you pick Cape Cod? I'm looking for a May marathon, but don't like many of the options.
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RunBobaluRun
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posted Aug-31-2005 02:18 PM
RnR runners you have stuck GOLD!!Dew point is forecasted to be 65 Sunday morning. Normally the dew point is 73. This will be great weather! I hope this forecast is accurate. Good luck to all the Triangle runners in the RnR. Bob
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runramy
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posted Aug-31-2005 03:25 PM
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RnR runners you have stuck GOLD!!Dew point is forecasted to be 65 Sunday morning. Normally the dew point is 73. This will be great weather! I hope this forecast is accurate. Good luck to all the Triangle runners in the RnR. Bob
SWEET!! This helps with my panicked overthinking! Thanks for passing the news along!
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jaysoffian
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posted Aug-31-2005 06:43 PM
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Jay - How did you pick Cape Cod? I'm looking for a May marathon, but don't like many of the options.
Well... my plan was to register for the NYC. But I missed the deadline. My 2nd choice, the Marine Corps, had filled. The Chicago is in early Oct which wasn't enough time for my training schedule. So I just started looking at other races on the east coast around late oct/early november and I came across Cape Cod. Looked like a fun race, never been to CC, so that's how I picked it. Scientific, eh? At some point I do want to run the big races (Marine Corps, NYC, Chicago, and ultimately Boston) as I really feed off the crowd support. This will be my third marathon. The other two were the California International Marathon (Sacramento) which I highly recommend and the Miami Marathon, which would make a fine 1/2 marathon but I don't recommend the marathon course. You mention May marathons. The Avenue of the Giants is supposed to be very pretty, though there is no crowd support and it's also two out-and-backs, so if you find out-and-backs discouraging (I do...) it wouldn't be a good choice. The Cincinatti Flying Pig is supposed to be good too... j.
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swatkins
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posted Aug-31-2005 09:38 PM
I ran Cape Cod a few years back and considering the size of the race, I thought the crowd support was pretty good. Just remember it's hillier the second half. It was so beautiful there and the leaves were at their peak of color...
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